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Don’t Blame The Youngsters For Falling For The Lies, It’s Our Fault.

September 27, 2016

By Paul Homewood 

 

 

This is how millennial nerds view the climate:

 

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https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2016/09/27/the-nerdy-cartoon-that-explains-why-millennials-dont-have-a-clue-about-climate-change/

 

 

 

And this is the reality:

 

GISP2 TemperatureSince10700 BP with CO2 from EPICA DomeC

http://climate4you.com/images/GISP2%20TemperatureSince10700%20BP%20with%20CO2%20from%20EPICA%20DomeC.gif

 

 

 

I actually feel very, very sorry that we have failed the younger generation so badly.

Goodbye, education.

34 Comments leave one →
  1. DreadUK permalink
    September 27, 2016 9:43 pm

    Behave yourself. I don’t blame my parents for their mistakes. Our generation made our own mistakes. They can make theirs.

    A pathetic excuse to absolve responsibility.

  2. September 27, 2016 10:05 pm

    Paul, a cartoon equivalent to Mann’s hockey stick is just a cartoon. Whereas the TAR hockey stick image was and remains very bad ‘science’ that severely damaged paleoclimate ‘truth’. Nobody of any importance cares about a nerdy cartoon. Everybody should care about Mann’s hockey stick. Thoroughly discredited yet the meme lives on, with Mann academically honored for statistical incompetency (centered PCA) and intellectual dishonesty (Nature trick to hide the decline).

  3. tom0mason permalink
    September 27, 2016 11:09 pm

    The children at school today will be learning science that must clearly deliver a green, sustainable message to be relevant. All experiments and data sources will be virtualised, all results modelled for the preconceived outcomes.

    In just a few short years the children will not know what the real scientific method is.

    • Dave N permalink
      September 28, 2016 1:12 am

      It’s impossible to escape reality. In a generation or so, it’ll come crashing down hard, and guess who that generation will blame for it? Even when that occurs, it may well be that the scientific method will remain a thing of the past, and each generation will continue to blame those before them for the delusions that are passed on to them.

      • bobl permalink
        September 28, 2016 3:18 am

        You mean Gen X and Gen Y I suppose, not many classically educated baby boomers are convinced.

    • Stonyground permalink
      September 28, 2016 11:22 am

      I’m 58. I didn’t learn about the scientific method at school, our experiments had a pre determined outcome and if they went wrong we had to write them up as if they had worked the way they were supposed to. I became aware of the scientific method through the reading that I did since leaving school.

      • September 28, 2016 8:33 pm

        I am of a similar age, and I was taught it very early. If an experiment goes ‘wrong’ where the results are ‘known’; “why?” becomes the question. You failed if you didn’t examine both setups for errors and biases with an eye toward doing proper error analysis and propagation. If we, the Boomers, and the generations before us have failed, that’s where we have failed.

      • tom0mason permalink
        September 28, 2016 8:41 pm

        I’m a little older, and was taught the scientific method at school from very early on. Some of the first lessons were to instil in us an understanding of what ‘facts’, ‘theory’ etc. are.
        The sign above the blackboard read —
        “Argue With Facts.”
        I have many memories of the Science Masters being very interested when a pupil’s experiment fails. This was often used as an excuse for the (bored?) Masters to investigate what happened, with many of the pupil tasked with checking and rechecking all the measurements. If I recall correctly, the reason(s) for the experimental failure was usually found and explained well enough for (at least) myself to understand.

