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Fighting Trump By The Poolside In Old Marrakesh

November 12, 2016

By Paul Homewood 

  

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https://cliscep.com/2016/11/10/fighting-trump-by-the-poolside-in-old-marrakesh/

 

A rather unsympathetic look at how our poor, grant addicted, left wing, hypocritical collection of sociologists, eco loonies and generally otherwise unemployable sandal wearers are coping with the election of The Donald:

 

Reposted from Climate Scepticism:

 

 

This is part of our occasional series of articles borrowed from the Conversation, with added footnotes.

 

Shocking and scary’: how Trump’s victory was received at the UN climate talks in Marrakech – November 10, 2016

 

tonyryanprofileby Tony Ryan Pro-vice Chancellor for Science and Director of the Grantham Centre for Sustainable Futures, University of Sheffield and Duncan Cameron Professor of Plant and Soil Biology, University of Sheffieldduncan_cameron Tony Ryan receives funding from the Grantham Foundation and Tony Ryan receives funding from the Grantham Foundation.

[I expect that means that Duncan Cameron also receives funding from the Grantham Foundation but someone copied and pasted and forgot to change the names.]

 

Over breakfast at our riad in old town Marrakech, conversation was dominated by Donald Trump’s election victory and what kind of world we had woken up to.

[Isn’t there some law in Britain against taking your sustainability professors out of school during term time for holidays in exotic locations?]

 

 

300px-riad_maroc_031← Cool calm, green and air-conditioned: a Riad in the Marrakesh medina

 

We’re here in Morocco for COP22, the latest round of UN climate change talks. Climate experts from across the world have gathered here to decide on the actual detail of the Paris Agreement which was signed last year at the previous conference, COP21.

[Really? So there’s no “actual detail” in the agreement signed last year in Paris?]

Our group from the University of Sheffield is very diverse – delegates come from India and Zimbabwe as well as Britain – yet we were all in agreement: Trump’s election is shocking and scary news for the world.

[I can see how the idea of a leader getting elected might shock and scare someone from Zimbabwe]

We arrived at the COP22 “blue zone” for delegates and were quickly approached by a French TV crew, wanting to hear our thoughts on Trump. Unsurprisingly, we said this was a disaster for the climate and a disaster for global equality.

[and unsurprisingly, that was just what the French TV crew wanted to hear. See IPCC AR6 WGII: chap. “Disastrous Effects of Elections”]

It then began to dawn on us that there was something very different about the atmosphere at COP22. When we visited Paris last year, the sense of excitement in the air was palpable. But today, things feel altogether more sombre.

[Yes, I notice this in Paris too. It’s to do with having rumbustious politics, a (relatively) unshackled press, and freedom of speech. Not so much in Marrakesh]

Trump’s assertion that climate change was a hoax “created by the Chinese” was never far from any of our minds.

[Trump is exaggerating here. He may have got the idea from newspaper reports about the insistence of the Chinese delegation at Paris COP21 on changing a “will” to a “would”. He won’t have got it from reading articles in the Conversation that’s for sure, since efforts by the indefatigable Robin Guenier and others to point out the importance of this change have been ignored.]

Swedish and American delegates discussed with us their concerns that Trump would now seek to renege on the US’s ratification of the Paris climate treaty. The Americans hoped “the system” would not let him.

[It’s not a treaty of course, but simply an agreement. Otherwise President Obama would have to get it ratified by Congress, which he can’t]

An American artist we spoke to couldn’t even express her shock. She lived in Marrakech, she told us, and her work asked questions about human nature and our existence. Now, she questioned what had happened to her home country.

[an artist who can’t express her feelings is in a pickle, for sure. Questions about human nature and our existence are hard. Better to start with an easy one, like: “What has happened to my country?” (answer: an election.)]

A Norwegian delegate and negotiator said the world needed to unite to contain right wing populism. And a member of the Libyan negotiation team, who had lived in the UK for five years, said, pessimistically, that this was just a game of democracy. For us, it feels like the endgame of neoliberal democracy.

[Not sure how you contain rightwing populism except by banning people from voting for it. Or crushing it with armed force of course. We’re not told which of Libya’s two or three governments the delegate represented, or what it was he thought to be a “game of democracy,” but since our soil and sustainability professors seem to think democracy is coming to an end anyway, I suppose it doesn’t much matter.]

