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Trump Visits Asia

November 11, 2017

By Paul Homewood

 

 Map of Trup's tour of Asia

 

Trump’s in the middle of his Asia visit, and I doubt if any of the leaders he meets will be lecturing him on climate change!

 

According to the Global Coal Plant Tracker website, his hosts, Japan, South Korea, China, Vietnam and the Philippines, have 174 GW of coal fired capacity already under construction, which will increase their existing capacity by 17%. All will see big increases in coal power capacity in the next few years.

 

 

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https://endcoal.org/global-coal-plant-tracker/reports/

 

These five countries account for more than half the global total of under construction.

In addition, they have another 198 GW at various stages of pre-construction. Previous experience suggests that about half of this will actually end up being built.

Of course, with the exception of Japan, these countries can do as they please, as, being classified as “developing Countries”, the Paris Agreement places no obligations on them whatsoever to cut emissions of CO2.

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  1. Jackington permalink
    November 11, 2017 3:01 pm

    two cheers for the BBC Today programme this morning (about 31:05 in) having the audacity to have climate sceptic (and non scientist) Myron Ebell talking about why the Paris Accord is pointless and why the USA is right to pull out of it. Only to be followed by the Gratham Institute’s Joanna Haigh to dismiss Mr Ebell’s views as nonsense, laughable and to be ignored without saying why. She did go on to say that “price of renewables is plummeting”! Of course without any challenge from Ms Hussein.

    • A C Osborn permalink
      November 11, 2017 3:57 pm

      That is their idea of a “Balanced Debate”.

      Paul, did you notice that apart from the 2 eastern European countries who are both Rebels, especially Poland, the only other European country in the list is that paragon of Climate Virtue and enforcer of EU Rules Germany.
      Total Hypocrites.

    • November 11, 2017 6:54 pm

      “price of renewables is plummeting” – excellent, the current onerous subsidies can be reduced and then scrapped, starting next week – no?

    • quaesoveritas permalink
      November 11, 2017 7:22 pm

      Personally I didn’t think Myron Ebell made a very good sceptic case.
      Also I noticed that whenJoanna Haigh made the comment that temperature predictions of computer models had been “bang on” went unchallenged.
      The problem is,nobody ever discusses the facts in detail, only opinions.

      • Tom Dowter permalink
        November 12, 2017 6:39 am

        Anyone who believes that the performance of the models is bang on has to be seriously delusional. Indeed, one of the best reasons for being skeptical about the AGW story peddled by the greenies is the poor performance of the models.

        Unfortunately, the models don’t even agree all that well with each other, let alone with the observations. There is no one model that fits the observations for more than a few years at a time.

        About the best that can be said is that the observations nearly, but not quite, fit within the envelope provided by the complete ensemble of the models. However, this is not saying much. One can even fit a strong cooling trend into this envelope for the whole of the twentieth century!

        It looks highly probable that CO2 is not the only cause of long term warming – and it might not even be a cause at all. Sadly, we don’t know what the culprit is. It is probably this failure to name the other offender(s) which has given the AGW meme such legs.

      • quaesoveritas permalink
        November 12, 2017 12:56 pm

        I have just updated my global temperature versus IPCC models (CMIP5 RCP 4.5) spreadsheet for the first time in a couple of years, and it appears that after 2014, when temperatures were below all but 1 of the models (inmcm4) out of 42, in 2015 they were almost at the multi-model mean, and in 2016 they were just below the MMM. Whether you could describe this as “bang on”, when 2016 was strongly influenced by El Ninho is debateable. I suspect that 2015 and 2017 global temps were also influenced by El Ninho to a lesser extent and it appears that 2017 will also show a fall and will no doubt be below most of the model projections.
        This of course assumes that temperature figures are trustworthy in the first place, particularly as they all seem to show some recent retrospective upward adjustment.