        The other part of the subject that appears to be missing from the teaching of science in later years was the history of science. With explanations of some old theories, their merits and failures, and how and when they were debunked; how science is about change and progress.
        Overall I feel that science used to be taught better, less theory, more hands on — but that may be a feature of hindsight’s rose tinted lenses regarding what appears to be halcyon days of youth. Forgetting all those nights struggling to finish homework, balancing chemical reactions, or, moments about a fulcrum …

  4. John F. Hultquist permalink
    September 28, 2016 3:26 am

    … we have failed the younger generation …

    I remember very little from my “younger” days. I do remember that butter was bad and we had little plastic pouches with oleomargarine (white) and a small yellow bit. We crushed the yellow bit, messaged the mess, and soon we had yellow stuff that looked a lot like butter.
    Now it is claimed that butter is better.
    Stomach ulcers were caused by bad diet and we were told to keep to a bland diet. Now we hear diet does not play an important role in either causing or preventing ulcers.
    Lots of tomatoes in the diet was “good” and now, not true.
    Remember “cleanliness is next to Godliness” – now it is claimed children need to be exposed to mud, bugs, and germs or the immune system doesn’t develop.
    And on it goes.

    All of these things encourage skepticism in all things.

    Cheer up.

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      September 28, 2016 7:04 am

      and we can all add to that list.

    • September 28, 2016 5:33 pm

      John, cleanliness was always a good thing. The modern problem is the obsession with hygiene. The theory that “you have to eat a peck of dirt before you die” was the sort of rough and ready rule of thumb that our grandparents lived by and taught us.

      Wash your hands after you have been to the toilet (for fairly obvious reasons); wash your hands before a meal (because mum doesn’t know where you have been) and in the long run live at peace (most of the time) with the family’s germs.

      Now when every effort is made to convince everyone to eliminate every germ, the good along with the bad, the immune system never gets a chance for a workout and stops trying.

      I see it as a distant relation to the “safe spaces” and similar psychological obsessions that aim at keeping the current generation of youngsters as far as possible from anything that might disturb their blissful existences. The only place (if you believe in it) where you are entitled to expect a blissful existence is heaven; this life holds no such promises!

      As for the rest, that is how science advances (hopefully). You get it wrong then you get it right. Unless there is government research money available. Then you always get it right but government determines what “right” is, from time to time. Think George Orwell!

  5. Mark Hodgson permalink
    September 28, 2016 7:29 am

    My step-son’s mother-in-law is a primary school teacher. She lives in a multi-cultural location. Ostensibly to avoid the problems that might be caused by multiple faiths in having a faith-based assembly, she tells me that they now have “green” assemblies instead. Says it all, really. That’s the new faith that apparently can be signed up to by all.

  6. Malcolm Bell permalink
    September 28, 2016 7:58 am

    Yes Paul. Education has crashed and burned. The politicians have won. Opinion and emotion is more important than cold hard reason. We’re that not the case we would not listen to Economists. Intellectual authority is achieved by simply passing exams and confirming to the Professors that you have fallen into line and are happy to learn without thinking.

    We call just about anything a “science” eg social science, fiscal science, dietary science, all of medicine is now called a science when mostly it is an art at best. Yesterday someone spoke to me about the science of emerging new art forms!!

    You won’t believe this but they even call call the cult of climate change a science! Absurd of course – it is a sect like spiritualism (also called a science until very recently).

    R.I.P my beautiful real science.

    • September 28, 2016 10:23 am

      Don’t forget political science

      • September 28, 2016 5:35 pm

        Remember, Malcolm and Phillip, if it has “science” in its title it’s not science!

        Workable rule of thumb, that.

  7. NeilC permalink
    September 28, 2016 8:55 am

    The really sad thing is, any child living in the UK born in 1993 (23 years ago) having gone through primary, secondary and university education has NOT experienced any climate change. (CET 1993-2016)

    • September 28, 2016 12:18 pm

      Is it fair to say that they have not even experienced a major heat wave or cold snap in that timescale? I’m a lot older and have only really experienced two very hot summers and cold winters (with my village blocked-in for 2 weeks in one case).

      I must sadly agree with Malcolm that science is the loser from the “proven science” belief.

