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MP Heappey Lets Cat Out Of Bag

May 19, 2018
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By Paul Homewood

 

James Heappey is the Conservative MP for Wells in Somerset. He is also on the Advisory Board for Richard Black’s Energy & Climate Intelligence Unit, the lobby group for renewable energy.

Last month, a debate was held in Westminster Hall to discuss the Helm Report into UK energy policy.

During the debate. Heappey made this astonishing statement:

 My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs is doing great things on waste. I accept the criticism of Professor Helm and others in this place that agriculture has been lagging behind. Representing a farming constituency, I know exactly why that is the case. It will be very challenging when we have to start telling people that they need to reduce their consumption of meat, milk, cheese and everything else in the interest of decarbonisation, but that conversation is surely coming.

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2018-04-24a.308.0

As some of us have been warning for a while, the made dash to decarbonise can only mean drastically reduced standards of living. Perhaps Heappey might be bold enough to now start telling his constituents the ugly truth of the policies he advocates.

53 Comments
  1. Phoenix44 permalink
    May 19, 2018 8:45 am

    I eat pretty much what I require, so if I consume less I will slowly die. Is this moron advocating slow starvation for us all?

    • john cheshire permalink
      May 19, 2018 9:46 am

      Of course he is; the plan is to kill about 90% of the world’s population and they won’t achieve that by letting us eat. After all, I recall one of these despicable people once referred to us as useless eaters.

    • May 19, 2018 11:11 am

      Your pal, David Attenborough, will be in complete agreement. He is in favor of much of the population dying–himself excepted, of course.

    • Curious George permalink
      May 19, 2018 3:54 pm

      Mr. Heappey should be put on a strictly controlled diet in a Category D institution.

  2. John Palmer permalink
    May 19, 2018 9:04 am

    If this ‘blessed’ transition to a low-carbon(??) diet – presumably a veggie one, ever proceeds, have they considered the appalling effect of all the extra methane that we would produce? And not just on the climate either!!

    • May 19, 2018 11:50 am

      More likely it will be wheat-based carbs, i.e. bread and pasta, quite possibly the reason for the massive increase in diabetes, following the unjustified demonisation of fat in the diet by the nutrition industry.

    • dave permalink
      May 20, 2018 7:29 am

      “…low carbon (??)…”

      Some measures of CO2 emission are in tons of CO2 , and some are expressed in terms of the tons of contained carbon.* Originally, this was merely to make it fit better with our knowledge of ‘the carbon cycle’ – which was of interest long before the obsession with CO2 was ‘rubbed up’ in sundry fevered brains.

      I think, however, that the stupiderati now actually believe that carbon is a poison. That is, presumably, because they do not know the difference between an element and a compound. Homo erectus, a million years ago with his tiny brain, knew more science, I opine, than the ‘Arts Side’ alumini of our wonderful, modern, education system.

      * It is elementary that 44.01 tonnes of CO2 contains 12.0107 tonnes of C.

  3. MrGrimNasty permalink
    May 19, 2018 9:10 am

    Yes, it is strange how there is never a discussion about how climate policy degrades economic growth and worker productivity, two indicators the BBC and Paul Johnson(IFS) love to highlight as poor/weak – or more importantly, that ‘de-growth’ is in fact part of the ideological insane goal!

    • Up2snuff permalink
      May 19, 2018 9:53 am

      oldbrew, they should have been introduced from the outset. Fraud opportunities apart, the technology existed in the early 1990s. It would have resulted in a transfer of wealth from high earners and the wealthy to those at the opposite ends of those scales.

      Perhaps many of the economic and other disasters of the intervening years might have been avoided.

      Instead, all we have had for 25 years are restrictive or fiscal measures that have the opposite effect, increasing the transfer of wealth & earnings upward on the ladder of affluence.

  4. Ken Pollock permalink
    May 19, 2018 9:14 am

    A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. How sad that an MP should be so deluded by a fashionable cause like decarbonisation. Worse that he is probably typical. Robert Jenrick MP is thinking of taxing incineration to promote plastic recycling. I have just written to my MP (and others) to show how stupid that would be. I hope others will help enlighten our elected representatives to stop them pursuing similar mad policies…

  5. 4TimesAYear permalink
    May 19, 2018 9:23 am

    Reblogged this on 4TimesAYear's Blog.

