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Iceland Warmer Than Rome & South of France!!

March 7, 2018

By Paul Homewood



I came across this page in HH Lamb’s Climate, History and the Modern World yesterday.

Don’t worry about the details on the map, as they are too small to read in the book anyway. It is his description at the bottom that makes for interesting reading.




Note how temperatures in Iceland were higher than Rome and the south of France.

What he has has identified is precisely the same sort of meteorological set up, which has recently wafted up mild Atlantic air into the Arctic, and cold continental air to the UK.

Nowadays, climate scientists try to persuade us that there is something unprecedented and alarming about this, and that it must have something to do with “melting Arctic ice”.

Lamb would have called it weather!

  1. Broadlands permalink
    March 7, 2018 1:00 pm

    Great example of today’s climate scientists not knowing a lot about the past and the history of what it is they are practicing. Therefore… a lot is “unprecedented”.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      March 7, 2018 1:46 pm

      Every time they use ‘unprecedented’ it turns out that is isn’t.

  2. March 7, 2018 1:26 pm

    On 10 March 1785, Prague [Czech Republic] reported, “that the snow had fallen incessantly from the 5th till that date; that there was not a spot to be found in the mountains that was not six feet [1.8 meters] deep; and that the birds were flying about, not knowing where to rest, so that they were easily caught by the hand. All Bohemia [now western Czech Republic] was in the same situation, though in lat. 32 [latitude 32° North].”

    On 12 March 1785, Warsaw, Poland reported, “The result of the observations made upon the cold since the year 1776, in the Royal Observatory in this city, are as follow, viz. in 1776, on the coldest day, the thermometer of Reaumur was at 21 degrees [below zero, -15° F, -26° C]; in 1777, at 17 [degrees below zero, -6° F, -21° C]; in 1778, at 16 [degrees below zero, -4° F, -20° C]; in 1779, at 18 1⁄2 [degrees below zero, -10° F, -23° C]; in 1780, at 16 1⁄2 [degrees below zero, -5° F, -21° C]; in 1781, at 17 [degrees below zero, -6° F, -21° C]; in 1782, the same [-6° F, -21° C]; in 1783, at 19 1⁄2 [degrees below zero, -12° F, -24° C]; and in 1784, although the cold was universally severe, the thermometer was only at 17 degrees [below zero, -6° F, -21° C]; and on the 28th of Feb. this year [28 February 1785] it was at 24 1⁄2 degrees [below zero, which would equal -23° F, -31° C]; our accounts from Petersburg [Russia] mention, that on that day the thermometer was at 30 degrees [below zero, -35.5° F, -37.5° C].”

    On 26 March 1785, Elsinore [Helsingør, Denmark] reported, “The ice still remains in the Sound, so that the people are continuing to walk to and from Sweden on the ice. There is intelligence of some ships being in the Cattagate at present. There have been in sight of Hornbeck, two days ago, six ships, but since drove away with the ice; at the same place (which is six English miles [10 kilometers] below our castle) there were found some pieces of a wreck, supposed to be a Dutch ship.”

    On 2 April 1785, London, England reported, “The winter season, to date it from the first of snow on the 7th of October last [1784], to that which fell this day, has lasted 177 days. And if we except about 12 days towards the latter end of January, the whole of this period has been frosty or snowy, or both. Such another instance has not occurred in this island in the memory of man. The frost too has been more intense.”

    Click to access A_Chronological_Listing_of_Early_Weather_Events.pdf

  3. March 7, 2018 1:48 pm

    Broadlands, it is worse than not knowing history. I learned a few years ago when reading David Barton’s “The Jefferson Lies” about the left’s attempt to denigrate Thomas Jefferson, that today’s historians are not historians. “The Jefferson Lies” (2012), David Barton, publ. Thomas Nelson. 279 pp.

