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Which Facts Does Piers Not Understand?

December 11, 2012

By Paul Homewood


Piers Morgan Show


At the end of last week’s debate on Piers Morgan’s show between Marc Morano and Bill Nye, Morgan concluded by saying to Morano

OK. Look, I respect that you have views. I don’t think they’re facts and there are many scientists who would take issue with you about the use of the word facts.

So what were these facts that Morgan seemed to have trouble believing?


The NewsBusters website has a full transcription of the debate, and includes citations for most of the points Morano made, and is well worth reading.


But, to summarise, the points he made were as follows :-

  • There are quite literally hundreds of factors that influence global temperature, everything from tilt of the earth’s axis to ocean cycles to water vapour, methane, solar system, the sun, cloud feedback, and volcanic dust.
  • Peer-reviewed studies show the Medieval and Roman warming periods as warm or warmer than today, and evidence shows these were world wide phenomena.
  • We’ve had 16 years with no warming.
  • In the geological past, there have been warmer times when there was less CO2 than now, and colder periods when there was more.
  • The number of big tornadoes has declined since the 1950’s.
  • We’ve gone the longest period without a major hurricane hitting the US since 1900, and there are no unusual trends in hurricanes.
  • US droughts not getting worse.
  • US floods not getting worse.
  • Sea levels have been rising since the ice age, and there is no evidence of acceleration.


There is in fact very little disagreement amongst scientists about any of these issues, although there will be debate about the detail and nuances. There are possibly only two issues where there could be controversy.

1) There is clearly a debate about whether the MWP and RWP were global, or just limited to Europe, as Nye claims. However, even Michael Mann would not be able to deny that there are a host of serious studies which contradict the latter, and which cannot simply be swept under the carpet.

2) The question of whether sea level rise is accelerating. Uncertainty still exists about the exact measurements, but the worst case scenario suggests only an increase from 8 inches per century to 11 inches.

If Morgan genuinely does not believe these are facts, it really does prove just how brainwashed some people, who are otherwise intelligent individuals, have become.


So what did the “Science Guy” have to say?

Let’s finish by looking what Bill Nye contributed to the discussion. He appeared to be extremely badly prepared, with little understanding of the subject. But his main points were :-

  • The MWP and RWP were just in Europe. [Apparently he has not heard of Greenland.]
  • CO2 emissions are rising.
  • The world’s population is rising.
  • It’s the rate of CO2 increase that is the problem, not the actual level.[Not heard of that one before!]
  • This is the hottest two decades in recorded history.
  • Accusing Morano of stating the UN says it’s not the hottest 20 years.[ Where on earth does he get this from?]
  • Tens of millions will try to move north out of South East Asia.
  • In reply to Morano’s claim that Kyoto will make next to no difference to global temperatures, Nye responds “We’re not talking about the temperature.”

All in all, a rather rambling performance that showed he had very little understanding of the topic.

  1. TinyCO2 permalink
    December 11, 2012 8:05 pm

    Who is there to put him right other than rushed interviews like the one with Morano? You could interview a 100 people and I doubt any of them could tell you about the inconvenient facts that main stream climate science is very quiet about. How many would put any faith in climate predictions if they knew half of what sceptics have uncovered? It’s not even the disputed stuff that would shock.

    Take away the key pillars of climate hysteria and what have they got?

    Record temperatures – only since we’ve been measuring them, before that – nope.
    Weird weather – nope.
    Models model reality – nope.
    Climate scientists agree – on what exactly?
    Solutions work – nope.
    All countries agree – nope, nope, nope.

    No media outlet is interested in committing the sin of downplaying a crisis.

    Ironically it may be the proxy experts who are the first to break ranks. They know that the MWP and earlier warm periods are key to climate hysteria. Will they speak up or let Mann’s hockey stick represent the best that their field has to offer history. Will they issue a consensus statement and put modern temps into perspective?

  2. Dave N permalink
    December 11, 2012 10:47 pm

    Bill Nye’s comments sound like a propaganda journalist regurgitating. Main points (I’ve disregarded those that are completely insane ramblings):

    CO2 levels rising – so what? They’ve been at much higher levels before with much colder temperatures.

    This is the two hottest decades in recorded history – recorded history includes not even a nanosecond of Earth’s climatic history; your argument is invalid.

    “We’re not talking about the temperature” – presumably alarmists have completely abandoned the idea of runaway warming, and will now blame anything including an ice age on fossil fuel use; mark my words.

  3. December 13, 2012 1:30 pm

    Funniest line in the whole video is about 7:30-7:32 while Mr Morano is talking about the imorality and economic costs, Mr. Nye says ‘CO2 is only part of it.’ To which I have to ask “WTF? global warmers??”

  4. Brian H permalink
    December 15, 2012 4:30 am

    A historian with no knowledge whatsoever of the science might ask, devastatingly, why the warmest periods have been the most propitious for mankind, and why would we want to avoid a repeat.

    “And answer came there none.”

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