    • November 11, 2017 9:01 pm

      @Harry P said .. Direct audio link to 30m30s
      Haigh had the brass front to say that the models were accurate and were ‘right on the money’ and predicted exactly what the climate would do

      Search Twitter for -r4today myron- or -r4today deniers-
      to see bile from alarmists
      Many said he was not challenged ..but I thought he was on tape, so was she .. she did ask him many questions rather than let him do a speech.

      PR man ‘The Climate Fraud’ has put out a big write up bbc-programme-foiled-again-by-climate-change-deniers

      • quaesoveritas permalink
        November 12, 2017 5:24 pm

        When I have worked up the energy, I will send a complaint to the BBC.
        Not that there is any real point.

      • November 12, 2017 10:57 pm

        @QV Tweets reach people
        Try @bbcr4Feedback etc.

  2. tom0mason permalink
    November 11, 2017 5:39 pm

    Paul, I love the fact you are using a document published for and by the Sierra Club, Greenpeas, and the propaganda outfit called CoalSwarm ( a self appointed global network of NGO activists and deadbeat researchers seeking to develop collaborative informational resources on coal impacts and alternatives.)

    Make them eat their own excrement. 🙂

  3. November 11, 2017 5:50 pm

    The BBC World Service coverage of the trip is laughable, much being made of the fact that the wonderful TPP is (supposedly) going to go ahead … without America, yeah, one in the eye for the hated Trump, with Canada looking to force its “Green” regulations onto the other countries, which will be tricky considering that coal powers Asia. China is now the poster child for “green” progressives, human rights concerns being limited to the likes of Israel and Saudi Arabia.

  4. RAH permalink
    November 11, 2017 7:49 pm

    Meanwhile Moon beam Brown (Gov. of California) speaking at Bonn, wants to put those that disagree with him and let him know about it “in the ground”.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/california-gov-jerry-brown-to-protesters-during-climate-speech-lets-put-you-in-the-ground/article/2640410

    • November 12, 2017 12:26 pm

      That cannot possibly be accurate. After all, it is the left which constantly reminds us that THEY are the tolerant ones. Oh, I forgot. Until you disagree with them.

  5. Gerry, England permalink
    November 12, 2017 12:45 pm

    I hope Donald will be doing deals to supply coal to the Asian countries but reading a piece on WUWT from the Heartland Institute conference, there are no coal ports on the west coast as the Pinko states there refuse to give permission. To export to Asia a west coast port is needed, but help may be on hand as they could use Vancouver. Good to see Democrat states wanting jobs to go elsewhere, even to Canada..

  6. M E Emberson permalink
    November 12, 2017 7:30 pm

    Meanwhile in the South Pacific. https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/98797867/insurers-warn-climate-change-will-hit-policy-prices-and-make-some-properties-uninsurable

    Note the comments which explain a lot more about the Insurers . Many have had experience with these very Insurers after the long series of Earthquakes beginning in 2010. ( EQC was the Government backed Insurance for Earthquake damage to which we all contributed.)

  7. Jack Broughton permalink
    November 13, 2017 11:17 am

    On the BBC fake-news today was a report from COP 23 saying that they were shocked that CO2 emissions have started to rise again, due to increased Chinese coal-burn only apparently. Remember that they are in Germany!

    • quaesoveritas permalink
      November 13, 2017 12:12 pm

      Roger Harrabin was on BBC News talking about the same thing.
      And this article is on tbe BBC website.
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41941265
      Of course, nobody should be surprised by this.
      All China promised to do was reduce its “carbon intensity”, not its overall emissions.
      I suppose the UK and USA will have to cut emissions further in order to compensate.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        November 13, 2017 2:00 pm

        Not the USA as they have left the agreement. Our emissions are like a gnat farting.

  8. John Wainwright permalink
    November 13, 2017 11:52 am

    At 1 kg of C02 per KWh of electricity all this adds up tp another 842,000 Gigatonnes of C02 that the don’t tell us those countries will be producing – all fully in accord with their Paris commitments. That’s why the Paris accord is a crock of s###.

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