    Barton outlines today’s “historians” and their “methods” (Introduction, xvi-xxiii)
    1. Deconstructionism: tends to deemphasize or even efface the subject by posting a continuous critique.
    2. Poststructuralism: a rejection of totalizing, essentialist, foundationalist concepts such as the reality of truth. I.e. it discards absolutes.
    3. Moderism: examines historical events and persons as if they occurred and lived today rather than in the past.
    4. Minimalism: an unreasonable insistence on oversimplification; reducing everything to monolithic causes and linear effects.
    5. Academic collectivism: a ploy whereby writers and scholars quote each other and those from their peer group rather than consult original sources. “Peer review” is incestuous

    David delves into each category with illustrations. If any have read his books, every chapter requires you to have a card in the bibliography as he cites sources and original sources for almost everything he says. The Introduction from which I took the 5 idioms of modern history–or it’s lack–has 49 citations.

    Does any of this sound mildly familiar as we deal with what passes for “science” these days?

    • Broadlands permalink
      March 7, 2018 2:34 pm

      If it took place before satellite coverage and/or “I don’t remember it” then it doesn’t exist? But, if it does, I’ll adjust it to make it “unprecedented” or maybe hide it?

  4. RAH permalink
    March 7, 2018 2:55 pm

    “Lamb would have called it weather!”
    Because that is exactly what it is. Over here in the US it’s looking like Nor Easter#2 is going to dump 2′ somewhere along a band from NYC up towards Rhode Island and that is weather too!

    And Joan I agree. Many if not most historians these days are nothing of the sort. They’re revisionists doing the same thing as some “scientists” are trying to do to the temperature and climate history. Adjusting the historic data and events to support a contemporary agenda. Every great once in a while they get caught and called out but not often.

    • AZ1971 permalink
      March 7, 2018 4:57 pm

      RAH said, “and that is weather too!”

      Bingo. Weather events are just that—weather. They are not indicative of changing climate because they are inextricably two different things. Even the cold and snow events are just weather, which some people tend to suggest is indicative of a return to LIA conditions.

  5. Athelstan permalink
    March 7, 2018 5:04 pm

    O/T but on a theme:

    Greens hate individual freedom and private property. They dream of a centralized, unelected global government, financed by taxes on developed nations and controlled by all the tentacles of the U.N.

    No longer is real pollution of our environment the main Green concern. The key slogan of the Green religion is “sustainable development,” with them defining what is sustainable.

    Greens hate miners. They use nationalized parks, heritage areas, flora and fauna reserves, green bans, and land rights to close as much land as possible to explorers and miners. Apparently, resources should be locked away for some lucky future generation. And if some persistent explorer manages to prove a mineral deposit, greens will then strangle it in the approval process, using “death by delay.”

    Greens hate farmers with their ploughs, fertilizers, crops, and grazing animals. They want Aussie grazing land turned back to kangaroos. They plan to expel farmers and graziers from most land areas, with food produced in concentrated feedlots, factory farms, communal gardens, and hydroponics.

    Greens hate professional fishermen with their nets, lines, and harpoons. Using the Great Barrier Reef as their poster child, they plan to control the seas using marine parks, fishing quotas, bans, and licenses, leaving us to get seafood from concentrated fish farms.

    know the enemy because it, they know you, they have sought us out and will sort us out!

    • Bitter@twisted permalink
      March 7, 2018 6:23 pm

      Maybe OT, but spot on!

      • Athelstan permalink
        March 7, 2018 8:59 pm

        anything to do with the green blob is misanthropic – in simple terms.

        If, if they (Corbyn’s Leninists) somehow manage to fix the vote, the watermelons will have a bloody field day and it is no exaggeration to say, people through being unable to pay energy bills and the consequences of the rolling blackouts which wil ensue a Labour victory – death will visited on the UK and via the green lunatics.

        The only question is, accorded to the ‘green agenda’ by how many will the death rate rise?

  6. Roger Graves permalink
    March 7, 2018 6:50 pm

    I was walking through a shopping mall recently with a friend when we came upon a two year old having a meltdown. The little tot was stamping his feet and screaming “NO, NO, NO, NO, NO …”. (Any parent will be familiar with this.) My friend turned to me and said “look, there’s an environmentalist in training”.

  7. March 7, 2018 7:27 pm

    Isolated weather events can’t on their own be evidence of anything. It’s the trend that matters – if one can be found.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle permalink
    March 7, 2018 8:44 pm

    It’s still climate change, but not the sort which has anything to do with CO2.

