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GWPF Lodges ASA Complaint Over False Claims In Offshore Wind Campaign

October 6, 2017

By Paul Homewood
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Press Release from the GWP

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London, 6 October: The Global Warming Policy Forum (GWPF) has lodged a formal complaint with the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) concerning the current poster campaign for offshore wind at Westminster tube station.

The campaign was launched by what the media has described as a “coalition of companies and civil society organisations” (including Dong Energy, GE, ScottishPower Renewables, Siemens Gamesa, SSE, Vattenfall, Greenpeace, Marine Conservation Society, and WWF).

The campaign posters claim that “The price paid for electricity from offshore wind farms has fallen by 50% over the last five years.”

This is untrue. In most cases the prices paid for electricity from the UK’s offshore wind fleet have not fallen at all, and though there were small cuts to subsidies for new offshore projects built from 2015 on, this amounted to a reduction of around 5%.

The GWPF’s complaint shows that the campaign is playing fast and loose with the facts. The ads are deliberately misleading MPs and the wider public into thinking that existing wind farms have been cutting their prices. In fact, the allegedly lower prices are only related to auction bids in so-called Contracts for Difference which apply to tentative future wind projects that will not start generating until 2021/2022 and may in fact never be built — or never generate at these low prices.

As a recent study has shown, the capital costs of new offshore wind do not appear to be falling and may even be rising as they move into deeper waters. The CfD bids made are just investor speculations on future policy changes.

Dr Peiser, the director of the GWPF, said:

“The claims in the Westminster offshore wind campaign are some of the most blatant distortions of the truth that I have seen in pro-wind advertising. The most that can be said is that the industry hopes it may be able to cut its costs and prices by 2022. I hope so too, but it is highly unlikely.”

Dr Peiser added:

“This campaign is deliberately aimed at MPs, peers and other decision makers. The wind industry and green campaigners owe them a public apology. This is a shameful piece of spin.”

https://www.thegwpf.com/gwpf-lodges-asa-complaint-over-false-claims-in-offshore-wind-campaign/

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35 Comments
  1. October 6, 2017 9:50 am

    I’m sure it will not happen but a fitting punishment would be to replace the advert with one double the size, for at least twice as long, showing the true cost of wind generation vs fossil fuel generation.

    • HotScot permalink
      October 6, 2017 10:07 am

      Why restrict it to twice as long?

      The truth has no statute of limitation.

  2. Joe Public permalink
    October 6, 2017 9:51 am

    So the damage has been done; gullible MPs & others soak up the FakeFacts.

    The advertiser(s) gets a slap slap on the hand & told to not repeat that particular false claim.

  3. Robert Jones permalink
    October 6, 2017 10:01 am

    But it is still important to challenge false claims!

  4. AlecM permalink
    October 6, 2017 10:23 am

    J’accuse

    Cess 1976 made a fundamental Physics’ mistake – to claim OLR/theoretical ground IR emission was Earth’s radiative emissivity. This was puerile and claimed falsely increased ground IR emission absorbed by the atmosphere by 40%.

    Also in 1976, NASA claimed this was offset by an opposite flow negative convection, which is impossible. Hansen later admited this was a ‘fudge’. So GISS has admitted the 1976 fraud.

    To hide the fraud, which was obvious to any professional, the Met. Office devised a fake Kirchhoff’s claim based on faulty cloud physics, that also creates false positive feedback. The person responsible for this frauds was Reading Universities’ late husband of Julia Slingo. There is a hitherto undiscovered increase of extinction coefficient in rain clouds missed by Hansen in 1969. This gives fake positive feedback when in reality low level cloud removal of latent heat from the surface plus peculiar properties of 16 – 23 micron water vapour nearly exactly offset GHG warming.

    So, we have a story of deliberate fraud in climate modelling since 1976. It is proven. Reality is now entry to a new LIA as tsi falls.

  5. diogenese2 permalink
    October 6, 2017 10:31 am

    perhaps this would put the matter into perspective;

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/wind-turbines-are-neither-clean-nor-green-and-they-provide-zero-global-energy/

    expanded today by Kenneth Richard at Pierre Gosselin’s site

    http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.mYVnkuFS.dpbs

    All this is basic and irrefutable. It is almost incomprehensible that seemingly intelligent people can be so deliberately myopic.

    • NeilC permalink
      October 6, 2017 11:07 am

      The trouble is, our government is full of completely ignorant people. We are in effect run by the likes of greenpi$$ and WWF who lie about just about everything, from polar bear numbers, and penguins, but they never mention the number of birds and bats killed by highly subsidised windmills.

      What makes matters worse is that the liars are partly funded out of grants from tax payers and misleading adverts for donations.

