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“Awaiting Moderation!”

July 7, 2015

 

  By Paul Homewood

 

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http://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2015/07/07/on-the-record-observing-a-heatwave/

 

As I reported earlier, the Met Office have finally responded to concerns over their claims of a “hottest ever July” based on a single, dubious record at Heathrow Airport.

 

A few hours ago, I left this comment:

 

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http://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2015/07/07/on-the-record-observing-a-heatwave/#comment-2305

 

It is still “under moderation”, though to be fair they have probably all gone home for dinner!

 

Still, we shall see what comes up tomorrow. In the meantime, please feel free to pile in and comment!

18 Comments
  1. antoniobianchini permalink
    July 7, 2015 11:39 pm

    I’m 68 and I clearly remember that peaks of heat like this were common during italian summers even when I was a boy. Climate conditions change though. Now, in autumn, I can hardly enjoy in my Veneto region those romantic foggy days that I loved so much. This is because, around the 80’s, some ‘bad’ aerosols were eliminated in industrial and domestic processes. ‘Unfortunately’, such a progress seems to have also produced an increase in soil irradiation by the Sun. Actually, an old venetian say tells: ‘You cannot keep the bottle filled and your wife drunk!’

  2. July 8, 2015 3:55 am

    Paul, Doesn’t seem conspiracy cos 4am your time and there are 3 comments there all anti-met-office.

    • July 8, 2015 4:27 am

      BTW Paul you know it’s the open day Saturday, July 11, 2015
      Univ. Reading: “Dept of of Meteorology – Open Event”
      10:30 AM to 5:00 PM

      The University of Reading’s department of Meteorology is celebrating its 50th anniversary as a world leading centre for weather and climate research.
      Admission is free, but advance booking is required as places are limited. (does that means its full if you say you are a skeptic?)
      To book a place for this event, please visit: http://www.met.reading.ac.uk

      Harwell has an open day on the same day

    • tom0mason permalink
      July 8, 2015 6:04 am

      There is now 4 comments, my comment refers to this blog explicitly.

      • tom0mason permalink
        July 8, 2015 7:32 am

        Unsuprizingly I now find I’m in ‘moderation’. My comment was as below

        tom0mason (06:56:50) : Your comment is awaiting moderation

        Should the Met Office be the foghorn of climate alarmism? What is your remit, to provide accurate timely weather forecasting? Has your performance at weather forecasting improved over the years as your costs to the taxpayer have risen?
        How differently would you perform if this office was on payment by performance for accuracy of weather forecasting?
        You say they ‘know’ how the climate will change over the century but fail completely to accurately forecast weather events for the coming few weeks.
        Is it just me that sees the banality of this, or do taxpayers just shrug their collective shoulders and carry on paying?

        Your inability to answer Paul Homewood’s questions and putting his comment in moderation just shows your lack of public responsiveness at this Met Office.
        Reply

  3. tom0mason permalink
    July 8, 2015 5:53 am

    Should the Met Office be the foghorn of alarmism? What is their remit, to provide accurate timely weather forecasting. Has their performance at weather forecasting improved over the years as their costs to the taxpayer have risen?
    Why not put them on payment by performance for accuracy of weather forecasting?
    They say they ‘know’ how the climate will change over the century but fail completely to accurately forecast weather events for the coming few weeks. It it just me that sees the banality of this, or do taxpayers just shrug their shoulders and carry on paying?

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      July 8, 2015 7:20 am

      Three comments when I looked just now. Interesting that they think difficult questions can be buried and not a soul will notice.

      • tom0mason permalink
        July 8, 2015 7:56 am

        Yes, I note my comment is now in ‘moderation.
        Probably it will stay in moderation just like the comment I made some years ago calling for them to be sold of to the highest bidder.
        Something for the UK Conservative government to think about, eh?

    • July 8, 2015 11:38 am

      Actually the norm to go into moderation there. Comments do go through…eventually. They’ve been fairly quick this time.

      My question on UHI there has gone through but no answer as yet.

      Bruce’s comment (he’s xmetman.wordpress.com) is interesting – by the MetO definition he quoted them on it wasn’t a heatwave.

      http://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2015/07/07/on-the-record-observing-a-heatwave/#comment-2304

  4. July 8, 2015 9:40 am

    All comments now seem to be up now, though no substantive responses to any of the issues we have made.

    • tom0mason permalink
      July 8, 2015 10:49 am

      If they do answer, which I doubt, I hope you are prepared for the pile of semantic sophistry bilge heading your way.

  5. tom0mason permalink
    July 8, 2015 9:49 am

    Update – Met Office has take me (and others) out of moderation and, sort of, replied to me but not Paul. I have now asked if they have any reply to Paul’s questions. This question is in moderation again.

    • July 8, 2015 9:52 am

      My main comment is out of moderation, but I have just added a second one, which has not come out yet.

  6. johnmarshall permalink
    July 8, 2015 10:14 am

    Good letter but do not hold your breath for any sort of sensible reply.

  7. July 8, 2015 10:36 am

    The Germans are also at it – not at a major airport either.

    ‘Germany breaks heat record at 40.3 degrees’
    http://dalje.com/en-world/germany-breaks-heat-record-at-403-degrees/549326

    Pics of the rural weather station here:
    http://www.wetter-by.de/Internet/AM/NotesBAM.nsf/XP_ABC_All/1f410603c5685fe5c1257392004eef3c?OpenDocument&TableRow=3.7

  8. Billy Liar permalink
    July 8, 2015 2:59 pm

    Would it not be more profitable, rather than posting questions on the UKMO blog, to obtain the minute by minute data graphed in the post for temperature and solar radiation for both Heathrow and Kew Gardens and demonstrate by analysis that either/both temperature sensors show errors through unwanted direct response to solar radiation.

    It would also be essential to have the metadata associated with both stations showing what sensors were in use in what sort of enclosure at what time along with data sheets (including dynamic response data) for all of the sensors employed since Heathrow began reporting in 1949.

    It should be pretty easy to show that changing from LIG sensors with a max/min function to readings every 60 seconds from an electronic sensor will inevitably lead to records being broken without any change at all in the weather.

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