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BBC Fail To Challenge Gummer’s Lies

June 28, 2018
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By Paul Homewood

If you thought the BBC’s coverage of climate could not get any worse, read on.

John Humphrys, who is supposed to be one of the BBC’s best interrogators, interviewed the increasingly unstable John Gummer on BBC Today this morning. (About 1 hour 33 min in).


This coincided with the latest report from Gummer’s Committee on Climate Change, which I will be covering in more depth tomorrow. But Gummer was allowed to get away with three absolutely outrageous lies, which, to his eternal shame, were not challenged at all by Humphreys:

Gummer – 1) Even where a community wants to have an onshore wind farm, it can’t have it.

As I have previously pointed out, this is an outright lie, perpetuated by the renewable lobby and repeated by their friends in the media, not least Roger Harrabin.

So, at the risk of repeating myself, the Tory government has not banned onshore wind farms, it has merely withdrawn subsidies to new developments. It has also vested planning permission at a local level.

So, in very simple terms that even Gummer ought to understand, if a company wants to build a wind farm, and the local community wants it, there is nothing at all to stop it going ahead.

Gummer – 2) This is sheer dogma. The fact of the matter is it (onshore wind) is the cheapest form of producing electricity today.

Gummer really contradicts himself here. If onshore wind really was so cheap, new developments would be springing up all over the place.

In reality, developments have dried up since subsidies were withdrawn.

Gummer will doubtlessly be able to pull all sorts of theoretical costings out of his hat. However, the actual subsidies awarded to onshore wind farms prior to the ending of such subsidies trumps any fake claims he might put forward.

In simple terms:

a) Most onshore wind generation to date is subsidised via the Renewable Obligation scheme, which awards it 0.9 ROC/MWh. This is currently worth £42.50/MWh, on top of the value of electricity produced, which is about £45/MWh

b) Since the RO scheme was withdrawn, larger onshore schemes have been subsidised via the CfD process. Schemes awarded contracts recently, most of which have not even started operating yet, get an index linked, guaranteed price of between £87.53 and £91.94/MWh, again approximately double the market price.



Gummer – 3) China, in many ways, is doing more than any country (in terms of decarbonisation).

One wonders what Gummer has been smoking!

Whilst the rapid growth of Chinese emissions in the early 2000’s has abated because of slower economic growth, there is no indication at all that emissions will actually start to fall.


And as Gummer ought to know, China’s INDC for Paris did not commit them to reduce CO2 emissions at all, merely a meaningless “promise” to reduce CO2 per unit of GDP.

China’s self declared primary objective is to grow its economy, and improve its people’s standard of living. If it is successful, emissions will continue to grow rapidly until at least 2030.

And China have made no secret of the fact that, to provide the energy for this economic growth, it will need to substantially increase its coal-fired capacity.

It is of much concern that Britain’s climate policy is, to a large extent, in the hands of somebody who either does not understand the simplest of facts, or is prepared to lie through his teeth.

Unfortunately we also have the BBC, who are so supine as to allow such blatant lies to be broadcast without a murmur of a challenge.

  1. John F. Hultquist permalink
    June 29, 2018 2:34 am

    China makes sure the world sees the “green” things it does, for example shutting the dirtiest of its small old coal plants or asking for more electric autos. Meanwhile, the newer power plants are not highly publicized. Information is available but an important person busy saving the world would not find the time to read such stuff.

  2. June 29, 2018 5:25 am

    I listened live to Deben being interviewed on Radio 4 by John Humphries, but I couldn’t bear to listen to it again. Deben told a pack of lies from start to end and Humphries had no clue what questions to pose. As I recall, at one point (talking about how to prosecute the Government for not obeying the Climate Change Act), Deben said the answer was above his pay grade. I immediately thought that flipping burgers (remembering him as John Gummer) was way above his pay grade.

    To think Deben advises the Government; no wonder the country is in a mess. He (and the rest of the committee) should be prosecuted for deceiving the Government.

    • A C Osborn permalink
      June 29, 2018 7:53 am

      On the TV News he also asked what car Deben drove, so that he could proudly declare he drove Hybrid and would switch to al Electric when the range increased next year.

