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Hornsea Project Two Gets Go Ahead

August 17, 2016

By Paul Homewood 

 

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When complete, the windfarm will deliver up to 1,800 megawatts of low carbon electricity to around 1.8 million UK homes.

The windfarm would create up to 1,960 construction jobs and 580 operational and maintenance jobs. If built to the full capacity, the investment would total around £6bn providing a great opportunity for economic growth in the Humber region and beyond.

Business and Energy Secretary Greg Clark said:

The UK’s offshore wind industry has grown at an extraordinary rate over the last few years, and is a fundamental part of our plans to build a clean, affordable, secure energy system.

Britain is a global leader in offshore wind, and we’re determined to be one of the leading destinations for investment in renewable energy, which means jobs and economic growth right across the country.

Located approximately 89km off the Yorkshire coast, the windfarm will comprise up to 300 wind turbines and will connect to the grid at North Killingholme in North Lincolnshire.

The Government is making £730m of financial support available for renewable electricity generation this Parliament, sending a clear signal that the UK is open for business. We expect 10GW of offshore wind installed by the end of this decade and could see up to 10GW of new offshore wind in the 2020s as costs come down.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/worlds-largest-windfarm-receives-planning-go-ahead

 

Hornsea will be capable of producing about 6TWh a year. It has already been awarded a Contract for Difference of £140/MWh, at 2012 prices. At current prices, this is worth £148.06, representing a subsidy of about £105/MWh against the present market price.

At these prices, the annual subsidy would be £630 million, or £9450 million over the life of the 15-year contract.

Hornsea is being developed by SMart Wind Ltd, a wholly owned subsidiary of DONG.

35 Comments leave one →
  1. Harry Passfield permalink
    August 17, 2016 10:47 am

    The next time I buy a car I’m going to insist that the salesman sells me the most inefficient one at four times the price. Then I shall feel really virtuous – and that I am the equal of any politician. /s

    • Gerry, England permalink
      August 17, 2016 12:32 pm

      But Harry, the trick is to get somebody else to pay for it.

      • August 17, 2016 10:01 pm

        You guys have just described A Tesla
        or Even Elon Musk of Tesla

  2. William Baird permalink
    August 17, 2016 11:28 am

    But what happens when the wind dont blow?

    When will this mania end?

    • Gerry, England permalink
      August 17, 2016 12:40 pm

      When the economy collapses to such an extent that even the bubble dwellers can’t ignore it or the mob of unemployed marching on Westminster with burning torches seeking retribution. With most high energy manufacture already on the way out, it might be the car industry that finally brings reality if a series of cold winters with frequent blackouts or brown outs doesn’t first. Tata are setting up to manufacture in the east. Once started what will stop its expansion if electricity costs keep rising here?

      • tom0mason permalink
        August 17, 2016 7:51 pm

        …mob of unemployed marching on Westminster with burning torches seeking retribution.

        Surely if the mob only seek retribution they deserve all they get, for all they shall get is to be fooled again at some future date. A mob of sheeple!
        They should seek justice and just punishment for the guilty. With honest justice comes enlightenment and knowledge, and from there comes real progress, real education.

        Those that advocate retribution shall suffer with and in their ignorance, damned as they are to repeat their failure, as they seek to remodel everyone and everything to fit their limited understanding.

    • Stosh permalink
      August 18, 2016 4:50 am

      They will use the politician’s hot air to create a high pressure area and generate wind.

  3. Coeur de Lion permalink
    August 17, 2016 11:29 am

    I note that Wind is producing 0.7 GW or 2.25% of UK demand right now (midday 17 Aug) and as far as one can deduce from the graphs, Wind bumbles along the bottom of the Annual graph with very rarely indeed reaching 5GW. What is the installed capacity? (watch gridwatch.templar)

  4. Coeur de Lion permalink
    August 17, 2016 11:35 am

    I’ll answer my own question – Wikipedia says 12GW. I think people who talk about hundreds of thousands of houses and 11% etc etc are probably lying. Watch gridwatch.

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      August 17, 2016 12:17 pm

      The UK has 6,867 industrial wind turbines
      [ http://www.renewableuk.com/page/UKWEDhome ]
      with a total capacity of 14GW.
      present production 0.6 GW, so where’s the other 13 GW ??

      & Solar PV – Current installed capacity ~8.7GW UK (actual output is too small & dispersed to record).
      • at 13:00 my 4kW array only managed to peak 3.1kW….on a bright sunny day in Aug !!!

      We also have 15 nuclear plants (total capacity of 9GW) present production 8 GW.

      Last year wind supplied ~7% of demand…intermittently;
      Whilst nuclear gave 3x as much (23% of demand….ON demand)
      See data on this page – http://nationalgrid.stephenmorley.org/

      Which would you prefer your life support system connected to ??

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        August 17, 2016 6:55 pm

        “Which would you prefer your life support system connected to?”
        That’s a very good response to those 97%-ers who wonder which doctor you’d use based on consensus.

