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Booker & The CCC’s Plans To Blow Us All Up!

April 24, 2016

By Paul Homewood

 

 

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/23/does-the-committee-on-climate-change-want-to-blow-us-all-up/

 

 

Booker follows up my piece last week on the recent loopy plans to convert the city of Leeds to hydrogen.

 

Some publicity has alighted on the latest brilliant idea from the “greenies” as to how we can comply with the Climate Change Act by “decarbonising” our economy. Ofgem paid £300,000 for a study suggesting that, instead of cooking with CO2-emitting natural gas, we should switch to carbon-free hydrogen. A £2 billion pilot project for Leeds would show how natural gas, or methane, could be converted to hydrogen by piping away all its nasty CO2 to be buried in holes under the North Sea.

This scheme has already been smiled on in principle by the green zealots of the Committee on Climate Change, run by Lord Deben (aka John Gummer), their only real reservation being that it would be rather expensive. But there are one or two other practical problems that would have to be taken into account. One is that the technology to bury the CO2 under the North Sea has not yet been invented, and probably never will be. Another is that, extrapolating from the £2 billion needed to convert 320,000 homes in Leeds by requiring them all to buy new cookers, the cost of extending the scheme across Britain could be a staggering £162 billion.

A third is that, thanks to the absence of carbon, the calorific value of hydrogen in volumetric terms is so much lower than that of methane that we would need very much more of it. A fourth is that the molecules of hydrogen are so tiny that they would escape through any minute crack in the pipework, potentially requiring complete replacement of all gas mains. A fifth is that hydrogen is so inflammable – it has the highest Category 1 industrial risk rating – that, inevitably, it would lead to some rather nasty explosions, bringing the scheme to an abrupt end.

But the really worrying question this raises is why the Government should allow its chief adviser on such matters to be a Committee on Climate Change so technically illiterate that it could not immediately have recognised all this for itself?

17 Comments leave one →
  1. joletaxi permalink
    April 24, 2016 10:21 am

    boum, quand notre cuisiniere fait boum….tralalalal..boum boum

  2. dearieme permalink
    April 24, 2016 11:17 am

    “Slippery stuff, hydrogen” I was warned decades ago. hell’s bells, the bloody stuff can diffuse through glass.

    • Adrian permalink
      April 24, 2016 11:28 am

      Yes indeed the ability to diffuse through glass was a defining characteristic of snake oil touted by a previous generation of shysters.

  3. April 24, 2016 11:47 am

    you can fool all of the people some of the time and some……

  4. NeilC permalink
    April 24, 2016 12:07 pm

    These fools will be telling us H2O is dangerous before long and must be banned, given their scientific knowledge. Stupidity beyound belief.

    CO2 has not warmed the UK for 22 years if it ever did!

    • April 24, 2016 12:42 pm

      You CAN get college students and others to sign petitions banning it as dihydrogen monoxide when they are told that it causes a lot of deaths.

    • Edmonotn Al permalink
      April 24, 2016 1:00 pm

      To date there is no empirical proof, that I am aware of, that CO2 can “trap” “heat” and cause global warming.
      The UN IPCC claims that a doubling of CO2 from 400ppm to 800ppm wil result in a global temperature rise of about 2C degrees. The increase[400ppm], is 1 part in 2500.
      Please tell me how 1 molecule of CO2 can have enough heat capacity to raise the temperature of the other 2499 molecules of Oxygen[O2] and Nitrogen[N2], 2C degrees.

  5. April 24, 2016 1:16 pm

    The demise of the Hindenburg zeppelin on her maiden voyage over Lakehurst, NJ on May 6, 1937 was reported by Herb Morrison who grew up in nearby Connellsville, PA. Working for WLS in Chicago, his famous 43 minute broadcast of the destruction was recorded. In a story I grew up hearing, German Nazi agents followed him on his train back to Chicago from New Jersey. They wanted to steal the recording so that it would never be broadcast and embarrass Germany. He found out about their pursuit and evaded them by staying in crowds of people on the train all the way back to Chicago. The recording was broadcast the day after the crash.

    Following a long career in radio and TV including the first news director of WTAE in Pittsburgh, he moved to Morgantown, WV, his wife’s hometown. He would often lecture to the West Virginia University journalism students. He helped to develop a radio and TV program for the University Relations Dept. He died here in 1989.

    Will Obama now apologize to Germany for our not selling them helium?

  6. April 24, 2016 1:47 pm

    Since oxidizing H will produce H2O, which is also a GHG according to GW theory, the will be no effect except for impoverishing many?

  7. April 24, 2016 3:59 pm

    I’m with mkelly on this H2O vapour & droplets are greenhouse gases.
    I’ve been marking A-level Chemistry scripts for some years now and the answer you look for with the use of hydrogen is not hazardous or dangerous but EXPLOSIVE. Who the hell is wasting my tax contribution this way?

  8. April 24, 2016 4:37 pm

    Booker’s last sentance is a very good question. The PPM degree will be death of UK reason.

  9. April 24, 2016 6:23 pm

    PPE, not PPM. Brain cramp.

  10. Bitter&twisted permalink
    April 24, 2016 7:48 pm

    Lord Dipin should look up the “Hindenburg” to remind his dimess of the explosive potential of hydrogen.

  11. David Young permalink
    April 25, 2016 6:53 am

    The company I was formerly employed at once had a hydrogen atmosphere bright annealing furnace. I say once because, as one can probably imagine, it did eventually go bang – even with all its knobs and whistles of safety interlocks.

    Perhaps it would have been beneficial had those proposing such a ludicrous scheme been there at the time. I was, and it was quite spectacular, but it was more by luck than good judgement that no one was seriously hurt.

  12. AlecM permalink
    April 25, 2016 8:27 am

    These lunatics have created their own asylum, at our great expense.

  13. Vernon E permalink
    April 25, 2016 10:09 am

    Not so convinced by Booker’s argument about leaks – until North Sea Gas (methane) came along hydrogen was a major constituent of towns gas,. But he missed the point that the proposal is to produce the hydrogen by the steam/methane reforming process, absorbing the carbon dioxide co-product by “carbon capture”. This perfectly normal and feasible (unlike from power station flue, because there is no nitrogen to contend with). But he misses the point that the reforming reaction is highly endothermic and the reformer is fuelled by gas and produces the usual flue gas of carbon dioxide and nitrogen. Back to square one!

    • Graeme No.3 permalink
      April 25, 2016 4:18 pm

      Vernon E:
      The green unicorn brigade believes they can use renewable energy to produce hydrogen by the intermittent hydrolysis at atmospheric pressure. This is the worst possible choice available at probable 35% efficiency, even the high pressure continuous hydrolysis process at 95% efficiency (on electricity, some heat input) was uneconomic compared with steam/methane reforming before the recent drop in methane prices.
      Rational thinking is rationed in green circles.

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