    • BLACK PEARL permalink
      June 29, 2018 10:40 am

      The Govt isn’t deceived He’s their paid professional lair
      He was the one in charge to mitigate & campaign at the Mad Cow beef panic to tell everyone you shouldn’t stop eating beef and it couldn’t transfer to humans, because the govt Chief Medical Officer said so.
      But of coarse they were lying again as one one brave female scientist with integrity stated that it could transfer and its still an ongoing problem

      • BLACK PEARL permalink
        June 29, 2018 10:42 am

        So hes got all the qualities & morals to be the head the CCC

  3. Bitter@twisted permalink
    June 29, 2018 7:19 am

    I feel a complaint to the Biased Bull$hit Cartel is in order.

    • June 29, 2018 8:45 am

      A complaint to your MP (asking him why a Government advisor is a serial liar and does the Government know he is a serial liar) would have more effect.

  4. June 29, 2018 7:51 am

    China, in many ways, is doing more than any country (in terms of decarbonisation)

    Not unrelated to having by far the highest number of out-of-date and inefficient coal-fired power stations of any nation, which are being replaced with new ones.

    • A C Osborn permalink
      June 29, 2018 7:55 am

      Plus of course you have to actually believe what China report, which is not necessarily a good idea.

  5. June 29, 2018 7:55 am

    The BBC has its own internal politically correct* agenda. This generates the questions and challenges put to those being interviewed.
    Thus a politically correct* interviewee gets a free ride, whereas the non politically correct* interviewee gets a hard time with constant interruptions.
    You only have to compare the treatment of Lord Lawson with that of Gummer to appreciate this bias.

    (* The term “correct” here being an oxymoron)

  6. roger permalink
    June 29, 2018 8:55 am

    The man’s name is Gummer.
    After their disgraceful shenanigans last week these people with archaic undeserved and meaningless titles are certainly not ‘my lords’ and the sooner we are rid of them the better.
    Wasn’t there a film a few years ago called ‘Gummer and Gummer’?

    • Bitter@twisted permalink
      June 29, 2018 10:25 pm

      I refer to Gummer as Lord “Dipin”, for obvious reasons.

  7. Phoenix44 permalink
    June 29, 2018 9:13 am

    China’s promise to reduce CO2 emissions per unit of GDP is not meaningless, it is exactly what it should be doing. It simply states that energy use will become more efficient. Of course China agreed to that – that is the aim of every sensible economic policy everywhere because that is what productivity is: using the same inputs to create more, or fewer inputs to create the same.

    I wonder if the brilliant negotiators at Paris even understood that?

  8. Dave Ward permalink
    June 29, 2018 10:14 am

    “The next generation will bear the cost”

    Indeed they will – there won’t be any money left to pay for for reliable generation, when all those subsidised wind & solar farms are removed at the end of their 25 year lifespan (as we are regularly told they will be by, the developers)…

    • DaveP permalink
      June 29, 2018 11:01 am

      Yes, the next generation(s) will curse us for our stupidity in squandering bi££ions of their inheritance trying to solve an imaginary problem.

  9. MrGrimNasty permalink
    June 29, 2018 10:41 am

    Glad you picked this up Paul, I heard it ‘live’ and my head almost exploded!

    It’s hard to understand how such biased/dishonest output can exist from a supposedly professional purveyor of the supposed truth.

    Contrast that with what happened after one misspoken statement by Lawson, his mind diminished somewhat by age, but no intent to deliberately deceive.

  10. Harry Passfield permalink
    June 29, 2018 6:00 pm

    I don’t do Twitter, but if l did l would link this post to TOADY and JH….

  11. Colin Brooks permalink
    June 29, 2018 6:20 pm

    For Lord Dumber it has never really been about climate change even though he is head of CCC:

    I do say to those who are sceptical about Climate Change…..clearly there is no need to talk about Climate Change because we have got to do all these things anyway if we are going to meet “the needs of 9 billion people

    Lord Deben 4th Sept 2012
    Interview with DECC Committee.

    Let’s say that science, some decades from now, said ‘we were wrong, it was not about climate’, would it not in any case have been good to do many of things you have to do in order to combat climate change?.

    Connie Hedegaard Sept 2013

    Just call him Mathus 🙂

    • Colin Brooks permalink
      June 30, 2018 11:15 am



  12. June 30, 2018 9:38 am

    There’s a transcript of the Today programme interview with Lord Deben, here:

  13. June 30, 2018 1:37 pm

    Crazy farming policies: Farmers get a cheque for burning straw and other waste, so they’ll have their heating on all the time – the more heat the more money. 2. Their Basic Payment, which runs to £thousands, which increases the value of farm land, which makes it impossible for younger farmers with limited access to £millions. So there’s a Young Farmers Scheme which is a second subsidy to iron out the effects of the first subsidy.

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