  8. dennisambler permalink
    September 28, 2016 9:16 am

    South Australia Blackout:

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/south-australia-blackout-once-in-50year-storm-lashes-state-20160928-grqpks.html?eid=email:nnn-13omn655-ret_newsl-membereng:nnn-04%2F11%2F2013-news_pm-dom-news-nnn-smh-u&campaign_code=13INO009&et_bid=29045045&promote_channel=edmail&mbnr=MzgyNDQwMw

    “Energy generation in South Australia is an issue that’s never too far from the headlines.

    The state gets around 40 per cent of its energy from wind turbines, however in the current extreme weather the wind is too strong so the turbines aren’t turning.

    In December, Premier Jay Weatherill hosted an energy crisis meeting after the state’s commitment to renewable energy sparked a spike in the prices of fossil-fueled energy, in some cases by as much as 10 times.

    This July, the state government asked the owner of a gas-fueled power station to turn it back on. South Australia is connected to the National Electricity Market via an interconnector with Victoria, however it is believed this connection is currently down.”

    So much for protecting the younger generation, hospitals etc are on generators

    • NeilC permalink
      September 28, 2016 9:34 am

      If only our MPs took notice of this as an example, and learned a lesson of what they are trying to do in the UK. Unreliable energy is a disaster for every industiral nation.

  9. It doesn't add up... permalink
    September 28, 2016 11:28 am

    This seems to be kicking up quite a storm:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-28/sa-weather-%27serious-questions%27-must-be-answered-frydenberg-says/7886262

    State-wide blackout in South Australia due to over-reliance on renewables and an interconnector as backup.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      September 28, 2016 12:23 pm

      That allegation about a 1 in 50 year storm might make for interesting investigation. The last time there was an equivalent storm, did the grid collapse?

  10. Don B permalink
    September 28, 2016 11:46 am

    It is not just the children who have been told lies.

    “STUDY: EARTH’S ROUGHLY WARMEST IN ABOUT 100,000 YEARS

    BY SETH BORENSTEIN
    AP SCIENCE WRITER”

  11. Gerry, England permalink
    September 28, 2016 12:58 pm

    The Socialists got hold of UK education just as I was coming to the end of my stint. The grammar schools were being destroyed and the lower level CSE exam was introduced to give prizes for all. This had a knock on effect as other qualifications had to dumb down to allow the holders of CSEs to go on to further education. The thought that it might be better to try to stretch them to reach GCE level wasn’t in their minds. I quite like the French system of staying until you achieve your Bac. And schools could stream pupils such that at my grammar maths was split into 4 sets with 2 taking the exam in 4th form and 2 in the 5th form. Child centred learning came along which meant not teaching them but helping them find out for themselves. A complete abrogation of the responsibility to educate. I left primary school where we sat around tables for a prep school where desks were focused to the front where the important person – the teacher – stood.

    the left fear educated people as they might notice socialism is a dumb idea and yet the Soviet Union embraced educating their brightest to help fight the Cold War.

  12. jamesg permalink
    September 28, 2016 1:24 pm

    It’s quite funny the mental gymnastics they use to avoid having to admit the obvious:

    For past warming they say look at the Antarctic ice cores because the Arctic ice cores show no unusual temps and no correlation with CO2; both contrary to the AGW hypothesis.

    Yet for present warming they say look at the Arctic because the Antarctic is cooling contrary to the AGW hypothesis.

  13. PHIL SAUNDERS permalink
    September 28, 2016 2:22 pm

    I have recorded a piece for Feedback on BBC Radio 4 to be broadcast on Friday at 1630.
    It answers last week’s programme where a stats expert said there was no need for the BBC to challenge statistics used by experts on climate change, as the majority of scientists were quite clear.
    Rigour? Don’t make me laugh!

