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Stop Linky!

May 20, 2018

By Paul Homewood

 

2018 May 17 Dieulefit market,   France, campaign against Linky smart meters[5333]

 

One of our readers is in France at the moment and came across this little campaigning stall at the market. Chatting to them, he found out they were campaigning against smart meters!

“Enedis touche pas a mon compteur” means Enedis, don’t touch my meter. (Enedis being the division of EDF who are rolling out the smart meter programme, nicknamed “Linky”.

He gathers that these girls were none too happy about the prospect of wind turbines in their beautiful countryside and solar panels occupying fields that could be growing good food.

 

The Stop Linky campaign has its own website here. It shares most of the concerns we have in the UK, eg:

1) Fire risk

2) Cost – estimated at Eu 10bn. Interestingly, EDF estimate the life of their smart meters at only 15 years, but US experts say that similar systems there only last 5 to 7 years on average.

3) The effect of electromagnetic waves on health and electrical equipment.

4) Privacy

5) The ability of EDF to cut supply to certain equipment

6) Hacking

 

Good on the French! While we in this country just sit back and accept the darned things, they get out on the street and do something about it.

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31 Comments
  1. May 20, 2018 6:37 pm

    That’s great. These smart meters are a gross invasion of privacy, are hackable and little more than stealth tax control mechanisms.
    Hopefully post Brexit we will still maintain close individual relationships with the grass routes of Europe and to hell with the politicians.
    I see in the future trans european political parties emerging. Something needs to done to control the current monolith of vested interest.

  2. Colin Brooks permalink
    May 20, 2018 7:03 pm

    My experience of the French people (apart from Paris ^.^) is wonderful but French politicians I have no time for (a bit like in the UK apart from the Mogg hehe)

    • Gerry, England permalink
      May 21, 2018 12:42 pm

      Even the French hate the Parisiens, I believe.

      • John de France permalink
        May 21, 2018 3:25 pm

        They are often called ‘Parisites’

  3. May 20, 2018 7:49 pm

    France is promising terrain for a revolt against insane green policies, partly because of the ignorance of the political and media élites, and partly because of a natural bloody mindedness that gets people out on the streets in thousands. Having voted for a government which promised to abolish the internal combustion engine and nuclear power by 2040, the French have discovered that they don’t like their considerable remaining wilderness areas being ruined by solar panels and wind turbines. Their siting depends on the permission from rural mayors, who are bribed by the renewable developers into leasing land belonging to the commune. But since the population of these rural communes is often numbered in the dozens, a determined campaign can simply threaten to vote the mayor out of office.

    This grassroots opposition cuts across the considerable popularity of anything considered “green,” and also threatens the position of the environment minister, the ex-presenter of a popular TV eco-documentary series who runs six cars and motor boat, who is number three in the government hierarchy and is its most popular member. He avoids any awkward questions on renewables by changing the subject and talking about re-bearing the Pyrenees. But his rare fumbling appearances on TV, his facial tics, and the misery caused by the surfacing of a couple of old rape and harassment scandals suggests he won’t be with us long. It’s crazy that Europe’s future energy policy may depend on such irrelevant facts, but that’s how it is. If only France’s climate policy were in a safe pair of hands like those of Lord “hamburger” Deben.

  4. Mike H permalink
    May 20, 2018 8:37 pm

    To that list of objections to smart meters should we add security?
    Thieves are already using tech kit to detect the signals from “keyless” car fobs from outside the house, copy them and thus steal the car.
    How easy would it be to monitor a smart meter remotely to see if there’s anyone home?

    • HotScot permalink
      May 20, 2018 9:59 pm

      Mike H

      Please don’t get ants in your pants about sophisticated burglars or car thieves.

      Burglars are mindless, opportunist thugs and the best way of finding out if anyone is home is to knock on their door.

      The easiest and quickest way into a house is by smashing a window, not buying several hundred quids worth of sophisticated equipment that if the Police catch someone with, will incriminate them.

      The easiest way of stealing a car is to nick the keys, not clone them.

