Skip to content

Miami Beach Turning Into Modern Day Atlantis–Fake News BBC

March 27, 2017

By Paul Homewood

 

h/t QV

 

 

 

image

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08k19mn

 

The fake news BBC World at One today took the chance to add a bit of Project Climate Fear to their unashamedly anti Trump agenda, with a a piece on how rising seas are turning Miami Beach into a modern day Atlantis.

 

It starts at about 25 mins in, with Trump’s expected announcement this week to drop Obama’s Clean Power Plan. (As usual, you may not be able to access the BBC iPlayer outside the UK).

Queue Cue their correspondent from Florida, who tells us quite literally that “rising seas and flooding are turning Miami Beach into a modern day Atlantis, the city being submerged by water”

A virulently anti Trump interviewee then tells us that Miami has 30 years left, and we later learn that sea levels at Miami are rising at ten times the global rate.

 

Of course, you won’t hear any real facts on the BBC.

For instance, that the current rate of rise is 2.45mm/year, and that it has been rising at this rate or more since 1940.

 

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?stnid=8720030

They might also have mentioned that, according to Church & White’s analysis, the land there is actually sinking at a rate of 0.53mm/yr, thus accounting for a fifth of the rise.

In common with other locations on the US East Coast, sea levels have been rising steadily for the last century, as part of a perfectly natural process since the end of the Little Ice Age, as well as a glacial isostatic process.

 

Interestingly, the programme refers to all of the property development going on in Florida, with the irate anti Trump interviewee basically calling those buying condos idiots.

I suspect that those involved in building and purchasing these know a lot more about the real facts than the BBC reporter, who clearly has already made his mind up.

 

Maybe at some point in the distant future the seas might win, but the couple of millimeters a year of sea level rise in the last century don’t seem to have made much of an impression:

 

https://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A9mSs2MCX9lY6WQAWM5LBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByZmVxM3N0BGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw–?p=miami+beach+image+1930&fr=moz35#id=37&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fl7.alamy.com%2Fzooms%2F7a4b479535f748d3af93d42d9696d868%2Faerial-view-of-miami-beach-lummus-park-and-ocean-drive-florida-usa-g3cn4d.jpg&action=click

 

http://casasemmiami.com.br/lummus-park-em-miami-beach/

Lummus Park, Miami Beach – The 1930s and now.

And I very much doubt whether Obama’s Clean Power Plan will make the slightest difference either!

 

 

Advertisements
44 Comments
  1. 1saveenergy permalink
    March 27, 2017 7:11 pm

    There’s more to Miami than vice & sea level rise…start with geology, years of water abstraction & geography.
    They had the answer 2,000yrs ago –
    Matthew 7:24-27. And they shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
    And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

  2. March 27, 2017 7:26 pm

    “For instance, that the current rate of rise is 2.45mm/year, and that it has been rising at this rate or more since 1940.”
    Your link is for Ferdandina Beach but the graph is only showing an overall rate of 2.08 +/- 0.18. since 1900. How do you get the 2.45 mm current rate? Did you work it out using actual data?
    The rate for Miami itself is 2.39mm +/- 0.43mm since the 1930’s but it looks to me as if sea level hasn’t risen much at all compared to the 1950’s.
    I have emailed Nick Bryant asking for his source, although I don’t know if the email address I have used is correct.

    • March 27, 2017 9:13 pm

      2.45mm is the rate of rise over the last 50 yrs.

      The overall rate, as you say, is 2.08, but there is a whole chunk of data missing prior to 1940, so I’m not sure how meaningful that figure is

  3. CheshireRed permalink
    March 27, 2017 7:30 pm

    It’s all about controlling the catastrophic climate change message and facts don’t really come into it. They know 99% of listeners will only hear (and remember) ‘Miami’s being inundated by rising seas’. That’s their job done!