    The very cold weather in the UK lately is interesting since the last time this happened was in 2010. Which was at the bottom of the solar cycle. We are now back to similar solar activity conditions and again the jet streams are getting more sinuous and the alternating phases of cold and hot weather are similar. Remember the satellite pic of a fully whited-out UK in winter of 2010, and the Moscow heat wave of the same year?

    Both jet stream related. Prof. Mike Lockwood told the BBC that the jet stream related cold weather was due to the low solar activity:

    Low solar activity link to cold UK winters

    It’s always interesting to keep an eye on the jet streams as you can usually see they are the cause of hot or cold spikes before the climatistas get excited. Right now Alaska is likely warmer that usual and NE China is getting a blast of cold straight down from the Arctic. All due to the Sun, not CO2.

    • dave permalink
      March 8, 2018 3:59 am

      Your link to ‘low solar activity’:

      A simple explanation of this theory, by someone connected to the Met Office who blithely pretends to be the first person ever to have thought of it:

      Of course, it is actually a piece of precautionary and preparatory propaganda (“PPP”) from the high priests along the lines of, “The cold you are feeling is not real! Keep the faith!”

      I predict that the present trickle of this ass-covering PPP (also known as “get your retaliation in first”) will be a steady stream in five years’ time.

  9. Green Sand permalink
    March 7, 2018 8:51 pm

    Anybody told Moonbat?

  10. March 7, 2018 8:52 pm

    Reblogged this on WeatherAction News and commented:
    I get the distinct feeling Lamb would have enjoyed the variation we see today;
    These variations, perhaps more than any underlying trend to a warmer or colder climate, create difficulties for the planning age in which we live. They may be associated with the increased meridionality of the general wind circulation, the greater frequency of blocking, of stationary high and low pressure systems, giving prolonged northerly winds in one longitude and southerly winds in another longitude sector in middle latitudes.
    Hubert Lamb – Climate, History and the Modern World

  11. March 7, 2018 11:09 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate Collections.

  12. Robert Stitt permalink
    March 7, 2018 11:49 pm

    I’ve started a non payment of the BBC campaign on twitter due to their propaganda. #DontPayBBC
    Will do more, please join me, please use same #
    Willing to go to court and also withholding one third of my energy bill (should it be only electric or gas as well). If millions do this we can get £400billion for the NHS instead of wind turbines.

  13. buffin47 permalink
    March 8, 2018 8:48 am

    Lamb’s learning is awesome, and i am grateful to Paul for introducing me to the book.

  14. Derek Spence permalink
    March 8, 2018 11:48 am

    Paul I have read your suggested letter to your local Labour MP. This issue came up at a local Conservative group last night using the Conservative Policy Forum document headed “Conservative Conservation” I would appreciate your analysis on it. As a result of my reading of NALOPKT I was able to share some facts which contradicted the statements made.

    How best can I forward this to you privately and feel your analysis would be much more appropriate/effective than mine.

    Thanks Derek


  15. Athelstan permalink
    March 8, 2018 12:23 pm

    Paul, have you seen this: :-

    and this, unbelievable……………..duh!

    “Exposure to household air pollution is a problem of poverty,” says Kevin Mortimer, a medical doctor and a respiratory health researcher at the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine. “If you’re not poor, you’re not exposed.”

    About 2.8 billion people – between a third and a half of the world’s population – burn solid fuel such as wood, crop waste, charcoal, coal and dung to cook their food in open fires and leaky stoves.

    Inside those homes, cooking smoke is eye-stingingly visible, and it blackens the walls. But the invisible effect it has on the tiniest, branching airways of the lungs is what makes this a global crisis.

    BBC link

    I think on our nation, and the wondrous, marvellous boon that was the supply of; CHEAP, INVARIABLE and PLENTIFUL of domestic electrical power (plus, not least in hospitals, schools, work places) was.

    Have we forgotten and in only the last couple of generations – so quickly?

    Dumb or what and what a country, led up down to the darkness by ‘progressives’ – aka ‘our’ political representaitives aka the morons.

    • Athelstan permalink
      March 8, 2018 12:24 pm

      up the garden path or down?

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