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Tourism’s carbon impact three times larger than estimated

May 8, 2018

By Paul Homewood

 

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I would have two questions to ask Matt McGrath:

1) So what?

2) Where are you going on holiday this year?

39 Comments
  1. Joe Public permalink
    May 8, 2018 9:58 pm

    So, if tourism’s carbon impact is three times larger than estimated, what factors were previously overestimated that enabled all carbon impacts to be calculated?

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 9, 2018 8:20 am

      It means that some other activity contributes less.

      So I’m not sure what the point is really.

  2. Ian permalink
    May 8, 2018 10:15 pm

    It won’t matter what it is because it would be inconvenient to recognise it and actually adjust lifestyle to suit. We live in parallel universes where cars are going to disappear one day but, meanwhile, every new model is bigger and more powerful than the last (who can manage without 200 bhp anymore?); 600 bhp supercars sell out in no time; if you add a battery to one as a company car to show your green, caring credentials, the government will throw money at you, pretending it’ll make a difference.

    At the other end of the scale, there are stories like this one:

    https://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/education/the-amount-of-waste-from-schools-is-scandalous-and-needs-to-change-1-9133022

    Another example of parallel universes – the green NGOs brainwash the kiddies (with government connivance) about saving the planet but forget to mention that they actually have to do something themselves.

    You couldn’t make it up.

    • May 9, 2018 9:37 am

      Sheffield was well known in the energy world for its energy from waste plant, which sold electricity and supplied heat to the city’s district heating scheme. Is it to be deprived of valuable fuel?

  3. John F. Hultquist permalink
    May 8, 2018 10:16 pm

    I just left a note (with Link) on the previous post.
    Wishing to not distract from current thread.

  4. Ian Magness permalink
    May 8, 2018 10:21 pm

    The answer is crystal clear and it will allow the the Warmunists to finish the job off (with regard to inhabitants of developing world countries that rely upon tourism): ban it!
    So, any locals not already reduced to penury by skyrocketing green energy bills, can rest assured they will reach that state after all the tourism jobs are lost. What a neat solution! And we get to lower “carbon emissions” at the same time and save the world!

    • May 9, 2018 8:51 am

      Don’t despair – all the foreign tourists will just be replaced by local nationals who can’t get a flight/boat etc. We know it makes sense :/

  5. Graeme No.3 permalink
    May 8, 2018 10:59 pm

    2 days ago the screams from the Greenies was that tourism to Tasmania should be curtailed, even ‘green’ tourism. Tasmania need tourism as 16 previous years of Labor with Green support nearly wrecked the state economy.
    Greenies are very thick in Tasmania.

    • Mike Jackson permalink
      May 9, 2018 8:13 am

      Greenies are pretty thick wherever they are.

  6. It doesn't add up... permalink
    May 8, 2018 11:12 pm

    I suspect if we did the same analysis on COP meetings we would come up with an even greater pro-rata impact.

  7. Broadlands permalink
    May 9, 2018 1:16 am

    I suppose this is a warning to all those well-paid “tourists” who jet off to yet another climate change event where they express their concern about the rising CO2 leading to catastrophe.

    Hypocrites. Act now! Stay home, ride your bicycles through the snow and sweep it off the solar panels.

  8. markl permalink
    May 9, 2018 2:19 am

    The ultimate outcome of this insanity is to stop travel. Over seas or over land because it’s bad for the climate. What a bunch of self absorbed people that are content with living in a bubble.

    • May 9, 2018 11:35 am

      I well remember pictures of the people of China on bicycles as they could not have cars. Putting a stop to tourism is another way to curtail mobility and thus basic freedom. It also serves to keep people from seeing different cultures and how they are handling the “crisis.”