  6. May 19, 2018 9:25 am

    He looks too young to remember the rationing during the war. Yes it was challenging; but at least we all knew what to do about it and did eventually get rid of the cause. Pleeeese not again!

    Just wonder what he means by “WE have to start telling ——“. I suppose it will be him and a bunch of thugs.

    • May 19, 2018 11:27 am

      I remember hearing my parents and brothers talking about rationing: tires, gasoline, leather, food, etc. Mother had to juggle to keep my 2 older brothers in shoes.

      I was born at the end of 1944 and this probably occurred when I was 4 in 1948. Daddy had built a large plywood blanket box which was in the attic. It had 2 sections and a lid which lifted up. My earliest memory is being in the attic with mother as she got something out of the box. In the bottom were several 25 lb. bags of sugar. Although the war had been over for several years, the effects of rationing were not.

      I have letters written by my undergraduate professor, the late Dr. Earl L. Core. Although he had been on the Cinchona Mission to find the original sources for the quinine plant in South America, he was now running the WVU Biology Dept. The chairman was an officer and off designing better turf for airfields. In his letters to Dr. Strausbaugh, he would tell of the difficulty keeping tires on the car and having gasoline to get to campus as he lived some distance out in the country. Sometimes, he and his family would move into town for the winter to save on these items.

      The pampered elitists of today would be bleating for relief within 5 days.

      • May 19, 2018 12:53 pm

        Joan:

        Thanks for that. I was born in 1935 so experienced the lot and have many an anecdote.
        The one burnt into my mind was when at a boarding school aged circa 8 we were sent with one jar of jam at the beginning of term and that had to last the whole term. I opted for a tin of golden syrup and wound up scraping the sugar crystals from the bottom of the tin near the end of term. All very politically correct these days!!

        Oh. and then there was the time Dad stuffed straw into the tyre to get us through the Mersey Tunnel.

        Good times nonetheless —: realities and inventiveness ruled the days.

        Regards. Alasdair

    • Dave Ward permalink
      May 19, 2018 7:05 pm

      “He looks too young to remember the rationing during the war”

      Actually, you don’t have to go that far back, I’m 62 and remember the oil crisis in 1973 for two reasons. Firstly I got my one and only speeding fine, during the temporary 50mph limit imposed to try and reduce fuel usage. Secondly, petrol rationing booklets were issued (at least, I remember my local filling station providing them to regular customers). Whether this was their own initiative or not I don’t recall, but it was a sober reminder, none the less.

      ” Although the war had been over for several years, the effects of rationing were not”

      I believe some products were still in limited supply when I was born in 1956…

      • Adam Gallon permalink
        May 19, 2018 7:43 pm

        Ration books for petrol were, indeed, issued by the Government in 1973. https://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10319330, food rationing in Britain ended at midnight on 4 July 1954, when restrictions on the sale and purchase of meat and bacon were lifted.

      • May 19, 2018 9:35 pm

        Yes and there was the Suez crisis back in the 50s with severe petroleum rationing and consequences. These young MPs just don’t know and here they are engineering deliberate self made crises as a policy. Heaven help us!

        Without fossil fuels the economy is a dead duck.

  7. Up2snuff permalink
    May 19, 2018 9:46 am

    It’s gonna get tough for vegetarians …..

  8. john cheshire permalink
    May 19, 2018 9:49 am

    I notice, today 19th. May, 2018, the geoengineers aren’t spraying our skies. It must be our reward for watching two people get married.

    • May 19, 2018 11:56 am

      The BBC may be close to not broadcasting such events, given how apologetic they are to the whiners who write in and complain about it.

      • Dave Ward permalink
        May 19, 2018 7:08 pm

        So you saw “News Watch” as well, did you? Actually, I think the licence fee is far too low:

  9. Derek Buxton permalink
    May 19, 2018 9:54 am

    Here we go again, another miss by our non benign government. First they ration Energy, now it is food, not of course that that will affect the fat cats in the toy parliament, just kill off the poor first. Reminds me of a saying from the last war, “First they came for the Jews as I was not one I kept silent, then they came for the lame, but I wasn’t lame……..” but most of you here will I am sure recall the ending.