      • Sheri permalink
        October 6, 2017 12:12 pm

        Same in the US. Wyoming’s moron governor wants to expand wind energy to “diversify” our economy. Read that as “Please California, a billionaire in another state and shaft the residents of this backward state”. If anyone knows of someone selling perpetual motion machines or time machines, elected fools are more than willing to spend your money on these. The only question remains “Why are the idiots elected in the first place?”. I think we know the answer to that (and the answer is not “blowing in the wind”). Stupid, uneducated, greedy people get the government they deserve.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        October 6, 2017 12:59 pm

        Can’t fault your first sentence. I can’t think of any enlightened ones these days as the odds on May going are tumbling. Who will go first – Theresa May or Ronald Koeman?

        Sadly governments like to keep themselves busy and can’t stop meddling in things where they usually end up making things worse. I look forward to the energy cap where I hope – finally – that the energy companies will make it clear the government taxes they are forced to add to our bills.

        Interesting piece as ever on JoNova as Australian sales drop, especially in discretionary spending in restaurants and cafes, has seen biggest drop since 2009. Electricity bills rose by 20% in July – anyone see a connection? (pardon the pun).

  6. Max Sawyer permalink
    October 6, 2017 10:57 am

    Let’s see if the ASA is truly independent.

    • NeilC permalink
      October 6, 2017 11:11 am

      I did lodge a complaint to ASA last year about an advert by WWF indicating polar bears were in serious decline. I pointed out a couple of papers by some Canadian expert and Susan Crockford.

      They ASA asked them to change their advert, I never saw it again but I guess by the time it was removed they had managed to get a load of donations.

      • Sheri permalink
        October 6, 2017 12:13 pm

        Guess at least the complaint may have reduced the load of donations. That’s something anyway. Good for you complaining to the ASA. Most people don’t seem to care.

  7. protectthis permalink
    October 6, 2017 1:09 pm

    When the power provided is unreliable and intermittent, it is highly irresponsible to quote costs without mentioning the cost of back-up power. The issue with backup power is that it becomes increasingly expensive as wind gains market share and perverts the market with zero marginal cost energy. This drives a lot of baseload power out of business such that more expensive power is sourced. This is in a fossil fuel backup scenario. If we contemplate battery backup, the answer is more troubling because sufficient backup cannot be built to cover for the multi-week periods when the wind will not blow sufficiently. All of the cobalt in the world can’t build the capacity required.

    • October 6, 2017 9:44 pm

      As someone said, it’s the parasites consuming the host.

  8. Ron Ferguson permalink
    October 6, 2017 4:45 pm

    A 126 mt high turbine is situated 320 mt due west of my home by a major UK company wishing to promote itself as ‘green’. Faceless unaccountable council planners who permit this to happen, defend their action and state this does not have a significant effect on my amenity or house value to affect banding. Developers have identified councils which are unable to challenge them effectively, and the council capitulates. Planning permission is granted, developers sell consented planning applications for a quick profit. Developers then wind their company up and start afresh under a new name to prevent future actions.
    When will our politicians wise up?

  9. October 6, 2017 5:09 pm

    It’s a shame to see the Marine Conservation Society sign up for this. Whatever else can be said of offshore wind turbines there is clear harm to the wildlife via uncertain numbers of bird strikes and noise pollution in the construction phase possibly bewildering marine cetaceans… if they feel that strongly about CO2 maybe they should advocate a solution that does not damage the one thing they are supposed to be protecting. *_*

  10. MrGrimNasty permalink
    October 6, 2017 6:10 pm

    The Rampion wind farm has ruined the seascape (after the lost sleep and nuisance from the piling noise). On a walk down from Ferring nearly the entire visible horizon is windmills, by the time you get to Worthing half the sea is still windmills. Utter vandalism.
    BBC South Today just reports this all as an amazing ‘success’ allowing EON/contractors/green pressure groups to spout half-truths and complete untruths unchallenged.

  11. Bitter&twisted permalink
    October 6, 2017 6:59 pm

    I would love to see Greenp1ss, WTF and the assorted green energy subsidy-suckers prosecuted for fraud.
    Because that is what they commit on a daily basis.

    • Ann Grey permalink
      October 6, 2017 8:49 pm

      You are correct it is fraud, and anyone who provides facts and evidence to expose the truth about wind power is labelled uncaring about the enviroment of our planet. The lies and deceit of the turbine lobby will be realised one day, and then the politicians will have to explain how they were so easily duped.

      • Bitter&twisted permalink
        October 7, 2017 7:46 am

        Because most of them are Oxford PPE graduates.
        This degree is the greatest destroyer of common sense known to man.
        This will be their excuse.

  12. October 7, 2017 4:56 pm

    With Blair’s placeman (‘Lord’) Chris Smith calling the shots at the ASA, what chance of a fair hearing? Given he dismissed complaints about DECC’s ‘Bedtime Story’ TV ad which contained the most egregious scaremongering. Still good on GWPF for lodging the complaint.