  5. Green Sand permalink
    August 17, 2016 11:59 am

    Interesting letter in the DT, not sure what the full implication of ‘The system price in Norway is’ but £22 per megawatt-hour has gained my attention!

    ‘For clean, cheap, reliable energy – look north’

    “SIR – Uncertainty over Hinkley Point C continues. Now is the time for Britain to take a step back and consider other options. One of these is buying electricity generated by renewable sources from a trusted neighbour, and at a fraction of the cost.

    National Grid, and its Norwegian equivalent Statnett, have started work on an interconnector between Norway and Britain called the North Sea Link. Another interconnector, the North Connect project, is being planned.

    The two interconnectors could deliver the same amount of energy as Hinkley Point, but with two major differences: the energy would be renewable, and it would be cheap.

    Hinkley Point is expected to cost £18 billion, and the subsidies for it are estimated at £30 billion. It guarantees a price of £92.50 per megawatt-hour. The day base price of electricity in Britain is £46 per megawatt-hour.

    Two interconnectors would cost about £3 billion. The system price in Norway is £22 per megawatt-hour. We have the capacity to add more interconnectors, but such projects would demand political commitment.

    Hinkley Point will provide about

    7 per cent of Britain’s electricity and ensure security of supply. However, given that half of Europe’s hydro-storage capacity lies in Norway, our reserves present a realistic alternative. Of course, as representatives of the Norwegian power sector, we have a vested interest in boosting exports of renewable electricity to Britain. But such a deal would benefit both of our economies – and the environment.

    Norway has a surplus of electricity, as well as the natural resources and space to increase renewable production cheaply. We hope the new British Government, with a post-Brexit mandate, will look to us.”

    Daniel J Willoch
    Andreas T Aasheim
    Norwegian Wind Energy Association
    Oslo, Norway

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/08/16/letters-britains-olympic-success-shows-that-it-can-prosper-on-it/

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      August 17, 2016 12:20 pm

      Scandinavian electric generation MW & spot Prices € (auto updates every min) [ sometimes takes a long time to load] –
      http://www.statnett.no/en/The-power-system/Production-and-consumption/State-of-the-Nordic-Power-System-Map/

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      August 17, 2016 12:23 pm

      Denmark – Real time generation/consumption – showing energy splits –
      http://www.emd.dk/el/
      (choice of west, east or all Denmark • Note: the IMPORT figure (often 30 – 50 %) is energy supplied by Norway & Germany)

      • Gerry, England permalink
        August 17, 2016 12:34 pm

        I thought that Denmark has to virtually give away electricity to Norway when its wind generation is at maximum?

      • 1saveenergy permalink
        August 17, 2016 1:00 pm

        Yes, when demand is low & wind production is high they end up dumping, Norway takes this free energy for pumped storage, then sells it back at top $ to Denmark.
        Great system…..for Norway !!!

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      August 17, 2016 12:52 pm

      While I’m at it you may like to see these –

      1 – Here are the individual outputs from all conventional UK power stations of 400MW or larger.
      http://www.ukenergywatch.org/Electricity/PowerStations

      2 – RWE Windfarms output Europe – http://rwe-renewableslive.com/#/map/EU
      (a minus fig indicates machines drawing power from grid )

      3 – UK Grid Graphed
      http://euanmearns.com/uk-grid-graphed/summary-graphs/

      enjoy

    • August 17, 2016 2:02 pm

      The Norwegian Wind Energy Association (NORWEA) was recently protesting loudly after the centre-right government announced that it will end its ‘electricity certificate’ subsidy system within 5 years. It is also threatening to introduce wind development zones in order to “dampen conflicts and contribute with appropriate choices of locating wind power.”

      http://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/1391551/premature-end-norway-green-certificates?

      The state-owned Norwegian energy conglomerate Statkraft has announced that it is to halt new investment in offshore projects as part of an “adjusted” investment strategy.

      The downturn in Norway’s oil industry is seriously affecting the investment climate at the moment.

      Statkraft has been a major player in UK offshore wind projects.

      Norway enjoys very low electricity prices due to an abundance of hydro, which accounts some 99% of power. Wind has never been able to compete without very large subsidies.

      Statkraft abandoned 1GW of planned onshore wind investment in 2014 as “uneconomic”. But have recently revived plans to complete some of their planned onshore schemes.

      Norway’s installed wind capacity at the end of 2015 stood at only 819MW, with no new capacity added during the year. It is looking to install up to 3.5GW by 2020.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-norway-windpower-idUSBRE8A618M20121107

  6. Green Sand permalink
    August 17, 2016 1:23 pm

    I like Norway, I admired the way they controlled the development of their offshore assets. Having developed their own engineering design houses they only released sectors within their capability. Maximum benefit to Norway and their own citizens! Why not?

    It would appear they then wisely invested their North Sea wealth in hydro infrastructure.