    • Charles Wardrop, permalink
      May 19, 2018 6:16 pm

      The Scott. Nats (“Natsies”) are even worse and dependent on the Greens: poor Scotland!

      • DaveR permalink
        May 20, 2018 1:22 am

        Qv HMP Glenochil’s 250kW solar array installed 2014, developers latest generation figs last updated 30/08/16… Who’s direction did this come from and who pays for it? Why is it sited within near-invisible confines behind 20′ concrete walls? Keep the bad guys in and the good… inner?

        I’d expect that accurate generation data is available somehow from somewhere… Any links?

        There’s some background blurb at http://www.emtecenergy.co.uk/case-studies/glenochil-prison/

  10. It doesn't add up... permalink
    May 19, 2018 10:17 am

    This man should not be a Conservative. He seems to belong to an extreme wing of the Green Party. I note he had a spell on the Climate Change Select Committee in the last Parliament, when doubtless his indoctrination was completed.

  11. Athelstan permalink
    May 19, 2018 10:26 am

    the rt Hon, Mr. James Heappey.

    I vaguely recall, wasn’t one of the previous governments slogans, “we’re all in it together”?

    Further to that, will he (James Heappey) be joining with the proles when the ashes and sackcloths are being handed round?

    What , do you think?

    • dave permalink
      May 19, 2018 10:30 am

      “What do you think?”

      I think young Master Heappy should go a diet himself, before he interferes with the diet of others:

      “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Heappey#/media/File:Official_portrait_of_James_Heappey_crop_2.jpg

      • Athelstan permalink
        May 19, 2018 6:26 pm

        Yes, yes indeed.

  12. dave permalink
    May 19, 2018 10:30 am

    • dave permalink
      May 19, 2018 10:47 am

      On a serious note, “a low carbon emissions diet” would inevitably be a diet high in starch, sugar, corn syrups, and vitamin-poor vegetable residues. In a sedentary population, like that of the UK and the USA, this is an atrociously awful way to eat. And yet, “high carbs ” has been the mantra of the medical establishment for forty years now. Already an utter disaster for half of the population – just witness the explosion in pasty-faced obesity and waddling diabetes among the early middle-aged, visible on every street.

      • Athelstan permalink
        May 19, 2018 6:27 pm

        free stuff and workless not a good mix.

  13. May 19, 2018 11:18 am

    At a time when the developed countries have the ability to bring civilization to new heights of heath and comfort, here come the elitist group who do not like the lesser people–that would be us–to enjoy these advancements.

    I do not see these elitists depriving themselves of comfort and foods as they preach deprivation to us.

    There was a huge sigh of relief here on November 8, 2016 (actually early in the morning of November 9) when the election of Donald J. Trump was announced. Now the Democrats have decided that they were not left enough. The recent various primaries have brought them actual Marxists. Those on my side are pleased with their direction as it bodes very well–for us–in the elections this fall.

    We averted a return to the Stone Age and I hope you can do likewise.

    • May 19, 2018 4:36 pm

      Written in 1913, this extract from ‘The Flying Inn’ by G K Chesterton rather sums up people like Heappey. For ‘simple’ read today’s ‘green/sustainable jargon’.

      “That poet in the pussy-cat clothes wasn’t half bad. Lord Ivywood isn’t cruel; but he’s inhuman. But that man wasn’t inhuman. He was ignorant, like most cultured fellows. But what’s odd about them is that they try to be simple and never clear away a single thing that’s complicated. If they have to choose between beef and pickles, they always abolish the beef. If they have to choose between a meadow and a motorcar, they forbid the meadow. Shall I tell you the secret? These men only surrender the things that bind them to other men. Go and dine with a temperance millionaire and you won’t find he’s abolished the hors d’oeuvres or the five courses or even the coffee. What he’s abolished is the port and sherry, because poor men like that as well as rich. Go a step farther, and you won’t find he’s abolished the fine silver forks and spoons, but he’s abolished the meat, because poor men like meat—when they can get it. Go a step farther, and you won’t find he goes without gardens or gorgeous rooms, which poor men can’t enjoy at all. But you will find he boasts of early rising, because sleep is a thing poor men can still enjoy. About the only thing they can still enjoy. Nobody ever heard of a modern philanthropist giving up petrol or typewriting or troops of servants. No, no! What he gives up must be some simple and universal thing. He will give up beef or beer or sleep—because these pleasures remind him that he is only a man.”

