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The Energy Absurdity Of The Paris Climate Agreement | The Global Warming Policy Forum (GWPF)

June 21, 2016

http://www.thegwpf.com/the-energy-absurdity-of-the-paris-climate-agreement/

A Greenpeace study reveals what the feted Paris Climate Agreement implies for the German public. If implemented, Germany will be unrecognizable in a few years.

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  1. A C Osborn permalink
    June 21, 2016 4:11 pm

    What I found astounding about this piece is the that the Greens are going through the calculations without any apparent reservations about the financial or costs.
    Totall deluded, what parallel universe do they live in?

  2. June 21, 2016 4:44 pm

    Is there any chance you or your readers could attend the GeoEthics Conference in London on 8-9 Sept 2016?

    https://geoethic.com/london-conference-2016/

    My paper is a tribute to my mentor, Paul Kazuo Kuroda (1917-2001):

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/Solar_Energy_Earth_Climate.pdf

    Hope to see you in London.

  3. AlecM permalink
    June 21, 2016 4:48 pm

    And because CO2-AGW in our climate is kept near zero by the water cycle, the fast 1980s – 1990s warming being from another cause, there is no real time pressure anyway, except that forced by the end of fossil fuels in 2-300 years.

  4. Jackington permalink
    June 21, 2016 6:40 pm

    I think either Lewis Carroll or Franz Kafka must have had a hand in writing this fantasy – and what about aircraft? To be effective, the whole world needs to take similar actions otherwise it is useless.

  5. June 21, 2016 6:43 pm

    Even if the costs were zero it would still be futile because:
    a) it’s impossible to build and install that many wind turbines and solar panels in the timescales they want (not to mention connecting them to the grid system)
    b) wind power needs the wind to blow and solar needs the sun to shine (obvious, but apparently ignored by green dreamers)
    c) they have no energy storage capacity worth mentioning and are not going to get it any time soon, if ever

    • June 21, 2016 6:58 pm

      One of the interesting comments is that Germany will need five times as much electricity!!

      They dont say where this might come from!

      • June 21, 2016 9:14 pm

        Maybe if the cost of German electricity goes up by a factor of 10 the consumption may go down by a factor of 5😉

        Or lots of people and businesses leave the country in search of cheaper power and less crazy politicians.

      • sarastro92 permalink
        June 22, 2016 12:53 am

        The politicians are giving the Volk exactly what they wish for… sad, but modern Germany could once again become an object lesson for the rest of the world. Sad because I admire so much of classical German culture and science. But the population rejected it probably perhaps in the postwar brainwashing guilt tripping. But much of this is willful, coming from otherwise thoughtful people deluded by fantasy and ideology.

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      June 22, 2016 7:05 am

      Most wind driven generators have nominal output at around a minimum of12-15m/s which has to be continuous and remain below cut-out velocity. around 25 m/s. 12m/s is 25 knots or Force 6 on the Beaufort Scale, Force 6 is a “Strong Breeze” and will have to be at Force 7 “Near Gale” description – Whole trees in motion; inconvenience felt when walking against the wind.

      Even Shetland doesn’t manage those sort of conditions. Taking Northampton, there are a lot (my bold) of wind driven generators beside the M1 around Northampton wind conditions are:

      Over the course of the year typical wind speeds vary from 1 m/s to 8 m/s (light air to fresh breeze), rarely exceeding 12 m/s (strong breeze).

      The highest average wind speed of 5 m/s (moderate breeze) occurs around January 12, at which time the average daily maximum wind speed is 8 m/s (fresh breeze).

      The lowest average wind speed of 4 m/s (gentle breeze) occurs around June 8, at which time the average daily maximum wind speed is 6 m/s (moderate breeze).

      Only a numerical incompetent would consider wind a viable method of generating electricity for a national grid.

  6. David Richardson permalink
    June 21, 2016 9:00 pm

    Frightening isn’t it? – Or is it? It is so far adrift from reality that surely sanity will have to appear at some point.

    After Thursday we will know if the 4th Reich will lead us into this stupidness or whether we will have any chance at all of coming to our senses in the fullness of time.

  7. June 22, 2016 1:06 am

    The absurdity of the Paris Agreement is derived from the absurdity of the UNEP
    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2794991

  8. June 22, 2016 5:19 am

    Reblogged this on Wolsten.

  9. ralfellis permalink
    June 24, 2016 7:10 pm

    They seem to forget that even if they manage to increase windelecs (wind turbines) by five fold, this is still not enough. If a nation is to store enough energy for a two week wind outage (which are quite common), you would need to multiply the current number of windelecs by ten or fifteen – to provide the energy for the (presumably) pumped water storage system.

    And then you would have to build this vast pumped storage system too, and all in areas of natual beauty, disturbing hundreds of natual habitats. So when you calculate all of that, the total cost of energy would probably have to increase by a factor of ten. And this would push the majority of workers into poverty and starvation, or into energy poverty living in the cold. (I saw a pensioner in the UK doing this, he had his doors open all through the winter and he had no heating, so it was the same temperature inside as out. I was freezing inside ten minutes, but he did not seem to notice.)

    The future if Germany. And for what? Where is the cast-iron proof that C02 causes the amount of global warming they claim? I have never seen it.

    R

  10. John Palmer permalink
    June 29, 2016 6:52 pm

    Slightly (only slightly) off-topic… hasn’t taken Comrades Harrabin & Millband long to start trying to put the pressure on, post Brexit, has it?
    I do hope that our ‘Climate and Energy Policies’ are fully re-set after the new Cabinet are settled-in. A good start would be closing-down DECC.
    Link herewith: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36654281

    • June 30, 2016 11:36 am

      Pure jingoism, but they have the upper hand and control of the meja!
      Almost all MPs are party to the madness, so it will continue, sadly.

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