    • March 28, 2017 2:56 pm

      Currently on Radio 4: How the cuddly wildlife of Svalbard is coping with the ravages of CC, later this week, replace with the wildlife of the Galapagos islands, pass GO and collect another paycheck and expenses, ready for next weeks horrors on the CC front.

      Much of this is politics by proxy, avoiding the scrutiny of the impartiality police.

  4. Svend Ferdinandsen permalink
    March 27, 2017 7:45 pm

    It is amazing that they keep on with the rising sea scare. It is so easy to check with http://www.psmsl.org/data/obtaining/
    Even Stockholm is scared, and there the sea level is falling. They plan to raise the piers when they should dig out the harbour.

  5. Athelstan permalink
    March 27, 2017 7:57 pm

    Doesn’t Mr. Donald J. Trump spend time down there? He has some serious real estate on the Fl coast, I could look it up but………………….. this is another load of warmist bollox from the beeboids, ask Al goracle, didn’t he [and fairly recently]: put some major dosh into beach front property development – in the locale?

    And anyway Florida in parts is, sinking – ask an engineer.

  6. March 27, 2017 7:58 pm

    I wouldn’t expect anything different from the fake news department of the so-called BBC. It’s either anti-Trump or anti-Brexit or anti-CO2 or anti-fossil fuel (or various combinations, with as many as possible in one programme).

  7. Robert Jones permalink
    March 27, 2017 8:20 pm

    Nothing to do with Miami (although I know that the water table in Florida is said to be very high) but I have just received a flyer from Good Energy (goodenergy.co.uk/tg) proudly boasting of its 100% renewable energy fuel mix from sunshine, wind and rain! Surely this is blatantly fraudulent and vulnerable to legal action?

    • Joe Public permalink
      March 27, 2017 9:31 pm

      Their small print will use a phrase such as “Over the course of a year, ….”

  8. John Peter permalink
    March 27, 2017 8:25 pm

    Anyway, just wait for the BBC’s reaction when this happens tomorrow
    http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/325977-what-to-watch-for-in-trumps-climate-change-order
    Reportedly the cancellaton of the Clean Power Plan and the infamous present cost % built into all administration work to justify the CO2 reduction parody.
    Whatever has been thrown at Trump will be childs play compared with the left wing reaction to this.

  9. manicbeancounter permalink
    March 27, 2017 9:24 pm

    A major reason for alarming prophesies in the Miami-Dade area was due to The Sea Level Rise Task Force. Set up in July 2013 and reporting in September 2016. It was chaired by Harold Wanless a senior geology professor in Miami, who for years had maintained without evidence, that sea levels could rise by up 81 inches (or 2060 mm) by 2100. To achieve this the average rate of sea level rise from 2016 to 2100 would have to be nine times the current rates. That implies in the 2090’s sea level rise being around 35mm a year, or 15 times the rate rise at Key West, which was a baseline for the projections. Below is the Key West data for the last 100 years. Anyone see the underlying acceleration in the historical data?

    https://manicbeancounter.com/2016/11/19/results-of-sea-level-rise-extremism-in-miami-dade/

  10. March 27, 2017 9:52 pm

    The Miami tourist board might want a word with the biased BBC.

  11. John F. Hultquist permalink
    March 27, 2017 9:53 pm

    Look closely at the 2 photos of Lummus Park.
    The green or “now” one shows beach conservation techniques.
    They have replaced the flattened sandy beach with a more natural “foredune.”
    The raised dune is planted with native plants and fenced. Crossing paths are designed to allow passage and prevent damage to the dune. Waves can roll onto the beach (dissipating energy) while the vegetated dune intercepts energy from higher waves.
    When exceptional waves breach the dune it can be repaired. This would happen naturally over time, but this can be speeded up by physically reforming and replanting.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_dune_stabilization

    Miami is located on a flat sandy and swampy peninsula ( almost island

    … and dealing with the processes of dynamic water comes with the territory.

