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Millions of smart meters may need replacing due to IT blunder

May 6, 2017

By Paul Homewood

 

h/t mikewaite

 

 

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Millions of smart meters installed in British households under the Government’s flagship scheme may need to be replaced due to an IT bungle.

For the first time major energy suppliers have admitted that some of the 8 million "first generation" smart meters fitted in households are incompatible with a new nation al communications network, which links their systems to the devices.

A row has broken out after the government last night denied that the meters would need to be replaced.

Estimates show a worst case scenario in which every smart meter has to be replaced would add as much as £100 to every UK household’s energy bill, although sources said this was unlikely.

Meters not connected to the system "go dumb" when consumers switch energy suppliers to get a better deal, meaning they are no better than traditional meters as customers have to rely on estimated bills.

Under the Government’s £11bn smart meter programme every household in the UK will have been offered a device by 2020. Energy suppliers which do not comply face heavy fines. ….

A senior source at one major energy supplier said: "We have a smart meter trilemma: if we don’t roll out smart meters we can be fined. If we do, we know we could be offering a sub-par consumer experience. And all the while we’re told by BEIS to never mention the costs."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/05/millions-smart-meters-may-need-replacing-due-blunder/

 

All of the comments at the Telegraph have so far been strongly anti-smart meters.

As this one points out, it is an outright lie that the meters are “free”, as the cost is being added to everybody’s bills regardless.

 

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At £11bn, this works out at more than £400 per household.

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18 Comments
  1. May 6, 2017 10:31 am

    Ah, yes, but, as no doubt Stalin would have said, it is all for the common good.

  2. May 6, 2017 10:46 am

    The telling words are:
    “We have a smart meter trilemma: if we don’t roll out smart meters we can be fined. If we do, we know we could be offering a sub-par consumer experience. And all the while we’re told by BEIS to never mention the costs.”
    There are many civil servants who should be serving time at Her Majesty’s Pleasure.

  3. Graeme No.3 permalink
    May 6, 2017 10:52 am

    If these meters were of real benefit to the public, then there would be not need to make their installation compulsory. Nor charge more than a nominal amount because suppliers would use them as an incentive to change to them.
    And if they become “dumb” when customers change suppliers, everybody should change regardless of much benefit in order to deny the bureaucrats their longed for “control”.

  4. Adrian permalink
    May 6, 2017 11:11 am

    Looked in vain on Broadcasting Blatant Crap website, not there strangely, but this is:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20170504-there-are-diseases-hidden-in-ice-and-they-are-waking-up

    And it’s a corker

    • Tim Hammond permalink
      May 6, 2017 2:22 pm

      The chances that ancient bacteria and viruses that have never come across humans would be a problem for humans is absolutely tiny. And the rest of the article seems to be concerned with diseases we know about, like smallpox and anthrax.

  5. May 6, 2017 11:17 am

    This whole process is nothing less than a stealth tax divorced from income and thus of greater burden upon the poor.
    Meanwhile it is the energy suppliers, as the tax collectors who get the blame. Cunning politics methinks. — Creative Austerity?

  6. May 6, 2017 11:20 am

    My daughter-in-law was offered a smart meter, if it was within 5 metres.
    Why this stipulation?

    • Gerry, England permalink
      May 7, 2017 11:43 am

      Within 5 metres of what?

      • May 8, 2017 6:37 am

        From memory, within 5 metres of her dwelling. I’ll get exact wording today, if I can.

  7. Robert Fairless permalink
    May 6, 2017 11:23 am

    We know that the so-called smart meters are of little or no value to the householder. This hugely expensive folly is the product of a whimsical brainless politician. It reminds one of the thinking behind the Climate Change Act 2008 which effectively ruined a once profitable energy industry.
    Common sense , profit and pragmatism have been abandoned in favour of false science and wilful political correctness. The same sort of thing happened in the Soviet Union prior to its bankruptcy and its inevitable demise. It’s when you give power to bureaucrats who are brain dead except for their belief in pseudo science garnered through a third-rate education.
    Britain achieved its “Greatness” and London became the largest and most profitable city in the world through its advantage of cheap energy (i.e.coal) and the scientific and engineering inventiveness arising from if. It now seems unlikely that this will happen again.

  8. Harry Passfield permalink
    May 6, 2017 11:27 am

    I reported the ‘Leccy and Gaz’ ads to the ASA on the basis that they were telling people that they didn’t know what their bills were, which was patently a lie. They turned down the complaint on the grounds that someone somewhere would not know.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      May 6, 2017 11:58 am

      BTW: Does anyone else find that at the DT the ‘more’ comments does not load ‘due to an error’? I just get the first three or four and that’s that.

    • Ex-expat Colin permalink
      May 6, 2017 1:04 pm

      Thats crap from them. Everybody named against the meter(s) gets a a bill periodically and would be well aware of the tariffs/costs…rising perpetually.

      • Ex-expat Colin permalink
        May 6, 2017 1:07 pm

        Also that Leccy and Gaz advertising campaign is pretty much harassment along with the begging for cats, dogs, tigers and WTF else. All good reasons to switch the digital bollox off.

  9. Ex-expat Colin permalink
    May 6, 2017 1:23 pm

    Was checking my First Utility tariff offerings today. Includes a Cosy thermo controller on one of them. I note that the meter standing charges have jumped at least 10p a day for both meters on Tariffs covering 18 months and up. I have ignored installation offers for Smart meters and am wondering if I get nailed for that…somehow.

    The Cosy BS I don’t need because I have a standard thermostat that works perfectly. The Cosy cost saving claim is false anyway.

  10. tom0mason permalink
    May 7, 2017 12:49 am

    Meter, meter on the wall,
    The suppliers best rip-off for us all!

  11. Gerry, England permalink
    May 7, 2017 11:42 am

    Why do they continue to perpetuate the lie that ‘customers have to rely on estimated bills.’? A customer with a functioning brain would submit regular readings, say every month, just as I do. In fact, some companies actually ask you to submit readings.

  12. May 8, 2017 9:41 am

    Reblogged this on ajmarciniak.

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