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Increasing Antarctic Ice A Worry For Research Stations

May 11, 2015
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By Paul Homewood 

 

h/t Sunshine Hours 

 

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http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/forecasting-sea-ice-to-save-scientists/story-e6frfku9-1227350248988

 

THE size and power of ships needed to break through Antarctica’s increasing sea ice levels is a worry for the global research community.

IN recent years countries including Australia have battled to reach their stations on the frozen continent, making resupply missions time consuming and expensive, Australian Antarctic Division spokesman Rod Wooding said.

"We’re noticing that the sea ice situation is becoming more difficult," he told reporters on Monday.

The sea ice through the Southern Ocean and around Australia’s Mawson Station usually breaks up for a couple of months a year allowing ships to enter the bay but that did not happen in 2013-14.

"We had to get fuel in by helicopter which is inadequate for the long-term sustainability of the station," Dr Wooding said.

"Other national programs have had similar problems: the French in particular, Japanese also."

The problem has been the main driver for a meeting of more than 50 international experts, convening in Hobart until Wednesday, to try and nut out a plan to accurately forecast sea ice levels.

Meteorologists along with ice and Antarctic experts will take part in a series of workshops, looking at trends in satellite imagery and the environment.

"One of the things that Antarctic programs will need to understand going forward is what sort of ice breaking capability we’re going to need to get through the ice in these areas," Dr Wooding said.

"Australia is currently in a tender process for a new ice breaker … and it’s important in understanding what sort of ice breaker we might need … to have a good understanding of likely sea ice conditions."

There is no single reason why sea ice levels are increasing but Hobart-based expert Tony Worby said it tends to gather around icebergs and wind patterns also play a part.

"We know sea ice extent is increasing, there was a record maximum in September 2014," Prof Worby said.

"It’s quite hard to forecast but whatever effort we put in to improving our ability to forecast sea ice will ultimately pay dividends in terms of savings for national programs."

 

Perhaps they should send for Professor Turkey and the rest of his ship of fools. They might be able to offer some hands on advice!

33 Comments
  1. May 11, 2015 6:56 pm

    I guess that’s bad news for ‘weedy things’.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27831958

  2. May 11, 2015 7:30 pm

    Paul, Antarctica has at least two main climatic regimes. The Peninsula and The Continent. The Peninsula is definitely warming – a change in ocean currents / atmospheric circulation. The Continent has not warmed since 1969. Its possible that the warmist propaganda of melting ice creating more sea ice rings true in part. The Peninsula is warming and likely has higher fresh water run off. But the rest is in a huge deep freeze.

    The Hunt For Global Warming: Antarctica
    http://euanmearns.com/?p=7840

  3. May 11, 2015 7:34 pm

    Thanks, Paul!

    It may be difficult to transform that fact into politically correct consensus “science.

  4. The Iceman Cometh permalink
    May 11, 2015 8:11 pm

    And some stations are having supply problems because the ice thickness has increased so much that the landing places they used to use now have so much greater lift that heavy equipment has to be landed 100km or more away – and then be towed another 100km back, which is a real $#@&^%* schlep (try it – you’ll soon see why!)

  5. May 11, 2015 8:24 pm

    @Omauel
    A reasoned point for my faith in God is here:
    So, -you think it is reasonable to believe that everything you see around you came by accident. Life did not come forth by creation (a plan) but by evolution. You believe in Murphy’s law (Murphy’s law = given that there is a chance that something will happen, then, if there is enough time available, eventually it will happen). You simply refuse to accept that the creation of the whole universe was part of God’s plan for us to be born. Now I will ask you: never mind the question about how life came into being and how incredibly small the chance is that you are alive today. What about the next question: where does matter itself come from? Where did all the atoms that form the person that you are and the earth that you are living on and the air that you are breathing, came from? If you believe there is no God, then obviously in the beginning there must have been absolutely nothing. Good for you if you believe in the Big Bang theory. But the question still remains: where did all the matter that forms the universe, originate from? You see what the problem is? It does not make sense to believe that there is no God because it is not logical.

    In fact, if you believe there is no God, you are actually saying that you believe that out of absolutely nothing and guided by absolutely nobody, an incredible intelligent and intellectual person (like yourself) with a material body came into being.