We’ve seen big anti-establishment movements before – after the 1929 Wall Street crash in the US, for instance, during the rise of fascism in 1930s Germany, or in response to various more recent recessions.

[Among other big anti-establishment movements the authors forgot to mention were the English Civil War, the French and Russian Revolutions, the American War of Independence, and the anti-colonialist independence movements which freed half the world’s population from imperialism. Still, you can’t cover all the bases in one article. The important thing to get over is how jolly wrong it is to oppose the establishment]

But, as scientists, we feel that the impact of these historic events on the environment was buffered by the planet’s natural resources, which allowed economic growth to continue. In the UK, for example, the economy was rescued by the exploitation of North Sea oil. Those resources – or at least those resources we could use remotely sustainably – are now all but exhausted.

[All but exhausted? Known recoverable resources of fossil fuels now are estimated to be enough for centuries, and these estimates double every what? – few decades? As the word “recoverable” changes its meaning, so does the word “sustainable.”]

Americans have elected an anti-sustainability president, a man unwilling to face up to environmental degradation. The US people have voted for a dream based on a time past – when America was “great”, oil prices were low, and the white working class felt secure. Whether the planet has the capacity to support a new round of unsustainable consumption is highly in doubt.

[Ah yes! Those far off days when America was the world’s most powerful nation and oil prices were low. And what right do the white working class have to feel secure anyway? How dare they vote for such a dream!]

However, it was brought starkly home to us that the rest of the world feels that Brexit paved the way for Trump’s victory. As a Moroccan scientist candidly said to us: “Well, you started it.

[Yup. A British butterfly flapping itself free of a dysfunctional undemocratic European Union is bound to lead to the election of a property millionaire as President of the United States. Any climate scientist could predict that.]

To get a broader perspective, we moved from the UN delegate area to the “green zone”, where companies showcase their sustainable technologies and civil society organisations explore their role in climate change mitigation.

[We at Cliscep are pretty well acquainted with civil society organisations (or NGOs as they’re known – short for Nether Government Orifices. Exploring their own roles is what they do best, especially in Marrakesh]

Our conversations here made it apparent that this diverse community has the appetite to effect change, but will need to demand sustainability and reject economic models dependent on growth.

[“Appetite,” “demand”, “reject.” A perfect definition of the role of the orifice]

We, as a planet, now have to choose between the path of self-destruction by overconsumption or a more equitable and sustainable future.

[“We, the planet..” has a nice ring to it. It could serve as the preamble to the constitution of the World Unity government that Norwegian bloke was proposing in order to combat populism. Since there’s only one planet it would win any election with a majority of one.]

https://cliscep.com/2016/11/10/fighting-trump-by-the-poolside-in-old-marrakesh/

 

     

 

 

 

UPDATE

Two weeks later, after spilling many tears into their mint teas and upsetting their camels, the heroic ecotards returned home on their business class jets solar powered magic carpets, to continue the battle to fight the Satan Donald justify their next lot of grant funding.

Still, guys, there’s always next year to look forward to. But where’s Rochdale?

 

 

FOOTNOTE

Just to clarify, this was originally published at Climate Scepticism, so the credit goes to Geoff Chambers who wrote the piece.

50 Comments leave one →
  1. Janeane Wilbur permalink
    November 12, 2016 7:33 am

    Won’t even read this, because I am sandal-wearing, and an artist, and I totally support him.

    You’re characterizations, may be why, someone called me “Hillary!” and said “Hillary should kill herself!!!!!” when I was suicidal, and came close to that?

    Still have serious bullying of creepy stuff, and privacy invasions, and more. So please be more respectful.

    You would treat me totally different, when I dress up. When I’m in the right company, with the right opportunity, and not abused by those Hillary type of structures, I can work circles around most people, in profound ways.

    AND! I have wasted all my money as a truther to help this happen, while I am extremely ill and not working now.

    I won’t go on.

    It’s way worse and more, and I find your rhetoric, is some that supports harm of me; because people are getting very ugly in behavior at times. And does make not want to be here, and I don’t mean the U.S. (Some people read that wrong too.)

    Please improve this.

    Don’t email me again, because I have too much mail for this.

    Thank you.