      Don’t spread fear when there is none to spread.

      • markl permalink
        May 21, 2018 2:37 am

        Naive response………

      • HotScot permalink
        May 21, 2018 7:25 am

        markl

        Hardly, I’m a retired cop. What are your credentials?

      • Gerry, England permalink
        May 21, 2018 12:51 pm

        We had some of our garden sheds broken into by thieves using the field at the back. Shortly before a drone was seen flying in the field…. So some of them are more sophisticated than Hotscot would have us believe. What they would want is a way of remotely monitoring your meter to know that it was worth the effort of turning up. And while the police might catch them, they will just get another community service order to add to their collection and go on thieving. They have little to fear in our country these days with social workers in charge of the police ‘service’.

      • HotScot permalink
        May 21, 2018 1:34 pm

        Gerry

        sorry, but millions of people have drones, I have one, complete with live pictures streamed to my smart phone. It cost me about £50.

        Seeing a drone, then associating that with having your shed broken into is jumping to conclusions. It doesn’t take a drone to identify a garden shed, they are fairly obvious.

        Like I said, burglars aren’t terribly bright. However, they do know that if they are carrying a drone and a smart phone when they are caught, it’s incriminating evidence, and both are probably worth more than what they are likely to get from a shed.

        “What they would want is a way of remotely monitoring your meter to know that it was worth the effort of turning up.”

        How on earth could a smart meter tell them that? If you take sensible precautions like making sure your home is secure, leave a couple of lights and a radio on when you’re out, and perhaps a cheap shed alarm, they will quickly move on.

    • styleyem permalink
      May 21, 2018 8:03 am

      Or for an energy firm employee to be selling the data en masse to criminals (such as has happened with Telecom companies). That could be invaluable data to criminals stealing high end cars who could have days to get them away before the crime is reported.

    • Gamecock permalink
      May 21, 2018 11:00 pm

      My local power company communicates with my meter via the power cables themselves. No radio involved.

  5. Mike H permalink
    May 20, 2018 8:46 pm

    Further to this post and the earlier one about the DM article, could Paul use his contacts in the media to raise the idea of setting up an online register where folk who are opposed to having meters could lodge their objection? It could work much like the MPS which blocks targetted junk mail, TPS for cold calls, etc..
    Such a register would serve two useful functions:
    1) It would show just how many folk are opposed to these things.
    2) It would put their objection on record which, if someone found a meter had been installed contrary to their wishes, would be evidence of the energy companies doing so against the customers’ recorded objection.

    PS. If such a register is already running, please point me to it!

  6. Dave Ward permalink
    May 20, 2018 8:48 pm

    What a coincidence you should post this on the same day the print version of the Sunday Express had a full page smart meter promotion. It was virtually the same as the online version from a couple of days ago:

    https://www.express.co.uk/featured/life-style/property/960180/Smart-meters-on-trial-how-safe-are-they-and-how-will-they-affect-my-bills

    “Our EXPERT panel responds to YOUR queries”

    “Experts” – Claire Perry MP – Don’t make me larf! I was reading the paper whilst having breakfast, and it nearly led to Cornflakes being splattered all over the wall… Of course, being “Sponsored by Smart Energy GB” means 1) it is a load of cobblers, and 2) they are clearly getting desperate.

  7. May 20, 2018 9:13 pm

    Around here there is a proliferation of “Aeoliennes? Non merci” signs but as yet nothing about smart meters. Our supplier is Engie which is GDF rather than EDF. Perhaps they are waiting to see how their “cousins” progress before diving in.

    Thanks for the heads-up.

    Hulot has a rather attractive bush rose named after him. Apart from that …

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      May 21, 2018 7:29 am

      And in our region of France too, not many Aeoliennes as yet or fields converted from grazing Limousin cattle to harvesting sunlight but quite a few specially built or converted bans with a PV array as a roof. A lot of villages have an “eco” village hall.

      No sign of Linky here abouts, but some welcome investment in telecomms and electricity supply. Our internet access rarely reached 4MB so moved to a 4G Huawei box, giving about 8 minimum. hamlets have to use this or satellite systems, so not just rural areas of UK suffering.

