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75% Want To Pay Twice As Much For Energy

March 16, 2014

By Paul Homewood


Bishop Hill noted the other day that an IPSOS – MORI opinion poll (Page 31,) recently released, suggests that offshore wind farms are strongly supported.

75% support their development in the UK, and 58% believe they will have a positive effect on the economy.

Unsurprisingly, the support is even higher amongst 16-24 year olds, with numbers of 85% and 70% respectively.


I wonder whether the numbers would have been the same, if the interviewees had been told just how much more offshore wind would cost them?


A reminder of the Strike Prices that will be guaranteed for wind farm operators for the first 15 years of their operation, and all inflation indexed.





Meanwhile, the current wholesale price for electricity is £49.78/MWh. Given that the above Strike Prices are based on 2012 prices, they will already have increased by the rate of the last two years’ inflation, around 5%. Therefore, any offshore wind farms commissioned this year will receive about £162/MWh at the outset, a subsidy of more then £112/MWh.


The current retail price of electricity is around £110/MWh (based on my bills, anyway!), so if all power was sourced from offshore wind farms, everybody’s bill would effectively double.

How this can be regarded as a good thing, and positive for the economy, is a mystery to me.



Before anybody suggests that energy prices will rise so fast that they quickly overtake the cost of offshore, take a look at the chart below. Prices have actually fallen over the last two years.



  1. March 16, 2014 5:05 pm

    Thank you very nice site!

  2. A C Osborn permalink
    March 16, 2014 5:47 pm

    Of course one of the main reasons for that (other than brainwashing at school/college) is that they probably do not pay any electricity bills themselves. Perhaps they ought to ask their Mums and Dads before answering the question.

  3. Brian H permalink
    March 16, 2014 7:02 pm

    Residential costs are only a fraction of the story. Commercial and industrial impact is even heavier.

    • Joe Public permalink
      March 16, 2014 10:00 pm

      Actually, apart from production/services which get exported, UK’s citizens pay for the increased power costs of industry & commerce too, in the form of higher commodity prices.

      Something the Green Party didn’t realise.

  4. Roger Dewhurst permalink
    March 16, 2014 7:05 pm

    Doubtless the support among 10 year olds would have been 95%

  5. March 16, 2014 7:14 pm

    They brainwash them at school. It’s like trying to de-program a Moonie.

  6. Paul permalink
    March 16, 2014 7:25 pm

    So many contradictions in terms of the answers given. I suspect many of the respondents got so cheesed off with it all they just ended up filling in random tick boxes.

  7. Joe Public permalink
    March 16, 2014 10:04 pm

    I disagree with your headline, Paul.

    I don’t believe anywhere near that percentage ‘want’ to pay more for their energy. I really believe the vast majority are blissfully ignorant of the relationship between subsidised ‘green’ policies, and power costs.

  8. Streetcred permalink
    March 16, 2014 10:17 pm

    Well, the demographic that wants higher prices has been identified … so I see the positives in this. Charge them more and let the rest of us get on with our lives 😉

  9. Herve permalink
    March 17, 2014 11:10 am

    The poll is purely dissinformational, propaganda from insane dishonest greenies. How long Democracy would tolerate this kind of disinformation for obvious political games?
    Democracy repects Mankind;
    Mankind shall in turn respect Democracy otherwise it becomes a very useful tool to bring facists in power, ref Hitler democratically elected in january 1933.

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