    • John F. Hultquist permalink
      March 27, 2017 9:55 pm

    • March 28, 2017 2:32 pm

      North Fort Lauderdale/Pompano just restored ~8 miles of beach about 45 miles north of Miami Beach. Roughly doubled the beach width. Sand sweeps south, and piles up on the north ends of all the inlets to the Intercoastal Waterway. The south ends get starved over time. I live directly on it. Foredunes planted in sea oats and seagrape the whole distance, with cut throughs for beach access. Our 10 acre two condo tower complex had planted foredunes, and they still doubled the width and planted the new ocean facing side. In the ~mile south of us there are three public parks with parking, and three other public access points with offsite parking two blocks away. That makes 6 cut throughs.

  12. March 27, 2017 10:21 pm

    Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
    Reading this P.Homewood piece makes me more proud than ever to be a “climate” sceptic.

    Proud, because as a non-scientist and mere simpleton, even I can examine and recognise the BBC’s disgraceful effort to spread climate fear and scientific BS via the “Miami Atlantis” threat.

    Another classic example of why you cannot believe ANYTHING about “climate change” or “global warming” from the mainstream climate-obsessed sycophant media.

    —-

    Dear BBC,

    An excellent piece via WUWT from guest blogger Kip Hansen should help to unwind your Atlantis, global-warming-induced, sea-level rise/flooding hysteria.

    https://climatism.wordpress.com/2016/12/07/miamis-vice/

    Sincerely,

    Mr simpleton. Aka, 5 minutes of unpaid research.

  13. Les Johnson permalink
    March 27, 2017 10:40 pm

    SLR is not the problem in Miami Beach. Its civil engineering. Much of the development is BELOW high tide mark, and always has. This reconstruction is from a 1984 flood, using NOAA Sea Level Viewer

    • March 28, 2017 2:44 pm

      Almost all of the light blue is fill dredged from Biscayne bay (left side of image). 2/3 of present Miami Beach is artificial. The orginal barrier island can be seen on the Atlantic (right side of image) shown in green. Because of the cost, the fill was about 4 feet lower than it should have been at the time to account for spring tides, and is still subsiding. The minor flooding is during spring tides, and could be prevented by installing 96 one way check valves on the storm drains, as has already been done on the Los Olas Isles in Fort Lauderdale, all also fill built too low dredged from Fort Lauderdale harbor in the 1950s. Miami Beach has been arguing about whether to pay for the check valves decades, because nobody else wants to pay for their initial stupidity and present posh life style. Any flooding images are a purely self inflicted wound having nothing to do with SLR.

      For those interested, Kip Hansen had a much longer illustrated explanatory guest post over at Climate Etc last year.

  14. Randy Watson permalink
    March 27, 2017 10:59 pm

    I have lived on Miami Beach for 20 years. It is a series of barrier islands, enhanced by a real estate developer a hundred years ago. Now after 100 years of ongoing MSL rise, we need a little more enhancement. Another 100 years of 2 or 3 mm / year and I’ll be dead or a cyborg either way, depriving cheap reliable power to the poor won’t change a thing.

  15. tom0mason permalink
    March 28, 2017 12:51 am

    If you want to here real false news listen to the BBC World Service (Weird Service) where American lefty voices are everywhere reiterating ‘climate change’/antiCO2, pro-Women, pro-Islamic, pro-gay, pro-green-politics, anti-Trump, anti-coal, anti-Putin, anti-Market, etc… ringing out from Britain’s official broadcaster.
    If it were not for the periodic station announcement anyone would think it was a North American left-wing political outlet with British guest speakers.

    Balanced output or objective reporting and any idea ‘Nation Shall Speak Truth Unto to Nation’ is just an ill-fitting cover for this pit of left-wing green snakes.

    • tom0mason permalink
      March 28, 2017 12:54 am

      Hear not here!
      If you want to hear real false news….

    • March 28, 2017 5:36 am

      No thanks, BBC1, BBC2 and Radio4 are more than enough fake news.