  14. BLACK PEARL permalink
    September 28, 2016 2:26 pm

    Reading the above comments just reinforces what I’ve thought for a long time now, is that everything we are told is just bull poop.
    Nearly everyone in some sort of position plays the politician and follows the script so as to protect their employment
    Cameron Osborne Carney & the rest of the lying remainiacs were just another confirmation of the bull poop

    People like Farage Trump etc are needed to cut through it and expose the reality

  15. September 28, 2016 3:21 pm

    Fortunately, humans, even young humans can think for themselves. That’s good, because they will have to save themselves from the mass of disinformation flowing around, because the education system will not do it for them. The education system is the problem.

    • DreadUK permalink
      September 28, 2016 4:42 pm

      Barely. My recently graduated daughter and her Law studying boyfriend didn’t agree with Brexit because it would mean they couldn’t travel freely in Europe!

      I pointed out to them both that my parents travelled to the Far East shortly after WW2 and settled in a formerly Japanese-occupied country. What’s the big deal!?

      And I’ll veer off topic for a paragraph: It took us old codgers to come to our senses after voting us into the Common Market before, 40 years later, realising we had made a monumental mistake when it turned into the political monster we were promised it wouldn’t. Sorry to the remainers on here, I’m absolutely not having a go at you guys. But the political manipulation has now become obvious; In my belief, Cameron and Boris colluded to have BoJo run an incompetent, bumbling campaign in order to scupper any chance of Brexit, Boris being about as popular as Fred West. What would the result have been had a proper, serious, politician like Theresa May or David Davies run it (despite what you may think of them personally).

      I don’t see our youth’s experiential progress to be any faster than ours though despite all the education opportunities they have. They are as subject to the aforementioned political manipulation as the Brexit campaign was. They are convinced the world will be worse off with more CO2 in it despite it being desperately good for plant life (and my daughters a Zoologist now as well!!!); they can’t see that we are teetering on the edge of another ice age because they are blinded by the bullshit they are fed at school and University; they don’t get, as was eloquently pointed out earlier, that they have never seen any climate change; but they are convinced we are all going to burn up unless we conform to Al Gores profit model of generational manipulation for his personal benefit.

      I hope and pray Gore will be the first person ever to be stripped of a Nobel Prize, posthumously if need be……..No idea if anyone has ever been stripped of one before, I’m hoping not.

      Will the AGW promoting scientists be subject to prosecution under RICO legislation when someone in authority actually admits that the climate is entirely beyond human influence? Were it not for the negative humanitarian impact, I almost hope we suddenly plunge into a little ice age so we can parade these fraudsters in front of the scientific community demonstrating what happens to the people we entrust to ask questions on our behalf, but instead, sell themselves out to the highest bidder.

    • A C Osborn permalink
      September 28, 2016 5:15 pm

      Sorry TA, but I fear you are wrong.
      Over the last 5 years I have had discussions about AGW & Renewable Energy with many Post Grads and other students.
      They are totally brainwashed.
      As is my own great Nephew, I have shown him a great deal of data that clearly refutes both, but he will not look, listen or learn. He still believes that soon most of the world will drown, there will be no Polar Bears, there will be no Sea Ice anywhere and the Land Ice in Greenland and Antarctica will all melt due to runaway temperatures unless we convert 100% to Renewables. (It didn’t stop him from flying back & fore to the USA to see his Girlfriend and obtain a degree at the same time though)
      Sceptics are all a great Oil Industry inspired conspiracy, not the other way around.
      And just like Dreaduk’s daughter he believes that the Brexit Result has Ruined his life and we are all to blame.
      Most of those that are gullible/brainwashed/too lazy to check for themselves about AGW are also those that believe that the EU is wonderful and that we owe everything to them.
      Before the EU we never had any human rights, worker rights or could travel and live freely around most of the world.
      They also do not appear to have much practical understanding of history either.

  16. Dorian permalink
    September 28, 2016 4:24 pm

    If every generation felt sorry for failing the next on-coming generation, we would have a world of just a bunch of crying good for nothings.

