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Arctic Sea Ice Near To Normal Levels

November 1, 2014
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By Paul Homewood 

 

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http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/index.html

 

Two pictures show how quickly Arctic sea ice has recovered since September.

 

JAXA also show that extent is almost back to 2002 levels.

 

 

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http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent_v2_prev.htm

 

 

I wonder what they’ll blame cold/mild/wet/dry/snowy/normal winter weather on this year?

16 Comments
  1. Don permalink
    November 1, 2014 6:14 pm

    “I wonder what they’ll blame cold/mild/wet/dry/snowy/normal winter weather on this year?”

    The missing heat.

  2. November 1, 2014 6:25 pm

    Well,
    don’t be too happy about it
    It means the big freeze is coming, for sure. In a bit more than two decades from now the whole arctic will be back as it was in 1950…..
    On the climate scale we are now in 1925 or 1926
    about 7 years away from major drought periods above the [40] latitude, especially in the America’s
    [high food inflation in Germany brought Hitler to power]
    I find that as we are moving back, up, from the deep end of the 88 year sine wave, there will be standstill in the change of the speed of cooling, neither accelerating nor decelerating, on the bottom of the wave; therefore naturally, there will also be a lull in pressure difference at that > [40 latitude], where the Dust Bowl drought took place, meaning: less weather (read: rain). According to my calculations, this will start around 2020 or 2021…..i.e. 1927=2016 (projected, by myself and the planets…)> add 5 years and we are in 2021.

    Danger from global cooling is documented and provable. It looks we have only ca. 7 “fat” years left……

    WHAT MUST WE DO?

    We urgently need to develop and encourage more agriculture at lower latitudes, like in Africa and/or South America. This is where we can expect to find warmth and more rain during a global cooling period.
    We need to warn the farmers living at the higher latitudes (>40) who already suffered poor crops due to the droughts that things are not going to get better there for the next few decades. It will only get worse as time goes by.
    We also have to provide more protection against more precipitation at certain places of lower latitudes (FLOODS!), <[30] latitude, especially around the equator.

    • November 1, 2014 7:44 pm

      Can’t agree more, Henry!

      In 1974, the White House was so concerned by global cooling, they set up a special Sub-Committee on Climate Change.

      I have the original letters and minutes here. Well worth a read.

      Feds Alarmed By Global Cooling in 1974

    • John F. Hultquist permalink
      November 2, 2014 6:12 am

      I expect you will have a difficult time convincing farmers in the USA and adjacent Canada that there has been, is, or will be soon any serious threat from long term climate change. They live and breathe weather and this year has been good. Prices move opposite to production. There are record crops from apples to zucchini and prices have gone down. Here is a chart for wheat:
      http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=wheat
      In the URL where it says wheat, replace with corn; hit enter.

      With respect to North American growing regions the term “robust” comes to mind. By that I mean things are good somewhere. Growers understand this. It gives them confidence to borrow and invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in land and equipment.

  3. November 1, 2014 8:34 pm

    @paul
    Interesting read! Thanks.
    it really was very cold in 1940’s….Snowfall in western Europe in the winter 41-42 was the highest on record. I still have a video on that.

    The Dust Bowl drought 1932-1939 was one of the worst environmental disasters of the Twentieth Century anywhere in the world. Three million people left their farms on the Great Plains during the drought and half a million migrated to other states, almost all to the West. http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/res/div/ocp/drought/dust_storms.shtml

    Similar drought conditions repeated itself in the fifties, if I remember correctly. Hence, the report indicating that some climate change is good…..too, looking at crop results. However from the seventies onward earth was already warming up again.

    One can propose that we donot have to worry much,
    seeing that we all made it through that time….1930-1950

    However, how many people were we then on earth compared to now?
    What chaos will happen if there is a big scarcity of food?

    I am afraid that the reality is that if hunger stares you in the face at the front door, civility is out by the back door….

  4. David permalink
    November 1, 2014 8:49 pm

    Not sure what is meant by ‘normal’ here.

    According to that JAXA data October 2014 had the 6th lowest average October extent on record. It’s about 1.3 million km^2 lower than the 1981-2010 average extent for October and about 1.0 m km^2 below the 2002 October average.

    Is that really ‘normal’?