    On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:55 PM, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT wrote:

    > Paul Homewood posted: “By Paul Homewood https://cliscep.com/2016/11/ > 10/fighting-trump-by-the-poolside-in-old-marrakesh/ A rather > unsympathetic look at how our poor, grant addicted, left wing, hypocritical > collection of sociologists, eco loonie” >

    • November 12, 2016 11:08 am

      ?

      BTW – If you want to stop getting emails, you have to unsubscribe

    • catweazle666 permalink
      November 13, 2016 12:27 am

      I suggest you find a safe space dear – this isn’t one, nor is it supposed to be.

      And perhaps cuddle a puppy or get a colouring book, I believe those are the established remedies for being unable to handle reality.

      Breixt won and Trump won.

      And you are just going to have to live with it.

    • Streetcred permalink
      November 13, 2016 8:26 am

      Incoherent rant from a seemingly unhinged sandal wearing “artist” . Why do they consider themselves remotely intelligent or even educated for that matter?

    • AndyG55 permalink
      November 13, 2016 9:32 am

      There was another very “confused_Jane” on Roy Spencer’s site recently..

      Is that you Jane, dearie?

    • November 13, 2016 7:46 pm

      “Won’t even read this” yet you feel obligated to comment on something you say you did not read?

      There are many ill people out there, many disappointed ones, etc. It’s called life. You either deal with it or don’t. That’s up to you. Many people here have probably been mocked and ridiculed for their beliefs. It’s how things work—people are not saints and in fact barely tolerate each other most of the time. You seem to take things very personally when what you are experiencing is just part of life.

    • November 13, 2016 10:18 pm

      Is this satire?

  2. November 12, 2016 7:54 am

    I didn’t know that the Grantham tentacles extended beyond UCL and IC into Sheffield University. Where else has he infiltrated?

    • November 12, 2016 7:54 am

      Sorry, LSE not UCL.

      • November 12, 2016 10:39 pm

        UCL is equally affected, they banned a planned conference on Geoscience as it was anti-global warming in September!

      • Steve Borodin permalink
        November 12, 2016 11:24 pm

        They also nurture simple Cox, the only professor that confuses correlation with causation.

      • catweazle666 permalink
        November 13, 2016 12:28 am

        Cox confuses a Hell of a lot more than that!

  3. Swisspeasant permalink
    November 12, 2016 7:56 am

    Well it made me laugh. But I am laughing a lot these days.
    I was laughing earlier when I thought of all the super intelligent folk who are going to have to come to terms with how they have been fooled for so long and had to be rescued by the stupid people.

    • roger permalink
      November 12, 2016 8:55 am

      Time was, before globalisation, when Sheffield was renowned for producing the sharpest knives in the box and tool steel that was without equal.
      Politicians and asset strippers worked hard throughout the nineties to export whole factories to China and it now seems that Sheffield can produce only substandard tools as exemplified above.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        November 12, 2016 10:30 am

        An Oxymoron – Sheffield Hallam MP is Nick Clegg. Perhaps I overdid it with the oxy bit?

  4. Joe Public permalink
    November 12, 2016 8:54 am

    Absolutely fabulous!

  5. Joe Public permalink
    November 12, 2016 9:14 am

    Over at CliScep, commenter Vinny Burgoo posted the link to the provisional list of participants – all 25,903 named & shamed.

    http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2016/cop22/eng/misc02p03.pdf

    • November 12, 2016 11:09 am

      Would be interesting to add up the air miles, co2 and public funds.

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      November 12, 2016 12:12 pm

      I know I shouldn’t be astonished…..but I am !!

      The brothels & hash houses will make a fortune.

  6. Gerry, England permalink
    November 12, 2016 10:34 am

    Well that brightened my grey Saturday morning. I feel for the poor artist but I have a suggestion – go paint some pictures. It’s not that hard. I even managed it at school.

    The Norwegian politicians are wallowing in leftism – and a lot of snow at the moment – but the people are much more sensible. You try and get away with stealing their fish like they do ours.

  7. November 12, 2016 11:03 am

    What’s wrong with Rochdale? Besides the dysfunctional local politics and ever expanding wind turbine landscape? Nice to get any publicity I suppose on this illustrious blog! Beer festival here tonight so not all bad.