  16. March 28, 2017 12:53 am

    I have an idea. It is a revolutionary idea. I will be known for ever ….. if the alarmists follow it.

    Every projection, of any kind, HAS TO have a BACKWARDS projection for at least the last 10 years. If you say disaster is coming by 2050, then your graph/pattern that leads to disaster in 2050 has to begin 10 years ago, i.e. 2007. Obviously, as skeptics know, the “projected” position 10 years ago – the backwards projection of the pattern – WILL NOT reflect what was happening or the situation 10 years ago.

    The purpose of the exercise is to force the alarmists to explain what is DIFFERENT today AND IN THE FUTURE about what was going on 10 years ago. This they will be unable to do.

    Would Arctic sea ice projections survive? No. Nothing would.

    For a trend to continue one must first explain why the trend first developed AND why it is not a short-term trend caused by short-term (or even long-term) forces AND it will will not stop but continue to the projected future.

    I don’t expect to be world-renown any time soon.

    P.S. I did come up with the Trenberth Effect (Positive and Negative) but that hasn’t caught on yet.

  17. Broadlands permalink
    March 28, 2017 2:19 am

    Suddenly, everywhere it’s “Fake News”… on almost any topic. Can someone please tell me (us?) who are these arbiters, judges and editors of “True News”? Who are these ‘guardians’ of truth? Why should anyone trust them… especially with the data? Do they have names and credentials to be such imposing and important persons? Are the seas rising or is the “fake news” about it rising?

    • tom0mason permalink
      March 28, 2017 6:36 am

      Fake news is all the news that is not a report of the verified facts.
      Instead these days the news amounts to a recital of an emotionally spiked story, stuffed full of opinions and hypotheses, sometimes mini factoids are inserted to make it resemble news. On TV and radio these emotional essays are usually heavily edited and have music or sound effects added to emphasize the emotional content.
      At no time are the employees of these news agencies encouraged check facts, or to only clearly report the verified facts. News now is required to be sensationalized with flights of fancy of possible outcomes and lots of opinions.
      Most news agencies appear to have a mandate to ensure the listener, reader, or viewer get the (political) message and are not left to think of any alternative.

      In times of war this technique was called grey(or gray) propaganda. and was encouraged by most governments.

      • nigel permalink
        March 28, 2017 9:40 am

        “Any customer can have a car painted any colour he wants so long as it is black.”

      • Broadlands permalink
        March 28, 2017 1:27 pm

        “Fake news is all the news that is not a report of the verified facts.”

        Herein THE problem with “climate change”? Those “verified facts” continually change. They are adjusted, re-adjusted. Models are “tweaked” and re-tweaked”.

      • March 28, 2017 2:17 pm

        The problem is, when the source of the “facts” is an organisation which is itself supplying fake information (e.g. BBC or NOAA & NASA) it is difficult to disprove.

  18. Stonyground permalink
    March 28, 2017 6:53 am

    Homophone error in the OP, “Queue their correspondent from Florida…” should read “Cue their correspondent from Florida”.

  19. Athelstan permalink
    March 28, 2017 7:30 am

    This will tickle yer ribs me hearties, I nearly fell off me breakfast table chair giggling maniacally, at that:

    Commenting, a spokesman for the Russell Group said: “Our universities take research integrity seriously and work continuously to help staff and students maintain high standards of research.

    “The UK has a global reputation for the quality of our scientific research. This is not least because our members are rigorous in their approach to research integrity.”

    You’d have to have a heart of stone not to guffaw at that………..”research integrity” – seriously?

    how la-di-dah bollocks can it get?

    Does this also mean that statistically speaking the models show that, of post modern reseach and not least in clim-astrology deparments all of their prognostication = 97% BS?

    • nigel permalink
      March 28, 2017 8:47 am

      “…sea level rates at Miami Beach are rising at ten times global rates…”

      How does that work then? How does sea-level rise become concentrated in one bit of the sea? I thought water “found its own level.”