  14. Chris Lynch permalink
    May 19, 2018 11:40 am

    Strange how this world view always focuses on the West as the place where depopulation needs to occur despite the fact that native Western population has been naturally declining for a considerable period of time anyway. Yet it is completely silent about places like sub Saharan Africa where the population is spiralling upwards unsustainably.

  15. Ian Magness permalink
    May 19, 2018 11:41 am

    Judging by his official photo (see Mr Men images), Mr Happy (or is Mr Greedy a better likeness?) isn’t going to be following his prescribed diet any time soon.

  16. charles wardrop permalink
    May 19, 2018 11:46 am

    Groupthink descends to blind daftness, even amongst “representatives of the people” who have joined the Green blob, who do not think for themselves, perhaps cannot think at all!

  17. May 19, 2018 1:20 pm

    A hugely reduced diet is a fundamental part of “Agenda21:Sustainable Development” a political program being implemented in Brighton UK as “One Planet Brighton” and in Wales as “One Planet Wales” (google them)
    I have written extensively about One Planet Brighton on my blog:-
    http://steelydanswarandpeace.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/sustainable-happiness-is-no-laughing.html
    Brighton politicians have voted to reduce the amount of food eaten locally by 2/3. Yes, that is two thirds.
    Wherever you are in the world, Agenda 21 will eventually reach you.
    Sustainable development is poverty and slavery.
    Sustainable development means shivering in the cold and dark so that in the future they an shiver in the cold and dark
    Sustainable development is a plan to treat humanity like a plague enforced by people who think that humanity IS a plague
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/earthnews/9815862/Humans-are-plague-on-Earth-Attenborough.html

  18. Honestjo permalink
    May 19, 2018 1:22 pm

    I am wondering if I have misunderstood what James Heappey has said but isn’t he actually warning us that this conversation is actually going to have to happen if these ‘decarbonisation policies’ are fully pursued?
    What about an amnesty on diamonds? And pencils? And maybe the odd bag of soot? And should we stop exhaling?
    It all backs down to the oil-hating, eco-green lobby who are driving this and several other agenda.

  19. Simon Allnutt permalink
    May 19, 2018 1:33 pm

    He obviously hasn’t read Eisenhower’s statement about believing scientists who you are paying. Eisenhower made his own mistake in believing Ansel Keys faulty analysis, which resulted in many early deaths, my father’s amongst them.

  20. Broadlands permalink
    May 19, 2018 1:40 pm

    When the arable world becomes filled with “decarbonizing” solar panel and wind turbine “farms”, and new inedible forests of CO2 imbibing trees, there will be little room left for land to grow food, much less space for a growing number of “solar/wind feet” replacing their “carbon footprints” as they “transition” to a “green” world.

  21. RAH permalink
    May 19, 2018 1:58 pm

    I have known that the definition of “conservative” in your politics was different from that we have here in the States. But I never realized that it has evolved into becoming what appears to be the exact opposite!

  22. tomo permalink
    May 19, 2018 2:16 pm

    perhap Heappy is a strict vegan who walks everywhere?

    Not much of an imporovement on predeccessor eejit Ms Munt

  23. May 19, 2018 2:22 pm

    From wikipedia:

    “James Heappey….graduated from the University of Birmingham having studied Political Science.”

    Pretty science free then.

  24. TinyCO2 permalink
    May 19, 2018 4:27 pm

    In some ways he’s not wrong. To achieve the nigh impossible, the unmentionable would be necessary. That involves a lot more than not wasting the food and energy we do use but cutting back on stuff most of us wouldn’t call waste. The sooner we have that conversation the better because people need to realise where all this is going, including MPs.