    • David permalink
      November 1, 2014 9:01 pm

      Also, just noticed that the top chart shows a monthly average (September 2014), whereas the bottom one shows a daily average (31 Oct 2014).

      We can’t meaningfully compare the two this way. We’re comparing the average of the ‘month’ with lowest extent with the average of the last ‘day’ in October! Of course its going to look much higher.

      When the October average is produced by NSIDC it will look rather different to the extent on 31st October. I’d guess it will once again be in the 6 lowest average extents on record for October.

      • November 1, 2014 9:59 pm

        The Sep av is pretty close to to the Sep 30 figure if you had bothered to check

    • November 1, 2014 10:35 pm

      Are you thick or something? Do you have trouble reading maps?

      • rah permalink
        November 2, 2014 1:50 am

        It’s called denial.

  5. tom0mason permalink
    November 2, 2014 2:51 am

    Yes, this being officially the hottest year eva!!! The ice will recover only half as fast as it should. Also of note is that Catatrophic Climate Change™ has caused the weather to be moderately more breezy than usual, at times.

  6. John F. Hultquist permalink
    November 2, 2014 6:31 am

    I can never remember which of the following overrides the other: a. sea ice in the polar regions acts as an insulator and keeps heat from escaping, or b. sea ice increases albedo and keeps solar radiation from entering.
    Anyway, there is lots of sea ice. Arctic – sun going down. Antarctic – sun coming up. Ice all over both places.

    • November 2, 2014 2:42 pm

      John, I would say b) overrides a), mostly, seeing that an ice age is triggered by more ice causing more deflection of radiation.
      There already have been proposals, if we see more ice happening around us, to spray the ice with carbon dust(!!!!) to prevent humanity falling in an ice age.
      I am thinking that this could also be a good defense if we see too much cooling coming up, as will become clear in the next few decades.
      To those actively involved in trying to suppress the temperature results as they are available on-line from official sources, I say: Let fools stay fools if they want to be. Fiddling with the data they can, to save their jobs, but people still having to shove snow in late spring, will soon begin to doubt the data…Check the worry in my eyes when they censor me. Under normal circumstances I would have let things rest there and just be happy to know the truth for myself. Indeed, I let things lie a bit. However, chances are that humanity will fall in the pit of global cooling and later me blaming myself for not having done enough to try to safeguard food production for 7 billion people and counting.

  7. November 2, 2014 10:00 am

    john says
    I expect you will have a difficult time convincing farmers in the USA and adjacent Canada that there has been, is, or will be soon any serious threat from long term climate change. They live and breathe weather and this year has been good. Prices move opposite to production. There are record crops from apples to zucchini and prices have gone down.

    henry says
    yes, perhaps it is difficult for people to understand that good times are not going to last.
    In fact, from now onward, I am predicting 7 years of [great] abundance.
    Such a prediction is not unprecedented in history. Like I said, I feel a bit like the Joseph of the bible. He was able to correctly predict 7 years of abundance and 7 years of famine.
    He probably observed the direction of the winds during droughts (Gen. 41:23&27) and may have had some access to the records of the flooding of the Nile (the Egyptians were good at keeping an eye on this).
    I wish there was some way of stockpiling food for the 7 years when the cold spell will hit the hardest [from 2021-2022], but with 7 billion and counting I am thinking this is impossible. We must rather use more arable land available at the lower latitudes (tropics), even if we have to cut the forests there down.

    Funny, that after my investigations,

    1) I stopped believing in AGW and GW.
    2) I found that the climate is changing,i.e. it is globally cooling (GC).

    Click to access henryspooltableNEWc.pdf

    3) I determined the reasons why the climate is changing
    4) Now I am worried about GC and what it will do to the food production.

    I don’t want to sound alarmist, but now I cannot help myself about being just that….
    Perhaps I cannot believe that people [“climate scientists”] cannot pick up what is going on, what is so obvious to me.

  8. November 2, 2014 12:52 pm

    Thanks, Paul, though I hate the cold and the ice.
    The new satellite “Shizuku” (GCOM-W1) that carries AMSR2 (the successor of AMSR-E) has been launched successfully on May 18, 2012. It shows a similar icy story,
    See (University of Bremen, Germany):

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