      • 1saveenergy permalink
        March 28, 2017 11:40 am

        nigel, you are thick..
        It’s magic water driven by a magic gas.

        So who should we believe… Science or
        the BBC (who inflate the figures x13 to make a story).

        Actually water can ‘lump up’ locally for a number of reasons – Gravitational forces (moon & sun), barometric pressure, wind, Coriolis effect, earthquakes (tsunami), but these are all local-ish & short term.

        Long term, we are having a tiny continuous rise.

  20. March 28, 2017 11:26 am

    On the 7:00 am news ca. 25 minutes ago, Tuesday, March 28. President Trump will go to the EPA Headquarters this morning to sign his executive order undoing Obama’s executive order.

  21. March 28, 2017 11:58 am

    Many years ago prior the the CO2 obsession, I took London visitors down through the bridges of the Thames and past the Tower of London in my boat.
    At high tide Traitors Gate, the water access to the Tower is flooded and now bricked up and I was sometimes asked why the Norman’s built the gate below the high tide level.
    I will not insult the intelligence by explaining the reasons and cause here.
    Images of the flooded Gate may be found on: Wiki/ traitors Gate.
    Meanwhile I suspect the BBC will sometime divert our attention from this to the need to upgrade the Thames Barrier due to rising CO2 levels and the disastrous consequences of a flooded London.
    Miami——London? False news knows no boundaries.

  22. johninboston permalink
    March 28, 2017 12:50 pm

    Given there are about three Trump towers in that area I doubt the president would impose policies that would leave his ventures submerged. When the NY Times rails against sea level rise, my response is always the same: why aren’t you moving your headquarters to higher lands?

  23. March 28, 2017 3:06 pm

    “As usual, you may not be able to access the BBC iPlayer outside the UK”
    That only applies to TV and some sports/music radio content.
    Most BBC radio is available free worldwide.
    …cos it’s brainwashing

  24. March 28, 2017 3:55 pm

    Almost no alarmists tweeted the story.. Just a BBC TV news editor. Maybe his special friend ?https://www.twitter.com/rachelkennedy84/status/846338570788982784

  25. March 28, 2017 6:02 pm

    BBC got it from Guardian Atlantic City and Miami Beach: two takes on tackling the rising waters
    no comments allowed) & SPONSORED by Skoll Foundation
    (where the BBC’s head of DieselsRpaedos campaign also works)
    “The rising ocean, fed by melting glaciers and the expansion of warming water, is piling up water along America’s entire eastern seaboard. ”
    Article contains only small seg from an authority source
    “These flooding events have increased seven-fold in Atlantic City since the 1950s, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration” NOAA
    Atlantic City “The casinos and boardwalk are protected ”

    The Miami bit
    \\Valencia Gunder calls this phenomenon “climate gentrification”//
    \\Should the seas rise by 6ft*, 13 million Americans in coastal areas will have to relocate by the end of this century, according to recent research.// (way above IPCC estimate))
    The Miami bit quotes no authority source, Gdn probably source is
    March 10 Miami Real Estate paper
    \\He said there’s already been a 1-foot rise in sea levels since 1930 and some residents on Miami Beach are not going to wait for levels to go higher.//

    JANUARY 28 Miami Beach to begin new $100 million flood prevention project in face of sea level rise
    After raising streets “will be an average of two feet higher than it is now.”

  26. Andy DC permalink
    March 29, 2017 10:30 pm

    Miami has had incredibly good fortune to not be directly hit by a CAT 4 or CAT 5 hurricane since at least 1950. When the inevitable happens, the long overdue hurricane will cause enormous destruction. At that point, all the 24/7 “fake news” stations will go into overdrive, blaming a normal Florida weather occurance on Donald Trump and evil climate skeptics.

Comments are closed.

%d bloggers like this: