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Open venues at risk of disappearing, says Climate Coalition report

February 7, 2018

By Paul Homewood


Unsurprisingly the BBC has jumped on the latest climate bandwagon:



Open Championship venues such as St Andrews and Royal Troon could be under water by the end of the century if sea levels rise even slightly as a result of climate change, according to a new report.

The Climate Coalition says golf, football and cricket face an “unexpected threat”, with cricket to be the “hardest hit”.

The report predicts “cancelled football matches, flooded cricket grounds and golf courses crumbling into the sea”.

It adds that rising winter temperatures mean the Scottish skiing industry could collapse within 50 years.

The report says six of the UK’s seven wettest years on record have occurred since 2000, with cricket’s County Championship already losing thousands of overs every season.

“Climate change is already impacting our ability to play and watch the sports we love,” said the report, adding that extreme weather is a factor in declining participation and lost revenue.


‘We could lose 5-10 metres in a couple of days’


Last year, Montrose sacrificed the third tee by moving rocks to reinforce the first green and second tee from coastal erosion

The report says “only a small increase in sea-level rise would imperil all of the world’s links courses before the end of the century”.

The Open is the only one of golf’s majors played in the UK and is hosted on links courses, including – as well at St Andrews and Royal Troon – Royal Birkdale, Hoylake, Royal Lytham & St Annes, Muirfield, Sandwich, Turnberry, Portrush and 2018 venue Carnoustie.

It adds that “more than 450 years of golfing history” at Montrose, one of the five oldest courses in the world, is at risk of being washed away by rising seas and coastal erosion linked to climate change.

Research published by Dundee University in 2016 showed the North Sea has crept 70 metres towards Montrose within the past 30 years.

Chris Curnin, director at Montrose Golf Links, said: “As the sea rises and the coast falls away, we’re left with nowhere to go. Climate change is often seen as tomorrow’s problem – but it’s already eating away at our course.

“In a perfect storm we could lose 5-10 metres over just a couple of days and that could happen at pretty much any point.”

There was as much as 20% less playing time for courses across the greater Glasgow area in 2016-17 compared to 10 years earlier, the report suggests.

“It is a fact that increased rainfall and extreme events are causing more disruption in recreational golf,” says Richard Windows of the Sports Turf Research Institute (STRI).

Steve Isaac, director of sustainability for the R&A, golf’s governing body outside the United States and Mexico, agrees the “future threats are very real” for the sport.



‘Grassroots football in decline’

Carlisle United's Brunton Park ground

Carlisle United’s Brunton Park was flooded in the storms of winter 2015

The report states “increased rainfall and more extreme weather events associated with climate change may be a defining factor in the viability of grassroots football”.

It adds that:

  • Grassroots clubs lose five weeks per season to bad weather;
  • More than a third lose two to three months;
  • 84% of those highlight facilities as the most pressing issue facing grassroots game;
  • Sport England reported a 180,000 drop over 10 years in people playing weekly;
  • 25 Football League fixtures postponed during 2015-16 season.

In December 2015, Carlisle United’s Brunton Park was hit by Storm Desmond, forcing the League One club out of their ground for 49 days at a reported cost of nearly £200,000.

“Climate modelling has found that climate change made this storm 59% more likely,” said Kate Sambrook, from the Priestley International Centre for Climate.

In the same season, grassroots club Bromley Heath United were unable to play matches for 12 weeks because of unsuitable pitches.

Longer term, the Football Association will invest £48m in hundreds of new all-weather and specially adapted turf pitches across the country, including new dedicated facilities in 30 cities, in addition to upgrading more than 200 existing pitches nationwide.



Cricket struggles to be ‘commercially viable’

Rain stat

According to the Climate Coalition report, cricket will be “hardest hit” by climate change out of all the major pitch sports, with more rain resulting in more delays and abandonments.

Cardiff-based club Glamorgan have lost 1,300 hours of cricket since 2000 as a result of extreme weather and rainfall.

“Losing so much cricket is a county’s worst nightmare – it affects the club at every level,” said Glamorgan head of operations Dan Cherry. “It’s difficult even for first-class counties to be commercially viable with such an impact.

“T20 Blast is a great way to get new people through the gates and into cricket – but they won’t come back if this keeps happening and it’s damaged the club to the tune of £1m.”

More than a quarter (27%) of England’s home one-day international since 2000 have seen reduced overs because of rain disruptions, while the rate of rain-affected matches has more than doubled since 2011.

The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) spent £1m in emergency grants in 2016 and £1.6m in 2017 to support clubs and restore their facilities and have set aside £2.5m a year for small grants to help club sides keep matches on.

There is the risk that increasingly disrupted cricket will lead to people no longer getting involved in the sport. According to the report, nearly 40,000 fewer people played cricket in 2015-16 than in 2005-06, a fall of almost 20%.

“There is clear evidence that climate change has had a huge impact on the game in the form of general wet weather and extreme weather events,” said ECB national participation manager Dan Musson.



The first thing to note is that the Climate Coalition, who wrote the report, is not some objective, scientific organisation, but a grouping of activist outfits, such as WWF, Christian Aid, Oxfam,, and a a whole host of other usual suspects, all of who have their drums to bang.

In other words, not the sort of organisation you could trust to produce an unbiased report.

But what about some of the specific claims?


1) The report says six of the UK’s seven wettest years on record have occurred since 2000, with cricket’s County Championship already losing thousands of overs every season.


In fact the long running England & Wales rainfall series shows nothing unusual at all about recent rainfall trends.


Given that, apart from Glamorgan, all of the County Championship cricket teams are based in England, and play mainly in summer months, it is probably pertinent to note that most recent summers there have not particularly wet at all.

Even the summer of 2012 was nowhere near as wet as 1912.

England Rainfall - Summer



2) Open Championship venues such as St Andrews and Royal Troon could be under water by the end of the century if sea levels rise even slightly as a result of climate change


Sea levels around the Scottish coast have barely risen at all since the 19thC. The long running tidal gauge at Aberdeen, for instance, shows a rise of only 0.72mm a year since 1862, with no acceleration:


The reason is very simple – the Scottish landmass is actually rising as a result of GIA:


I somehow don’t believe that 3 inches of sea level rise in the next century will make the slightest difference.



3) It adds that “more than 450 years of golfing history” at Montrose, one of the five oldest courses in the world, is at risk of being washed away by rising seas and coastal erosion linked to climate change…

Research published by Dundee University in 2016 showed the North Sea has crept 70 metres towards Montrose within the past 30 years.

As we have already seen, sea levels at Aberdeen, 40 miles up the coast from Montrose, have barely risen at all in the last century.

The problem of erosion at Montrose, which effectively is built on a sandbar, is a much more complex one then the Climate Coalition con-merchants would like you to believe, as the Scotsman reported in 2015:

One town that has long felt the impact of coastal erosion is Montrose in Angus, where it is estimated the dune system fronting the Montrose Links golf courses receded around 45 metres between 1988 and 2006.

Researchers from Dundee University found that, at its peak, dunes were receding at around eight metres a year. Plans are now in place to realign the Medal course and create a new hole away from the coastline given the ongoing dangers posed by erosion.

Meanwhile, Angus Council continues to work to stem the affects of the tides on the shore side. Mark Davidson, a senior engineer at Angus Council, said: “Montrose Bay has suffered from some quite severe erosion over the years “Here we very much have a case of Mother Nature doing what it is meant to do.”

Key data has been established about the behaviour of the sea and its impact on the bay. Mr Davidson said: “We have been looking back in history and one good example of how to measure the changes is the Second World War pill boxes in the dunes, which now at Montrose have become exposed. “We have also got historic evidence that the beach was way back into Montrose previously. “

What we see is different cycles of Mother Nature at work. Basically, the North Sea is attacking the beach.”


Gullane beach - workers use a tractor to erect a sand wall to prevent erosion in 1964.

Gullane beach – workers use a tractor to erect a sand wall to prevent erosion in 1964.



A natural and largely unexplained change in the wave climate – such as the height and the direction – in the late 1980s led to the onset of severe erosion at Montrose, researchers found. In the late 1990s, the town’s Glaxo plant, which backs onto the beach at the estuary, installed rock armour to protect the premises from the tides. While it has had some success, tides have been pushed further north making the dunes by the golf course more vulnerable.

Sand dredged out of South Esk Estuary to keep routes clear into Montrose Harbour may also have quickened erosion. A number of new, less intensive protection methods are now being used at Montrose to try and slow down the damage. Fences placed on the beach both provide a resting place for blown sands while catching and falling dune from above, which creates another natural barrier.

Timber groyns, which interrupt water flow, have also been used with some success, Mr Davidson said. Mr Davidson pointed to the beach at Monifieth, around 25 miles south, as an example where conditions had improved. “At one point you couldn’t drive down the road for the dunes and then they started to erode. What we are seeing now is a new cycle and the beach is at the highest it has ever been. That change has happened over 10 to 15 years. “That is due to a combination of two things, the first is that the natural wave cycle is changing and the second is the techniques we have used there. “

We are working with Mother Nature instead of against her. At the end of the day, a battle against Mother Nature is a hard one to win.”



A scientific study by Milne, Dong and Davidson in 2012 confirmed that the two major factors behind the erosion:

a) A shift of the direction of the tides to a more northerly direction, thus impacting the golf course.

b) Dredging of the estuary.

As Davidson points out, erosion of sand dunes is a perfectly natural process, which has been going on for a long time, something which occurs in cycles.

But it is also clear that the dredging of the estuary, estimated at 1.5 million tonnes of sand since the 1980s, has also had a major impact. The dredging really took off when the North Sea oil boom started.

Andrew Cooper, professor of coastal studies at Ulster University certainly believes it has had an effect. “It would seem to me very unlikely it would have no impact,” he said. “That’s a very big volume of sand. In a situation like Montrose where we have this closed system, keeping the sand in the system is the best possible way to prevent long-term effects from taking place.

The cause of the erosion may be anthropogenic, but it has little to do with climate change.



4) There was as much as 20% less playing time for courses across the greater Glasgow area in 2016-17 compared to 10 years earlier, the report suggests.

Comparison between two single years is meaningless. 2006 was of course a hot and dry summer.

The most common cause of closed golf courses is snow and frost. On that basis, golfers in Scotland will enjoy much more playing time now than in the past.

Scotland Mean temperature - Winter



5) The report states “increased rainfall and more extreme weather events associated with climate change may be a defining factor in the viability of grassroots football”.

25 Football League fixtures postponed during 2015-16 season

Is there anything unusual about 25 matches being postponed in a season?

Again it is snow and ice that cause most problems.

In January 2013, 14 league matches were postponed on one weekend alone because of frozen pitches.

Three years earlier matters were even worse, when 29 Football league games and another seven Premier League ones were postponed on one weekend due to snow.

Probably no winter saw more postponements than 1962/3:

We often hear managers calling for a winter break in January due to the heavily congested post-Christmas fixture programme, but during the 1962/63 season football enjoyed something of an enforced three-month sabbatical due to freak weather conditions, which threatened not only the national game, but the country as a whole.

When Middlesbrough finally overcame Blackburn Rovers in a replay at Ayresome Park on the 11th March 1963, it ended one of the most chaotic third round weekends in the history of the FA Cup. The round of games, which had begun back on January 5th would take an astonishing 66 days before being completed as the season looked like it might never end.

The winter of 1963 was one of the coldest in living memory. Snow swept across the nation on Boxing Day 1962, and in many places it remained on the ground until late March. The situation wasn’t helped by arctic winds which led to huge snow drifts up to 20 feet feet deep in some places.

Officially it was the coldest month of the 20th century that January, with temperatures of -19 degrees Celsius being recorded in several locations with the average temperature failing to get above freezing; it was that cold that rivers had lumps of ice in them and even the sea froze solid.

Not surprisingly the country was brought to a standstill, while the weather also played havoc with the sporting calendar. Horse racing was was temporarily cancelled with no meetings taking place in England for four months, but football was one of the sports hit most severely and particularly the FA Cup.

Brighton & Hove Albion fans watch as players warm up in the snow

Lincoln City’s game with Coventry City was postponed an astonishing 14 times, while in Scotland a cup tie between Stranraer and Airdrie was called-off no fewer than 33 times. Things weren’t much better in Yorkshire either as Barnsley were only able to play two matches between 22nd December and March 12th.

In all there were a total of 261 postponements and half of the 32 ties fell victim to the weather 10 times or more. In the years since nothing has had such a dramatic impact on sport in the British Isles and many will hope it never will again.

So extreme were the conditions that friendly games were hastily arranged in Ireland, where the conditions weren’t quite as bad as teams were desperate to maintain fitness levels. Never one to miss an opportunity, Coventry’s Jimmy Hill excelled in the trying circumstances.



We see an all to depressingly familiar pattern with this report. Activist researchers publish a junk report, warning us of climate apocalypse.

The BBC and the rest of the media broadcast it without any questions asked, as if it were fact.

And virtue signalling organisations tell us we must all wake up to the challenge.

Dame Katherine Grainger, Olympic rower and now chair of UK Sport, sums up the whole scam:

“This report sets out how some of our most iconic British sports are being threatened by a changing climate. Storms and floods are wreaking havoc on football and cricket pitches across the country, historic golf courses are succumbing to higher seas and storm surges, and winter sports are under threat from reducing snow.

It is up to all of us, in all walks of life, to act to address the growing challenge of climate change. There are some excellent examples in this report of how sports and clubs are rising to that challenge – reducing carbon emissions and working to improve the resilience of their sports. Now we need to see this action for sustainability step up a level, and for all sportspeople and sports clubs to play their part.”


Shame on you Katharine for falling for this nonsense.

  1. Stonyground permalink
    February 7, 2018 6:52 pm

    Make a note of this and throw it back at them in twenty years time. It seems that the only way to win this argument is to play the long game. Sound science is very good at making accurate predictions, the alarmists are never right, we just need to keep on pointing this out.

  2. February 7, 2018 7:17 pm

    People like Dame Katherine Grainger, who know nothing about the climate, don’t get their highly paid jobs by basing their statements on the facts. They all have to kowtow to the Greenblob propaganda or else goodbye well-paid job and the accompanying 1st class travel/accommodation and prestige.

    • Tom O permalink
      February 8, 2018 8:11 pm

      Sad isn’t it? To become the prostitutes for the green weenies, you first have to sacrifice your self respect and put cotton in your nostrils to cut the stench. No wonder they all act like they are over medicated. That is something low self esteem often causes.

  3. Bitter@twisted permalink
    February 7, 2018 7:32 pm

    With climate change when has verifiable data mattered?
    In these new, post-normal times, opinion and virtue-signalling always trump reason.

  4. NeilC permalink
    February 7, 2018 7:36 pm

    I reckon the BBC will be at risk far sooner!

  5. markl permalink
    February 7, 2018 7:50 pm

    Hit those non believers where it hurts! This reeks of desperation and virtue signaling.

  6. February 7, 2018 7:52 pm

    Rain and wind aren’t exactly new phenomena in Scotland. It’s just the usual ‘everything getting worse’ stuff, or expected to because ‘our models say’ blah blah. Next!

  7. February 7, 2018 7:54 pm

    Yet another example of Illiberal mindset journalism, where dissenting views are not even considered.

  8. February 7, 2018 8:08 pm

    orchestrated ….?

    nah… couldn’t be.

  9. CheshireRed permalink
    February 7, 2018 8:46 pm

    Play the emotive card for all you’re worth.
    Polar bears.
    Coastal cities.
    Polar bears.
    Now football, cricket and golf.
    And polar bears.
    These people are absolute cretins and I’d love to see a FF co. actually sue them. The burden of proof would lie with those making the claim and these claims are as Paul says, absolute junk. I’d go further and call them outright fraud.

    • dave permalink
      February 8, 2018 8:00 am

      “…[professional] football, cricket and golf…”

      What civilized person would not be glad to see the back of them?

      Anyway, not a single of us will be alive “at the end of the century.”

      Right now, the ice cover of the Great Lakes has reached an all-time maximum. Yes I know, “YAWN,” but that is the level of trivial facts the warmunistas like. So sock it to them.

  10. Mack permalink
    February 7, 2018 8:57 pm

    I don’t know where to start with this one. As usual, Paul, a thorough forensic disection of the usual nonsense. A couple of points that tickled me were, firstly, Grainger’s point about our winter sports being affected by ‘reducing snow’. Er, as the head of U.K. Sport, didn’t she notice that the HQ of UK skiing in the Cairngorms has been enjoying some of the best conditions in living memory with Scottish Police reporting traffic jams up to 6 miles long up to the best slopes as reported by, none other than, the BBC! Secondly, with regard to the poor plight of Carlisle Utd. That would be the same football club that happens to be built on a flood plain In an area that’s been prone to extensive flooding ever since the Romans re-routed the course of the main river that runs through the city for defensive purposes almost 2000 years ago. In those days, of course, the city was just a very small walled town on higher ground, not spread across hundreds of thousands of acres of concrete slapped on top of marshland, as it is today. A flood plain that floods, no kidding. What have the Romans done for us heh?

    • Graeme No.3 permalink
      February 7, 2018 9:06 pm

      But Mack, only a few days ago it was drought that was the problem.

      • Mack permalink
        February 7, 2018 10:51 pm

        Ah, would that be where Paul pointed out that winter precipitation was a little below par in certain areas of the country, but nothing outside the realms of natural variability looking at the long term records, which Jillian immediately seemed to interpret as “Oh my God, it’s the start of a century long mega drought!!!” I think Ms Ambrose dreads it every time Paul marks her homework. It’s just such a shame that her editor doesn’t. More likely, the editor is just another uncritical, unthinking quisling whose journalistic skills are as much an embarrassment to a once great paper as the Ambroses of this world.

  11. Broadlands permalink
    February 7, 2018 9:29 pm

    It is quite remarkable that what is consistently missing in ALL of these continued climate change “catastrophe” warnings is the fact that nothing at all can be done about “mitigating” it any time soon. Hundreds of years, at best and “catastrophic” costs. All totally ignored and commonly followed by the usual phrase “Act now!”

  12. avro607 permalink
    February 7, 2018 9:42 pm

    To Paul.Is the England and Wales Precip. series applicable to Scotland,or do they have a separate recording system?

  13. avro607 permalink
    February 7, 2018 9:49 pm

    Storm surges were also mentioned,but we have had those since time immemorial.Also regarding sand erosion,where do they think Spurn Point came from.Thousands of years of coastal erosion.

  14. MrGrimNasty permalink
    February 7, 2018 10:20 pm

    I emailed the BBC about this on Radio 5 Breakfast but it bounced back claiming a full inbox.

    They also carried the story about Chedder man being black skinned (a thin excuse to dish out more unsubtle BBC PC propaganda about immigration/race) but they mentioned we used to be connected by Doggerland – which obviously vanished all without the help of CAGW.

    PSMSL Dunbar/Leith/Rosyth records pretty much cover 100 years and sea level rise (or rather slight sea level variation up and down resolving to near nothing in 100 years) is clearly not a significant factor.

    If you build golf courses on highly mobile coastal sites – what do you expect?

    • dave permalink
      February 8, 2018 10:04 am

      “…thin excuse…[for] propaganda…”

      It is probable that most early humans were dark-skinned.

      Curiously, the earliest levels of folk myth of the British Isles involve a small, dark, people who sailed to here, along the coast from Spain, and were presumably of South Mediterranean or North African type.

      The ancient names of Ireland and Spain , “Eire” and “Ib-Eria” are similar.

      • Ben Vorlich permalink
        February 8, 2018 5:09 pm

        Journeying from Scythia, to Spain to Ireland to Scotland is recounted in the history of the Scots in the Declaration of Arbroath of 1320.

  15. John F. Hultquist permalink
    February 7, 2018 10:50 pm

    Deposition or erosion along a coastal beach can change for many reasons. Some have already been mentioned.
    There is also the possibility that a source of sediment has disappeared. Say the source of sand was deposited from melt-water flow near the end of the last ice advance. A stream might cut away at that and carry it to the coast. Longshore drift might then carry it to a favored location – the golf course.
    Once the source is all gone, investigating what happened is nearly impossible.
    Installation of breakwaters, pilings, dredging — these things are easier to see.

    A place called Washaway Beach on the coast of Washington State has experienced something, but exactly what is unclear.

  16. tom0mason permalink
    February 8, 2018 3:14 am

    Well not all bad news then if golf courses are threatened. 😊

  17. M E Emberson permalink
    February 8, 2018 5:09 am

    It may pay The Scotsman and the BBC to consult someone who lectures in Geomorphology.

    If we stop putting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere will all these natural processes stop, and how long will it be before this happens? Perhaps someone can ask the BBC to make one of their nature programmes about it and ask if they can find a real geologist to front it.

  18. Ian Wilson permalink
    February 8, 2018 8:06 am

    I cancelled my standing order to the Woodland Trust when I learned (I think on this blog) that they gave money to the Climate Coalition and told them why. I think it might be useful if you could list again charities which fund this outfit so more donors can make similar decisions. It might concentrate a few minds if they find supporting this dreadful organisation hits their income. It’s a pity as I think the Woodland Trust does some excellent work.

  19. Roy permalink
    February 8, 2018 9:38 am

    Can’t remember when it came out, but wasn’t there a report about the Winter Olympics being in danger due to a warming planet. Somewhat ironic that this years Open Ceremony in South Korea tomorrow may not be attended by many athletes due to the very cold weather! Apparently it’s not good for your health to be standing around for several hours when it’s -16c.

  20. Athelstan permalink
    February 8, 2018 9:51 am

    It is possible that, thinking back and all the climate alarmist guff which I have taken the time to read, it is quite possible that this (above bbc article) is the looniest bit of alarmunist drivel that I’ve had the misfortune to read, a bell was going off in my head (this will be utter crap and don’t bother) – I was right.