    Now, for you to believe that such a miracle could have happened, you must actually have a much bigger faith than that of a person simply believing and admitting that there is a Higher Power, a God who created him for a specific plan and purpose!

    Now give me a reasoned reply for your unbelief [in God]

    • May 12, 2015 10:56 am

      And to further complicate things the more we look into matter the less we see of any substance at all. 😀

    • Le Gin permalink
      May 12, 2015 12:37 pm

      “…In fact, if you believe there is no God, you are actually saying that you believe that out of absolutely nothing and guided by absolutely nobody…”

      So, just make something up? Sound ok, well lets run with that!

      Absence of Evidence doesn’t show Evidence of Absence. The truth is we really don’t know, making up stories about a fantasy god that made everything really doesn’t wash. In fact, I’ve always thought it is darn right lazy mindedness.

    • May 12, 2015 7:06 pm

      I do not understand your question.

      I see absolutely no conflict between science and the concept of a God or Spirit of the Universe or Higher Power.

      God and the universe may be two ways of expressing the same infinite reality we cannot fully comprehend.

      • May 12, 2015 7:13 pm

        So sorry. Maybe I misunderstood? I also always thought that science an religion are two ways for the same purpose: finding the Truth. Note Pilate’s discussion with Jesus before his death [what is the truth?]

  6. May 11, 2015 10:38 pm

    Thanks, Paul.
    It seems to me that just thinking about visiting Australia’s Mawson Station brings on an ironic ice storm. Australia will need at two nuclear icebreakers. Pity the taxpayers.

  7. May 12, 2015 1:17 am

    Reblogged this on the WeatherAction News Blog.

  8. May 12, 2015 7:40 am

    The propaganda concerning CO2 & warming of the planet is ludicrous, the media especially the BBC never mention ice levels in Antarctica, I even made a formal complaint to them last month about their lies saying Antarctic was melting. Their response was mendacious tripe.

  9. john in cheshire permalink
    May 12, 2015 9:02 am

    With reference to the ship of fools, I cannot find anything to show that said fools were made to pay the cost of their rescue. Were they ever presented with the bill? Were the rescue services provided solely by Australia and how do the Australian taxpayers feel about that?

  10. Bloke down the pub permalink
    May 12, 2015 9:45 am

    A solution to their re-supply problems?
    http://www.hybridairvehicles.com/

  11. May 12, 2015 11:38 am

    “The problem has been the main driver for a meeting of more than 50 international experts, convening in Hobart until Wednesday, to try and nut out a plan to accurately forecast sea ice levels.” Can’t they just adjust the data and cure the problem?

    • nigel permalink
      May 12, 2015 6:03 pm

      “…nut out a plan…”

      Is this a new coining? I rather like it. Butting heads until something falls out of one of them?
      Or, adopting the nuttiest idea in the room?

  12. Le Gin permalink
    May 12, 2015 12:27 pm

    Question.
    The sea ice around the Antarctic is increasing, but why is it said that the land ice is decreasing? Is this possible? What, if true, are the consequences?

    Thanks to anyone who can answer, and if you could provide a ref that would be awesome.

    N 🙂

    • May 12, 2015 12:57 pm

      It is not true of course. There were a couple of Dutch guys who wanted to investigate how much the arctic ice was thinning. They both died. Presumably drowned, I think. ( I did not get the finer details). The evidence I collected point to a gradual decline in global temperatures,

      • May 12, 2015 1:40 pm

        In other words: it is not so simple to do an investigation and conclude that the ice must be thinning. There was talk about extra volcanic activity at certain places on Antarctica, which could thin the ice somewhat, here and there.

  13. May 12, 2015 2:37 pm

    Reblogged this on The Road to Revelation and commented:
    “THE size and power of ships needed to break through Antarctica’s increasing sea ice levels is a worry for the global research community.”

  14. May 12, 2015 6:53 pm

    The sun is almost completely blank. The main driver of all weather and climate, the entity which occupies 99.86% of all of the mass in our solar system, the great ball of fire in the sky has gone quiet again during what is likely to be the weakest sunspot cycle in more than a century.

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