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Melting Arctic Ice Causes Hot/Cold Springs!

May 8, 2014

By Paul Homewood

 

More settled science!!

 

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jun/05/uk-hot-weather-arctic-ice-cap?guni=Article:in%20body%20link 

 

 

 

 

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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/mar/25/frozen-spring-arctic-sea-ice-loss

 

 

 

Apparently some people read the Guardian.

13 Comments
  1. May 8, 2014 4:55 pm

    They just make it up as they go along,
    No doubt this year’s relatively warm spring (in the UK) was caused by last year’s gain in the ice.
    Except they would have to admit to a recovery in the ice.

  2. May 8, 2014 5:20 pm

    Reblogged this on the WeatherAction Blog and commented:
    Such a shame for this ‘beautiful theory’ (predict what is happening now ad infinum into the future) that warm springs were also common place in the Little Ice Age.

  3. Don permalink
    May 8, 2014 5:40 pm

    Great find, posted the two articles on DTT dot com. They are so very confused, we need to find them a nice, quiet place, away from sharp objects.

  4. J Martin permalink
    May 8, 2014 6:31 pm

    In short, the staff at the Guardian probably couldn’t reliably tell you what time of day it is.

  5. tom0mason permalink
    May 8, 2014 8:21 pm

    In Praise of the Guardian.

    The Guardian has set itself a standard that may be difficult to maintain but I’m sure that they will soldier-on doggedly following orders. They are, after all, doing their best as they seek to enlighten and entertain without actually grasping the full meaning or intent of what they are doing. And failing to enlighten and rarely entertain.

    As their legacy of the past shows, they have never been found wanting when called on to make public pronouncements on any subject, particularly when fact, science, evidence and logic are removed from their dialog. It is indeed a rare gift.

    So finally I would like to give three cheers to the Guardian for the wit and low sarcasm employed in their articles of serious sophistry as they, like the rest of us, deserve better.

  6. May 9, 2014 9:29 am

    Isn’t the point that changes in the jet stream pattern as a result of climate change (of any sort) can lead to uncharacteristic weather at either end of the wet/dry, hot/cold spectrum. As a hypothesis it’s perfectly valid to link changes in the Arctic to extremes in the UK via a shift in the Jet Stream.

    • May 9, 2014 9:34 am

      There is no evidence that “climate change” is changing the “jet stream pattern” in the long-term”.

      We didn’t really know of the existence of the jet stream before WWII and any talk of the “normal” position of the jet stream is pure speculation.

    • May 9, 2014 9:54 am

      The interesting thing in the first article is this statement:

      Meteorologist Tim Woollings, of Reading University, said: “Climate models are starting to show some agreement that jet streams will shift slight closer to the poles in response to increases in greenhouse gases.”

      Such a trend could bring more settled, dry hot weather systems to Britain, though predictions are unclear. “There is still considerable disagreement between different models,” Woollings added. “The hot weather we had this year arose because the jet stream was deflected south. Last year, it occurred because the stream was deflected north. So it is still very difficult to predict what will happen.”

      And, of course, the jet stream has moved south again this winter. They clearly have no idea what causes this, and trying to link it to global warming and melting ice is just idle speculation.

      What is also clear is that such extremes have happened in the past, and were examples of weather, not “climate change”.

      • May 9, 2014 10:54 am

        Changes in position of the jet stream will cause certain weather to occur. The question is – are climate changes influencing the position of the jet stream and thus our weather. I don’t see this as idle speculation.

      • May 9, 2014 12:11 pm

        They first need to understand what natural factors influence the jet stream, and what has caused it to move around in the past. This they still don’t understand.

        To try to link everything to melting ice is doing the science backwards. Until they fully understand how the jet stream works, it is just idle speculation.

  7. May 9, 2014 11:08 am

    Elim (@ElimRosie) PERMALINK
    May 9, 2014 10:50 am
    “Nobody has mentioned ‘normal position’ ?”

    We are always being told about it on the BBC.

    Anyway I think it’s implied.

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