  9. May 9, 2018 5:32 am

    Anybody who watches or listens to the BBC knows that BBC employees must be the biggest tourists with the biggest ‘carbon footprint’ of any other group of people in the UK. The BBC must have an enormous travel department providing all the travel and accommodation arrangements for the BBC employees. The BBC employees who seem to do most traveling and have the highest ‘carbon footprint’ must be the environment correspondents such as Harrabin, Shukman, Heap etc.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 9, 2018 8:23 am

      The various sporting junkets spring to mind, notably the Olympics and the World Cup. apparently there were 765 in Rio, more than the athletes of Team GB.

  10. NeilC permalink
    May 9, 2018 5:56 am

    Why do we jet off the the Med for a couple of weeks each year? Simply, because the forecast Mediterranian climate we were supposed to be having in the UK, advocated by the prats like McGrath HAS NOT HAPPENED.

    • Graeme No.3 permalink
      May 9, 2018 10:31 am

      NeilC:

      The actual level of Climate Change can be calculated by the percentage of northern europeans (including British) spending their summer holidays in Svalbard and Baffin Island (or Ellesmere Island) divided by those who head south.
      I can’t post the actual percentage because my calculater only allows 9 noughts after the decimal point.

  11. May 9, 2018 6:07 am

    So this actually means the impact of CO2 on the climate has been vastly overestimated yet again.

  12. dave permalink
    May 9, 2018 6:34 am

    When did ‘carbon dioxide’ become ‘carbon’? About the same time, I suppose, that “Global Warming’ became ‘Climate Change.’

    Meanwhile, we can witness the continuing Arctic Sea-Ice ‘death spiral:’

    • nigel permalink
      May 9, 2018 8:11 am

      “…Global Warming became ” “Climate Change.”

      We can all see the tedious, looming, bend in the road.

      As temperatures turn down, it will be spun as:

      “Voila! The Climate Change which we predicted – all along – would be the first sign of Global Warming; and therefore…”

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 9, 2018 8:24 am

      But there were 2-3 days when it was far warmer than it should have been! How can this be?

      • dave permalink
        May 9, 2018 10:13 am

        “How can this be?”

        Perhaps, it is simply that Mother Nature does what she pleases?

    • May 9, 2018 11:38 am

      When did CO2 become a “greenhouse gas?” In my college physiology text it and the other gases are properly called “atmospheric gases.” The use of greenhouse gas is a deliberate attempt to make them sound unnatural, dangerous and bad.

      • dave permalink
        May 9, 2018 2:31 pm

        As I am sure Dr Gibson knows, CO2 does not last long in a greenhouse!

        “Any actively growing crop in a tightly clad greenhouse is capable of reducing the ambient carbon-dioxide from 400 to 200 ppm.”

        Which is why supplementation to 1000 ppm, by burning fossil fuels on site, is best practice in horticulture.

        Surprisingly, growers have not waited for CAGW to do this job for them!

  13. Charles Wardrop permalink
    May 9, 2018 8:14 am

    When will international bodies set a “good” example by closing down centralised international conferences, e.g., those on climate change and carbon footprints?

  14. Tony Budd permalink
    May 9, 2018 8:31 am

    I agree with Charles Wardrop about international conferences’ carbon footprints. But the amusing thing about the study on the impact of tourism is that no account seems to be taken of the reduction of food consumption, travel, heating/air conditioning in the tourists’ home countries while they’re away!

    • May 9, 2018 11:39 am

      Picky, picky. Don’t go introducing common sense where it is not allowed.

    • May 9, 2018 1:19 pm

      Did try the “snowbird” bit for one year. Spending winter in the south and moving back north in summer. The fuel getting south was likely about equal to the fuel used to stay warm in the north and other living expenses were (food, clothing, etc) was about the same or less (did not have to buy cold weather boots or parka.) The extra environmental impact was likely nil or negative.
      The bad part was the horrendous cost of medical insurance for the USA.
      We are seniors living in Canada with free medical care and subsidized drugs.

  15. Silver Dynamite permalink
    May 9, 2018 8:59 am

    I imagine virtue signalling moron politicians will be falling over themselves to impose a “carbon tax” on tourists.