    • John F. Hultquist permalink
      November 12, 2016 6:01 pm

      What’s wrong with Rochdale?

      Well, it is not in Asia.

      The 23rd session of the Conference of the Parties (COP 23) to the UN Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) will will meet in Asia at a location to be determined.

      The purpose of COP22 was to select a site for COP23. Sorry Rochdale.

      • CheshireRed permalink
        November 12, 2016 8:56 pm

        It may as well be in Asia….

    • Streetcred permalink
      November 13, 2016 8:29 am

      Doesn’t Borat Sagdiyev live there?

  8. Roy permalink
    November 12, 2016 11:19 am

    They should lighten up and watch this brilliant parody of the John Lewis christmas advert (a annual TV event in the UK) – https://youtu.be/Ql4YDKaKqVA (honestly, where ever your allegiance lies you can’t fail to find this funny)

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      November 12, 2016 12:07 pm

      Tremendous + a super song …thanks Roy.

    • hotscot permalink
      November 12, 2016 8:59 pm

      Utterly brilliant!

  9. The Old Man permalink
    November 12, 2016 1:00 pm

    Joe Pie puts it all in perspective.

  10. November 12, 2016 1:10 pm

    While President Trump is draining the swamp that Washington, DC has become, it is my desire that the swamps of media, public education and higher education are subject to the same gurgling sound.

    There has been more than a little pleasure in watching the left come unglued. Having believed their own scare tactics, they now find themselves hoisted on their own petards. For those of us who have been called “uneducated, deplorables (by none other than Mrs. Clinton, who added unredeemable to the list), bigots, racists, and on and on…..this victory over them is not without smiles. I, for one, plan to gloat a bit longer.

    However, more than that, it is a victory for common sense. It is a victory for “We The People” and the return of the United States Constitution. We told the establishment and the Harvard faculty lounge lizards to pound sand.

    The naysayers should note that Donald Trump has spent his career bringing projects to fruition ahead of time and under budget.

  11. Sonja A Boehmer-Christiansen permalink
    November 12, 2016 1:51 pm

    I find this most offensive

    • November 12, 2016 2:43 pm

      Excellent🙂

      What’s the weather like in Marrakesh today?

    • Dave Ward permalink
      November 12, 2016 7:29 pm

      “I find this most offensive”

      Do you know what I find “Offensive”? That you are free to complain on here, yet if I were to visit DeSmogBlog and suggest that the “Science Isn’t Settled” I would be shouted down and called a “Denialist”. I’m offended that if I don’t agree with the left/liberal/green view of things I must therefore be a Racist, Bigot, Homophobe etc, etc. I’m offended that the BBC can take money from me (under threat of a criminal record) and use it to broadcast a completely one-sided view. I’m offended that arrogant media/politicians/academics/film stars/so-called-comedians dare to suggest that I shouldn’t be allowed to vote, because I might not vote the way they want. I’m offended that generations of children have been brainwashed by leftist teaching, both in schools and universities. It was underway in the 70’s when I was a pupil, but fortunately I saw through the propaganda, and learnt to think for myself. Sadly, the same can’t be said for younger members of my family.

      Actually, I’m not really offended – I leave that to the SJW’s, Snowflakes and all the other emotionally fragile people we’ve seen throwing toys out of prams over the last few days. I am just bloody angry that it has taken this long for the rest of the population (the ones so despised by the “Elite”) to finally get a voice…

      • hotscot permalink
        November 12, 2016 9:48 pm

        @Dave Ward

        My 17 year old daughter went to bed in tears one night no more than a month ago because I explained that CO2 is a good gas, not a poison.

        Her Geography teacher is a geologist and former employee of an oil company. She has explained to thousands of students over the 7 years my daughter has been as secondary school that the planet’s oil resources are now exhausted.

        No matter how bad Trump is as POTUS, he will have done the world a favour by revealing climate change for nothing more than what it is, a natural phenomenon.

        I have never worn the hair shirt of climate change responsibility, it’s time to free our children from that bogus burden.

    • catweazle666 permalink
      November 13, 2016 12:32 am

      Tough.

      • Kestrel27 permalink
        November 13, 2016 1:06 am

        It looks to me from her Wikipedia profile that Sonja wouldn’t be much more welcome on DeSmogBlog than Dave Ward. I’m not sure what she finds offensive – the Cliscep post? Something else? It isn’t clear. Perhaps she would like to enlighten us.