  7. August 17, 2016 1:50 pm

    Paul “will connect to the grid at North Killingholme in North Lincolnshire”
    That bit is a little strange..You’d expect a Hornsea windfarm to connect to the grid at Hornsea. Not for cabling to cross the Humber Estuary and wind up 16 miles away from the sea..By coincidence next to gas power station of one of our Climate Committee friends

    Killingolmea power stations are next to Immingham’s I think we are talking about 4 power stations altogther 2 old/closed, 1 or 2 working and 1 under construction.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      August 17, 2016 2:10 pm

      Stew: Verrrrry interesting. Could it be that the output of the gas power station and the wind farm(s) will be homgenised. That would make for difficult assessments by the powers that be (and us) and also allow energy delivered to be charged at the better rate as required (assumes wind energy is a multiple of gas energy and it being difficult to tell teh difference on delivery).
      BTW: who is the CC man involved?

      • August 17, 2016 10:35 pm

        C.Gen are, by coincidence, building a 470MW gas power plant next door to Killingholme.
        (I thought that was connected to Lord Deben ..but maybe not, he’s Veloia

        – Centrica’s :South Humber Bank Power Station at Stallingborough is the other operating PS nearby (The others next door are closed /mothballed)

      • August 17, 2016 10:14 pm

        Yep cable comes in at Horseshoe Point south of Cleethorpes , where there are windfarms. So it does seem like the cable is being routed from windfarm to windfarm to windfarm instead of coming direct to the coast on the quickest route.
        Then cable comes across land for 25Km to Killingholme .
        Note that Killingholme is the site of the ABLE Marine energy park pushed by Lord Haskins and the media he is friends with.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      August 18, 2016 10:39 am

      Presumably they tap into the power station’s grid transformers and connection.

  8. tom0mason permalink
    August 17, 2016 2:44 pm

    Britain has affirmed its place as number one in the stupidity stakes!
    Yes the evidence is clear with the utter idiocy of giving the go ahead to create the world’s largest folly in the shape of an offshore windfarm, called Hornsea Project Two.

    The Government is making £100s of millions of financial support available (aka other people’s money) for ruinous electricity degeneration with the consent of Parliament, sending a clear signal to tricksters and conmen everywhere — the UK is open for crony-capitalist business dealing.

    • August 17, 2016 4:16 pm

      Apparently (according to George Clark) the UK are a leading windpower country. Isn’t it funny that this lead means that we import all the wind turbines and pay vast amounts of subsidies to Danish, German and Norwegian companies???

      You are right about our position in the stupidity stakes.

  9. August 17, 2016 6:53 pm

    There’s a bit of a mismatch between the politicians and their bureaucrats in the Planning Inspectorate, who think wind power is the best thing since indoor plumbing and the late Prof Sir Davd MacKay ex-chief scientific advisor at DECC, who said that wind and solar power are a waste of money for the UK.

    I wonder how many more years it will be before politicians start to listen to those who know what they are talking about. I guess we’ll need widespread blackouts and civil unrest before sense will prevail.

  10. August 17, 2016 8:49 pm

    Phillip
    For most of my adult life I have rubbed shoulders with politicians of all shades, admittedly at the level of boroughs and counties or their Scottish equivalent. Almost (almost!) every Councillor and MP I know has always been in politics to serve the interests of those who elected them. They are up against two problems.
    1. Many of them are ordinary working men (and women) with no particular expertise outside their own occupation.
    2. Most of them are aware of their limitations and are always more than happy to listen to those who know what they are talking about.
    3. Like who, for example? They are virtually obliged to pay heed to their officials, else why employ them? Their officials do indeed know what they are talking about – within their area of expertise. But like the rest of us they have kids to bring up, houses to look after, sports to take part in … all the things that go to make up a life. So when they are told by those who have letters after their name and prima facie evidence that they know what they are talking about because they are recognised “experts” in their field then what is a poor Councillor or MP or official to do? For sure they don’t have the time to dig and why would they? They would resent you or I telling them how to do their job; they afford others the same courtesy.
    So, yes, it will take something along the lines of blackouts or patently “unwarm” weather or just maybe a different approach to weather forecasting by MeteoGroup (don’t hold your breath) when they take over at the BBC next Spring before the message starts to get through.
    It’s that simple.

  11. August 17, 2016 10:21 pm

    I believe that the connectors cost £15million per kilometre,to £20mill.,depending on type of installation site.Hornsea site at 120km off shore gives.£1800mill.
    Austerity,?.Tell that to the poor,the old,and the cold.Tell it to the jobless in the decimated coal and steel towns,and its all for the big Green Lie.
    Carbon Dioxide is the life gas for the planet.Thats it.Nothing at all to with so called Climate Change caused by the burning of fossil fuels.
    We need coal fired power stations as soon as possible,home grown,and secure before all industry has gone abroad,and we are left with candles,and the Dark Ages again.

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