    • dave permalink
      May 9, 2018 10:17 am

      “…virtue signalling moron…”

      Reminds me how the ditzy little Hollywood heroine Alicia Silverstone said twenty years ago that when she flew [sic] back from London to Los Angeles she would be taking her empty tins with her, because LA had a better recycling programme than London.

    • May 9, 2018 11:41 am

      Oh, the unintended consequences of killing the tourist industry. Of course they never think of those until they have demolished it and then look around for which of us to blame.

  16. Simon from Ashby permalink
    May 9, 2018 9:10 am

    I don’t suppose this will stop the Maldives building their new airport runway. I hope they get to use it before the island sinks below the waves.

    • Graeme No.3 permalink
      May 9, 2018 10:35 am

      Is this their twelfth of thirteenth airport?
      And how many have been built since their underwater Cabinet meeting?

  17. dennisambler permalink
    May 9, 2018 10:39 am

    http://sydney.edu.au/science/people/arunima.malik.php

    “She coordinates and teaches a number of postgraduate units for the Masters of Sustainability program.

    Arunima’s research interests include full supply-chain sustainability analysis of introducing new industries in an economy, triple bottom line and footprint assessments, and hybrid life cycle assessments.

    She has analysed the economic, social and environmental impacts of potential biofuel industries in Australia. Additionally, she has quantified the drivers of a change in global energy use, carbon dioxide emissions and nitrogen emissions using input-output based structural decomposition analysis (SDA).”

  18. Max Sawyer permalink
    May 9, 2018 11:03 am

    I am still hanging on to the hope that when the contents of wallets are at risk, common sense will rule and virtue-signalling will be forced to take its rightful place.

  19. May 9, 2018 11:11 am

    Meanwhile we see tonnes of rubbish left behind on Southend’s beach after the bank holiday (“it’s all right, someone else will come and clear it up”). All that hand-wringing about plastic in the oceans? Whooosh over their heads. Newsflash: if you throw it in the bin it doesn’t go in the ocean. If you leave it *on the damn beach* it damn well might.

    I went to a different beach on Sunday and cleared up someone else’s lunch: fizzy drink tins, plastic salad containers, forks, paper bags. Why? Because as unpleasant as picking up someone else’s rubbish is, it beats stepping over it and leaving it behind by a long way.

    I am left with the sense that the present generation knows and cares little about anything other than themselves. Their interest in the environment only stretches as far as ticking a box in an online survey; it’s as thin as the plastic of their salad containers. To coin a phrase: “Sad!”

    And another thing: what is this infestation of talk of “carbon” impacts? Whenever I see such a phrase it sets my teeth on edge and gives me the impression that I’m dealing with (to coin another phrase) a “dotard.” Are these tourists leaving a trail of diamonds in their wakes?

    • Gerry, England permalink
      May 9, 2018 12:43 pm

      Even the Swiss do it. A couple of years ago I went over to the Retro Moto De St Cergue held in the hills overlooking Lac Leman (or Geneva to many). I think there had been some sort of regatta or other event along the lake and in Geneva itself. The next day I went into the city and walked through a park that was piled up with rubbish from barbecues and picnics.

      Being a country dweller we get people driving through and donating their takeaway litter along our road. And at a shire horse show on Monday, even though big red or blue wheeled bins were dotted about, still people left their litter on the ground.

      • Broadlands permalink
        May 9, 2018 2:09 pm

        Those of you who remember the cartoon POGO will recall that at the first Earth Day, Walt Kelly wrote: “We have met the enemy and he is us”. Trash all over the place; and they still do litter as they go.

  20. swan101 permalink
    May 10, 2018 11:47 am

    Perhaps the BBC would care to comment too on the reports (Stop These Things site) that toxic turbine blades are now being sent to African land fill sites? There is a moral bankruptcy in play it seems, in more than one quarter…..

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