  21. keith permalink
    February 8, 2018 10:12 am

    Another fake news item from the leading fake news organisation, the BBC.

  22. martinbrumby permalink
    February 8, 2018 10:13 am

    As Dave suggests, I could put a brave face on the demise of professional football, cricket and golf. Not to mention the Beeb and this bunch of Climate Cult shroudwavers.

    But what would cost more, proper sea defences at Montrose (even if built from gold ingots) or replacing fossil fuels with solar panels (in Scotland!) and whirlygigs?

  23. Europeanonion permalink
    February 8, 2018 10:31 am

    I wonder how much effect the erection of massive wind farms will have on tides and deposition. But you cannot blame people for having concerns about their planet. Only when these concerns are adopted by single issue proselytisers and their contortions do things start to get difficult.

    Today we see a demand in Parliament for a regulatory authority on behaviour (which alludes to the profligacy of men). What may now constitute poor behaviour in adult matters is surely a matter that can be addressed by adults in guardianship of their own mores; especially in a Parliament that is a seeker of truth, that handles truly tumultuous issues beyond personal relationships?

    But what is proposed will inevitably lead to the lowering of thresholds and wilful misinterpretation for purposes of control, gain. We have seen so much of this in climate matters whereby academics and correspondents endeavour to earn their corn through amplitude..In Parliament the level of obsessive interest and imaginative subjectivity on the matter of sex and the intentions of others is stultifying and only when the Parliament is composed entirely of one sex will ever be deemed ‘sage’.

    In climate we have so many ‘models’ that are little but coercion’s devised by people determining by their own intent. We are submerged in ‘intent’, the determination of future certainty that is a hostage to fortune. The ones leaning on fact are spoilers too immersed in real data, reproached with a demand to lift their heads to see what the true believers see and they, rather contrarily, are referred to as deniers..

  24. Silver Dynamite permalink
    February 8, 2018 10:43 am

    An article from the Grauniad, 2006, referring to 1962/3…

    More than 400 English league and cup matches fell victim to the weather and the season had to be extended by a month on both sides of the border. While one FA Cup third-round tie between Coventry and Lincoln eventually took place at the 16th time of asking, the clash between Airdrie and Stranraer was busy setting a British record of 33 postponements. For Airdrie it was 34th time lucky as they ran out 3-0 victors.

    Incidentally, the worst day of domestic cancellations didn’t occur in 1962-63. That honour went to February 3 1940, when only one of 56 wartime league matches beat the weather. Plymouth made the most of their moment in the limelight with a 10-3 thumping of Bristol.

    Clearly, for sport in the UK to survive it needs more CO2 emissions.

  25. Vernon E permalink
    February 8, 2018 4:01 pm

    Whenever I read references to coastal erosion especially on the eastern side of the uk I ask myself why this country, which is so prone to erosion, has been so slow to adopt the use of concrete tetrapods. Without doubt these are the most effective and least costly means of stabilising our vulnerable coasts – even for golf courses.

  26. Shep permalink
    February 8, 2018 4:27 pm

    Re the closure of Carlisle football ground. The flooding of Carlisle and the football ground was a disaster waiting to happen. For years the english environment agency,along with the Scottish equivalent has been forbidding farmers to clear their drains and rivers that run through their land of gravel rock and all sorts of debris that gets washed down every year.
    Result, the rivers are full of gravel and the water has nowhere to go.
    This seems unbelievable but it is true. We are not allowed to remove debris from rivers anymore.

  27. Ben Vorlich permalink
    February 8, 2018 5:20 pm

    By grassroots football I assume they mean Weekend Leagues and schoolchildren and perhaps extending up to junior regional leagues. In my experience* Several locations in Scotland and England the pitches used for these games tend to be in large flat areas. These locations are very often flood plains and prone to water logging at best and flooding at worst. In my youth in the late 1950s and 60s, when my sons played in the 1980s and 1990s and now my grandchildren January and February were virtually written off to mud. Who can forget the old Baseball Ground and the quagmire it was in winter.

    * Crieff, Perth, Gainsborough, Nottingham and Derby plus villages around all of these.

  28. avro607 permalink
    February 8, 2018 5:28 pm

    To Paul:thanks for the info on Scottish precip.

  29. Bob Creelman permalink
    February 9, 2018 3:11 am

    All this is, freely translating a common German phase, a hat full of Shit

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