  13. J Martin permalink
    October 7, 2017 5:49 pm

    Off topic I’m afraid, but the Guardian is claiming record September temperatures for Australia. Yet I thought I’d heard that it had been quite cold out there recently.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/05/sweltering-september-smashes-australias-temperature-records

    • Gerry, England permalink
      October 8, 2017 11:36 pm

      Huge amount of temperature fraud committed by the BOM means that their records are worthless. Jennifer Marohasy is pushing for a parliamentary inquiry into the long list of BOM frauds.

  14. J Martin permalink
    October 7, 2017 5:55 pm

    According to the Guardian a climate scientists by the name of Sophie Lewis said that;

    “actual extreme weather being seen as almost impossible without the influence of greenhouse gases.” !

    This must rank as one of the most ridiculous statements anyone has ever made.

  15. manicbeancounter permalink
    October 7, 2017 10:05 pm

    The complaint made by the GWPF is about the claimed cost reductions. As a former beancounter (and as one who still advises beancounters on technical issues) it seems the complaint is pretty clear-cut. However, I believe that it will take up to a year for the Advertising Standards Authority to reach a decision. This is not because the ASA are inefficient or incompetent. The reason is that the vested interests of Greenpeace and the WWF will throw all sorts of spurious arguments to stop a rational decision being reached. This claim is based on the experience the ASA had with Friends of the Earth when they tried to raise funds on the basis of a leaflet making a lot of unsupported claims on fracking.
    https://manicbeancounter.com/2017/01/08/friends-of-the-earth-distorting-the-evidence-fracking-in-the-uk/

    Even worse, the FOE distorted the statement made by the ASA, causing ASA Chief Executive Guy Parker, to take the unusual step of setting the record straight.
    https://manicbeancounter.com/2017/01/06/friends-of-the-earth-still-perverting-the-evidence-for-fracking-harms/

    What the ASA are up against are dogmatists who will never accept that their distortions and falsehoods are wrong. Like the worst internet trolls, they will rebut their false beliefs by never accepting they are wrong, repeating the claims ad nauseum, discouraging people from comparing with alternative perspectives and always getting the last word.

  16. manicbeancounter permalink
    October 7, 2017 11:02 pm

    The climate alarmists claim that climate denial is funded by corporate interests, particularly Exxon, is put into context by this advertising. Whatever the truths of global warming, or the truth-claims of this advertising, what you have is powerful corporations who profit from the rigged energy markets teaming up with environmentalist groups to lobby government. This is to maintain policies that are at the expense of the consumer.
    (The energy companies may be getting the support of the eco-fanatics to head-off price controls which have arisen primarily through Government Policy and not through their oligopolistic position distorting the energy market.
    This is for policies which aim at reducing global GHG emissions to near zero in a few decades. A policy that will fail because countries representing the vast majority of the global population have no intention of sacrificing the economic growth of their countries because of some climate change doomsayers in the rich countries.
    https://manicbeancounter.com/2017/09/27/the-policy-gap-in-achieving-the-emissions-goals/

    • Nigel S permalink
      October 8, 2017 9:15 am

      The environmentalists are also funded by the Government to lobby the Government!

      • Gerry, England permalink
        October 8, 2017 11:33 pm

        Funded by us, the taxpayers, don’t you mean, to lobby for increases in our electricity prices.

      • Nigel S permalink
        October 9, 2017 9:43 am

        Yes of course, the ‘Government’ has no money of its own. The ‘astroturf’ campaigns it funds to give spurious justification for its mad policies and the ‘charities’ it has bought with our money are major scandals.

  17. Green Sand permalink
    October 8, 2017 9:58 am

    Dear Jillian repeating the lie in today’s Torygraph

    “The cost of offshore wind power has halved at a faster rate than anticipated by the industry itself”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/10/07/green-power-energise-british-industrial-growth/

  18. October 8, 2017 12:42 pm

    Maybe The Global Warming Policy Forum (GWPF) could more easily pursue the decades-long, continual lie perpetrated by the wind industry of over-representing the delivery capacity of windfarms by 20%.

    They’ve deceived investors, the media, our politicians, environmentalist bodies – Greenpeace; WWF; FoE – bill-paying commerce, business and home owners, for these many decades:

    https://smart-and-fabb.blogspot.co.uk/2017/09/moray-east-offshore-windfarm-are.html?view=sidebar

  19. MrGrimNasty permalink
    October 8, 2017 6:57 pm

    Country File promoting the same car/solar/windmills/storage nonsense today. Only vested interests spouting the same nonsense – “all energy analysts agree wind is the cheapest” or something like that (when iplayer has it I’ll get an accurate quote).

    • Gerry, England permalink
      October 8, 2017 11:39 pm

      Good reason not the watch Country File these days. Long ago there used to be a farming programme on BBC but obviously they hate farmers these days.

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