    When you mention waste to most people they think of half eaten takeaways and too many clothes in their wardrobe. They don’t think of their skiing and sunbathing holidays. They don’t think of the meat they ate last week or their pets. There are a lot of things we do now that are strictly non essential but we’d get pretty feisty about if the government told us we couldn’t have them anymore.

    If more people knew what they were signing up to… there’d be less warming supporters and more people demanding the best science possible and not the booby prize division.

  25. Bill permalink
    May 19, 2018 4:39 pm

    Interesting map. Clock the percentage of land taken up by built up areas.

  26. Douglas Brodie permalink
    May 19, 2018 5:47 pm

    I’ve just sent this Heappey chappie an email, along with all other Conservative MPs and MSPs, to draw their attention to this online post, see https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/the-climate-change-emperors-new-clothes-part-2/

    The post is addressed to Ruth Davidson, Leader of the Scottish Conservatives, a political minnow but a convenient proxy for the wider climate alarmist establishment. It illustrates the shockingly obvious serious flaws in UN IPCC climate science and the climate change reality which is staring these politicians in the face if they would only look that, despite all the political hysteria and reams of policy papers, we have never experienced any discernible man-made global warming and that as the climate is overwhelmingly driven by natural cyclical forces, global cooling is much more likely than global warming over the next 30 years.

    • Athelstan permalink
      May 19, 2018 6:31 pm

      good post and some of us have been saying the same for (in my case) circa Kyoto 20 odd years ago, others were wiser to it (the great green scam) prior to that.

  27. May 19, 2018 6:49 pm

    This ridiculous comment, a tiny extract from the Helm report, fails to begin addressing the devastating conclusions of the report. When policitians/ministers of successive government’s decided to enact uncosted legislation they chose a losing policy, preferring inefficient, costly, and flawed technology over the use of gas. They were always too close to renewable energy companies and their lobbyists and the slush of money has totally obscured the need to protect poor and vulnerable energy users. Regrettably this remains the case today. This MP reveals in these comments he cares nothing for ordinary folk, the obsession to pursue an unachievable and quite unnecessary objective, blinds his analysis of the evidence of global temperature change. It’s worth reading Graham Stringer’s contribution to the debate. Mr Stringer MP has a scientific background unlike Mr Heappey.

  28. martinbrumby permalink
    May 19, 2018 9:15 pm

    Obviously a Heappey of iniquity.
    H/t C.Dickens.

  29. roger permalink
    May 19, 2018 9:41 pm

    After many decades of crop failure it seems that lampposts will carry a surfeit of heavy fruits in the near future as a result of the liberal fertilization emanating from Westminster.

  30. Athelstan permalink
    May 20, 2018 1:03 am

    OK, O/T but have you seen this Paul?

    The 2016-18 Big Chill was composed of two Little Chills, the biggest five month drop ever (February to June 2016) and the fourth biggest (February to June 2017). A similar event from February to June 2018 would bring global average temperatures below the 1980s average. February 2018 was colder than February 1998. If someone is tempted to argue that the reason for recent record cooling periods is that global temperatures are getting more volatile, it’s not true. The volatility of monthly global average temperatures since 2000 is only two-thirds what it was from 1880 to 1999.

    .

    And concludes with this:

    Temperatures may climb from here, so these unusual cooling events need not make mainstream news. But unless that happens soon—and remember that would be bad news—climate reporters will have to discuss cooling, which will mean presenting a more complex story than has been typical in the past. I hope they are up to that task.

    A pretty measured piece and on the conclusion – in no great anticipation we’ll wait and see.

    Link

    • dave permalink
      May 20, 2018 7:51 am

      “…climate reporters will have [sic] to discuss cooling…”

      They will not have [sic] to do any such thing because, as mentioned in other threads, their stock of ‘cracked records’ will serve them, until such time as normal service on temperature- series scares can be resumed.

      The only development which could change the dogma and propaganda is the development of a new scam which relies on ‘global warming’ NOT being true . Then we would see how quickly the wind can change!

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