    This is not the time to feel sorry. Every generation makes mistakes. SO WHAT! What’s important is that once you see the mistake then you make sure you don’t do it again, and you correct it.
    Stop being apologetic, and get with fixing this right!

    The problem we have today, is that every body likes to talk and point how things should be. But no body takes responsibility. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, AND FIX IT!

    Stop the whining. Its time to roll up the sleeves AND WORK RESPONSIBLY!

    Feeling sorry fixes nothing. Writing blogs fixes nothing. Talking fixes nothing. Arguing your opinion with someone else fixes nothing. This whole situation will only get fixed, once we HOLD POLITICIANS, PROFESSORS, TEACHERS, AND EVERY OTHER LUNATIC WARMER TO ACCOUNT FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

    The problem we have in society is that we don’t hold anyone to account! Stop voting like morons, stop following political leaders like sheep, stop demanding what you think society and the government should give, AND START WORKING/FIGHTING for TRUTH, JUSTICE and (no, I’m not doing that stupid Superman adage), VERIFIABLE FACTS.

    What kind of Society do you want to live in? One where every screw-ball idea has to be funded by the tax payer, or one where the Scientific Method is used to determine facts and that through Democracy we determine how taxes are spent.

    You feel, Paul, sorry of this nonsense! How about all those people, including children (totalling in the 100’s of thousands) that have been butchered because of the West’s insatiable appetite for resources of other countries. No pity for them?

    GET REAL PAUL! GROW A PAIR! Start putting things in perspective, and start doing some REAL GOOD, instead of some cheap talk and second rate blogging (seriously, do you really think that this blog reaches to those who really need this information? Remember most people in the world don’t have access to the Internet, and those who do, don’t even use 10% of its power, doing mostly things like chatting nonsense with their friends -alla facebook.)

    There is lots to do. Start doing it! Leave the crying and feeling sorry for those who have something to really feel sorry about, you know who I mean; those poor bastards who have lost their homes and love ones by British and American bombs, and have their national resources all stolen so that the UK and USA can sustain a standard of living that they misguidedly think have earned!

  17. Tom O permalink
    September 28, 2016 4:38 pm

    Yes, we have failed the children. My parents were not particularly educated, but they made sure I got as good an education as I could. The school curriculums were controlled by educators, and they did their best to improve it.

    Then government took over and decided what needed to be taught. We let government take over, assuming it was for the good, and turned our backs on making sure that was the case.

    Yes, we failed to insure the children were getting the best education possible and started becoming more concerned with whether or not they were getting enough variety and outside activities instead. Education became something that was less important than insuring that girls and boys had equal sports opportunities, and had equal access to traditionally oriented classes – boys in home Economics, and girls in shop.

    As variety grew, so did it in college. What once was needed to enter college wasn’t necessary, depending on the college program that you would pursue, so the fundamental requirements of arithmetic, history and science morphed into other things in their place.

    Now to many young people can’t do math without a calculator, have no understanding of basic science, have no idea what history is since only the present is important, can’t read since programs do that for them, and now don’t even have a signature since they aren’t going to be taught cursive. A world of people that can honestly be referred to as “generation “X” because that will be their signature. No problem since we will have finger print readers and iris scanners at very supermarket so they can prove who they are.

    From an educational point, we were raised on bedrock, and raised the next generation on soil. They raised the next on sand, and now they are being raised on quicksand. It’s not the current generation’s fault if they have lousy tools to work with, as in education, and it’s not their parents. It’s the fault of those of us that date back to the 1950s, because it all started to go away when we reached our majority, mostly because we became obsessed with having a better life than our parents did and giving more “junk” to our children. And let government decide what our children needed to learn. All of that just proves that it doesn’t take a community to raise kids, it takes parents that give a damn, and damn the community if it gets in the way.

  18. September 28, 2016 5:56 pm

    On the bright side, I asked my daughter (radiology tech) what her professors were saying about CAGW. She said “not much, but my physics professor says it’s complete B.S.”.

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