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Why the Sun Controls the Climate and CO2 is Meaningless

June 13, 2018

By Paul Homewood


I have long argued that it is the oceans that control atmospheric temperatures, and not the other way round.

The CO2 is Life website explains this in greater detail:




To understand AGW, one must understand quantum physics. The Greenhouse Gas Effect is the thermalization of Longwave Infrared (LWIR) Photons. LWIR is relatively long-wavelength electromagnetic (EM) radiation and having a long-wavelength, it doesn’t pack much energy into a unit of distance. If you view a Slinky (Spring) as an Em Wave, as you pull the Slinky, the less Slinky there is per foot. If a Slinky is 6 inches fully compressed, and you stretch it to 1 foot in length, there is 1/2 the amount of Slinky per inch as a fully compressed Slinky. The more you pull the Slinky apart, the less Slinky there is per inch. If the Slinky represents a quantum of energy, the longer you stretch the Slinky the less energy you have per inch. That is how EM radiation works. Frequency is directly related to energy, and wavelength is inversely related to energy.


As we’ve mentioned countless times on this blog, to understand the climate you have to understand the oceans (Click Here). The oceans, lakes and rivers cover upwards of 70% of the earth’s surface, and water is a highly effective heat sink, storing over 2,000x the energy found in the atmosphere. Very small changes to the energy in the oceans, therefore, means very big changes to the relative energy balance between the oceans and the atmosphere, and the oceans warm the atmosphere, not vice versa.


Climate alarmists point to the warming of the oceans as evidence that CO2 is the cause. The problem with that theory is that they can’t explain how LWIR between 13 and 18µ warms the oceans (Click Here). LWIR between 13 and 18µ doesn’t penetrate the oceans and actually causes cooling through surface evaporation. Additionally, LWIR between 13 and 18µ is very very low energy EM Radiation when compared to EM wavelengths that do actually penetrate and warm the oceans, wavelengths mostly at the blue end of the spectrum. CO2, in reality, is a very weak Greenhouse Gas (Click Here) in terms of warming the atmosphere and the oceans.


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  1. June 13, 2018 7:18 pm

    It is unfortunate that the article shows that figure which refers to storing heat and trapping heat. It should use the word ‘energy’ instead of ‘heat’. Heat is a transient phenomenon (energy transfer between two bodies) which cannot be trapped or stored.

  2. Schrodinger's Cat permalink
    June 13, 2018 9:16 pm

    I agree with all of that. Water is opaque to IR radiation, but visible (solar) will penetrate by 100m depending on the angle of incidence and the turbidity. It is the sun that heats the oceans, not CO2.

    Heat loss by the oceans is hampered by the high heat capacity. Convection is minimum because warm water rises and the warmest is already at the surface. Unless there is lots of turbulence, mixing between warm and cold water is minimal.

    Downwelling IR is not likely to penetrate the water and just encourages more evaporation from the surface.

    The oceans warm the atmosphere by conduction and phase change since the surface water and close to surface air must continually seek equilibrium.

    Whatever traces of carbon dioxide are doing in the atmosphere does not add up to very much.

  3. Athelstan permalink
    June 13, 2018 11:12 pm

    “oceans and the atmosphere, and the oceans warm the atmosphere, not vice versa.”

    er agree but the earth, physics, thermodynamics DEMANDS equilibrium and thus energy transference mainly between Sun – water, air, clouds, rain, rivers – sea and some irradiation lost to the ionosphere and beyond into space.

    The Sun warms the ocean, its conveyor then distributes the enormous masses of water, coriolis being key to that and lunar, solar drag, tilt. and oh……….. thank the Lord for the Magnetosphere, we wouldn’t be here without it.

    CO2 is nice for plants, very nice, what man does is just get in the way really, his puny CO2 efforts are just puffs of air.

  4. June 14, 2018 12:40 am

    Reblogged this on Climate Collections.

  5. Athelstan permalink
    June 14, 2018 8:11 am

    I wonder how Hector is going – up in Scotland, there’s not much down here in the ‘south of the north’.

  6. Phoenix44 permalink
    June 14, 2018 9:01 am

    That bottom graph is such a load of nonsense!

    Drawing a line in the middle of your confidence interval is meaningless – the real number could be anywhere. And if it’s the top of the confidence interval then there’s no ocean heating until the 1990s.

    And 95%? as the American Statistical Association has been saying for a few years now, that doesn’t mean what these people think it means. Take it up to say 99% and see what the graph looks like!

  7. Broadlands permalink
    June 14, 2018 2:59 pm

    The fact remains that over at least the 20th century the equatorial Pacific ENSO (Nino3.4) has done nothing. The El-Nino phase has warmed, the La-Nina has cooled and the “El-Nada” in between has been neutral…by definition.

  8. paul weldon permalink
    June 14, 2018 3:03 pm

    The ocean/ atmosphere is a coupled system and any explanation of why the Earth’s temperature fluctuates that is not based on this fact, is in my opinion biased. The reality is that many factors control Earths temperature including the amount of GHGs in the atmosphere. Trying to determine which factor has what effect is at present not possible, nor, I would guess, will it be within my lifetime. The only certainty, as in any complex system, is that it cannot be attributed to one factor alone.

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