    • AndyG55 permalink
      November 13, 2016 3:26 am

      I have to agree that the original could be considered to be quite offensive. (if one could be bothered to take offense)

      It shows they are NOTHING but a bunch of propaganda monkeys.

      Paul’s notes do, however, highlight the total hypocrisy of these COP meetings, in a fairly humorous way.

    • The Old Man permalink
      November 13, 2016 9:04 pm

      @ Sonja: Here’s the antidote for you. Good luck, and god bless.

      https://notonmywatch.com/?cat=1

      .

  12. November 12, 2016 3:28 pm

    On a more serious note, the folks at COP22 are trapped in a bubble. They claim to be liberals who care about everyone getting a fair deal. In fact they part of the global elite completely oblivious to the plight of people lacking their social connections.

    The Trump election is not only about their misconceptions of him, it is also their ignorance and disdain for people in the hinterland who have been left behind. The gap between rich and poor is real and unsustainable, and it produced President Trump.

    https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2016/11/11/election-in-us-flyover-country/

  13. markl permalink
    November 12, 2016 4:49 pm

    Trump replaces CO2 as the new bogeyman. He’ll be responsible for Climate Change without even mentioning fossil fuels. Excuse me while I return to gloating.

  14. John Peter permalink
    November 12, 2016 5:06 pm

    Marrakesh is another stop helped by the “western left wing elite” and stupid politicians to move $100 billion per annum from USA, Canada, Australia, EU and Japan principally to the rest of the World lead by China, India and also South Korea (as they are a developing country – true) and Obama and Cameron signed up for that. I always said that Trump was our only hope and I could not believe it when I woke up at 5AM on 9 November to note on my PC that he was winning and taking The Hill with him. What a win. He might just save us. When the revised NOAA and GISS temperature data is released later next year and University of Colerado sea level adjustments are revealed, it must reverberate in the rest of the World – at least I hope so. We need enough voters to vote out the politicians wanting to build more wind farms and solar panels before we are doomed to poverty.

    • November 13, 2016 10:27 am

      Left-leaning California, how’s that going?

      77 California cities on ‘economically challenged’ list

      State’s distressed cities home to 12 million people

      High poverty and jobless rates, low incomes cited

      California has a quarter of troubled U.S. cities

      Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article45376695.htm

      • Athelstan permalink
        November 13, 2016 5:20 pm

        CA, the dolts voted solid democrat though I’m sure not all Californians feel that way [14 Republican representatives]…….. but voting for ‘the Donald’ or for that matter any sort of presidential GOP candidate in CA is, not worth the effort.

        Moreover, it’s very, very hard to feel sympathy for idiots who continue to believe that voting for the ‘same old, same old’ will somehow and by some miracle produce a different outcome and as Einstein so pointedly alluded to, is insanity.

        “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

        The only solution the left can provide is, to stfu and to get out of the kitchen.

        Attention, to all at #Snowflake space station Marrakesh………………Please feel free to feel to take umbrage and to be as insulted for as long and much as you like, “mommy, mommy! that bad man, he took our sweeties away!”

        cor blimey, luv a duck and losers can please themselves.

  15. Swisspeasant permalink
    November 13, 2016 6:41 pm

    Just read a Guardian angst piece for a laugh and noticed that the advert was for Quantas.
    Doesn’t the Guardian have any standards?

    • November 13, 2016 6:52 pm

      A conscience is nice, but business is business!

    • AndyG55 permalink
      November 13, 2016 9:26 pm

      Who or what is Quantas?

      And what do you perceive is wrong with Quantas that the Gruniad shouldn’t use their advertisements?

      • Brett Keane permalink
        November 13, 2016 11:14 pm

        Queensland and Northern Territories Air Service.

  16. Ian permalink
    November 14, 2016 7:35 am

    Don’t get too smug, boys and girls. I attended a Remembrance service at St Paul’s yesterday and the sermon was an undisguised atttack on Trump and Brexit. From comments afterwards, it went down extremely well. I didn’t see many signs of left wingness there, but they were pretty elite and pleased with themselves. This enemy shouldn’t be underestimated – they’ve too much to lose!

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