  8. Athelstan permalink
    May 21, 2018 1:00 am

    “Good on the French! While we in this country just sit back and accept the darned things, they get out on the street and do something about it.”

    Probably because the UK paramilitary gendarmerie as was PC Plod would arrest us for hate crimes against the poley bears – probably.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      May 21, 2018 12:55 pm

      It is not as if they spend any time on real policing anymore. It is amazing that people plead for more bobbies on the beat in the mistaken belief that there are ANY on the beat anymore.

  9. Coeur de Lion permalink
    May 21, 2018 6:37 am

    Just had Enedis round to replace their supply box which went ffxxzzpsst with a smell of burning after 44 years plus. Below it is the meter which again was there when we bought the house in 1974. Enedis arrived in a huge van with two large, silent, dreadfully efficient men. I was impressed!
    But a 15 year smart meter? No thanks

  10. Ian permalink
    May 21, 2018 7:44 am

    No need to worry about fracking any more. Drax is going for “cost effective” CCS and will save us:

    http://communicatoremail.com/In/195028995/0/Y37z_iicvBzFzX_U~7piD2FPnygoP6olByi3jRNq5Lq/

  11. Old Englander permalink
    May 21, 2018 8:34 am

    My system’s malware filters rejected the “stop linky” site as infected. Could be a false alarm, but you should be aware.

  12. dennisambler permalink
    May 21, 2018 8:46 am

    Meanwhile, in another continuing sting, the Drax quest for more public fuunds contiues:

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/20/drax-power-station-boss-warns-against-reliance-electricity-imports-interconnectors

    • May 21, 2018 9:25 am

      But “reliance-electricity-imports-american-forests-doubleplusgood” apparently!

  13. Mike H permalink
    May 21, 2018 8:51 am

    HotScot,
    I am sure you are right about the majority of car thieves and burglars but a few of the former are smart enough to steal keyless cars by the method I described. Apparently the counter-measure is simple: keep the fob in an old biscuit tin or similar which will block the signals.
    If there are a few of their brethren who are “smarter than your average burglar”, as Yogi would say, then maybe there is a potential security concern.
    To me it is just one more argument for resisting the damn’ things!

  14. Green Sand permalink
    May 21, 2018 9:24 am

    Anybody come across this before?

    “SIR – The Government is promoting hybrid and electric vehicles as the future, but has failed to convince one very important sector.

    I recently purchased a battery/electric hybrid car and, on contacting my insurance provider to transfer cover from my old petrol vehicle to the new hybrid, was informed that they would not insure it. Further research revealed that a large number of insurance companies and underwriters will not insure this type of vehicle: a situation that the Government and the industry must address without delay.

    Brian Higgins
    Eastbourne, East Sussex”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2018/05/20/lettersthe-straitjacketed-church-england-can-learn-inspirational/

    • Gerry, England permalink
      May 21, 2018 12:57 pm

      That’s cheered me up no end. If you choose to drive around with a bomb on board I am not surprised insurance is not forthcoming.

  15. May 21, 2018 11:51 am

    Well, well, France no less. Whoda thunk it? Not a white flag in sight.

    When I hear “smart” put in the title of something, my antenna go up. It is like amendments on the West Virginia ballot which start with “Better…..”. Vote “no” and run screaming!!

  16. Jack Broughton permalink
    May 21, 2018 12:37 pm

    Meanwhile our wondrous BBC today started a totally unbiased and obviously fair, series about individuals response to global warming with the usual junk-science about coral reefs. My radio just survived! After a long diatribe about warming and El Ninos he actually admitted that the biggest problem for the reefs was local fishing policies, (but that was well hidden or the BBC would not have let him on-air).

    Wonderful to have such fair and open-minded state-broadcasting.

  17. Jeff permalink
    May 21, 2018 12:39 pm

    In our windy part of France we find the turbines magestic, not sure about smart meters although we have one in the UK.

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