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Droughts, Famines and Floods In The 1870s

November 12, 2018
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By Paul Homewood

 

I am always puzzled by those who decry the world’s slightly warmer climate since pre-industrial times.

They seem to think the climate was perfect then. Perhaps they should study a bit of history, such as this snippet from HH Lamb’s Climate, History and the Modern World:

 

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And it was not just Europe:

  

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HH Lamb – Climate, History and the Modern World – p254-6

11 Comments
  1. matelot 69 permalink
    November 12, 2018 6:21 pm

    So perhaps weather is cyclic? The climate will take more to change it in the long term than puny humans.

  2. Mack permalink
    November 12, 2018 6:45 pm

    Well done Paul. Another nail in the coffin of the meme that recent weather extremes are, somehow, unprecedented and caused by the recent rise in CO2 levels. FYI, the ‘pop up advert’ bogeyman has returned to your site when viewing via iPad.

  3. tom0mason permalink
    November 12, 2018 7:24 pm

    Yes indeed Paul, the weather/climate people of yesteryear had to have a very good understanding of climate history, and a better appreciation of what was and what was not known and understood. Their methods were old-school, relying on objective observations, digging through the archives, and applying their own personal hard gained knowledge and experience.
    I wager their weather/climate forecasting skills were as good as, if not mostly better than the computer controlled consensus climate people of today.
    Can today’s weather forecasters do significantly better than those of the 1950s to the 1980s?
    I doubt it.
    Were the old-timers climate forecasts better? No better than today’s.
    The cost difference? £Billions.

    • bobn permalink
      November 13, 2018 10:31 am

      The best long range forecasters look at jetstream flows, and then the moon and astronomical cycles. The importance of astronomy is covered by HH Lamb and he states this is where research is needed to determine precisely how these work. Of course $billions are now spent on computer gaming fake assumptions and nil on the necessary deep research. But given the moons gravity lifts and the moves the oceans by approx 3m (the tides) as it orbits and its orbit varies, and ocean occillations move climate, then how does the moon’s orbit relate to ocean movements and climate cycles?
      Also the gravity of planets affect the sun. When Jupiter, saturn , uranus, earth are aligned together they pull on the sun and move the centre of mass of the solar system. How does this influence and produce climate cycles? Where are the $ to research these important questions which were all mentioned in HH Lamb’s books of 40yrs ago?
      Astronomy has the answers to climate change questions.

      • tom0mason permalink
        November 13, 2018 12:53 pm

        👍 🙂

      • Ben Vorlich permalink
        November 13, 2018 4:20 pm

        In rural France most gardening is the growing of vegetables, this is done using books based on lunar events.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      November 13, 2018 1:55 pm

      Robin Page put forward his view in a recent book that weather forecasting has got worse as the technology has increased. The problem is the models – they don’t work. Last weekend, Wunderground was wrong for both days when viewed the night before. If they are no use even the day before what is their point?

      • bobn permalink
        November 13, 2018 2:13 pm

        I do my own basic forecasts (UK) and looking at the jetstream gives a good idea of the big picture weather 2 weeks out. So the calm and mild conditions up to sunday can be seen then next week the change to colder easterlies. Below is a good site to view the jetstream.

        https://www.netweather.tv/charts-and-data/jetstream

  4. November 12, 2018 10:27 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate Collections.

  5. November 13, 2018 12:27 pm

    We must find Michael Mann and petition him to declare that that period simply did not exist. After all he did that with the Medieval Warming and Little Ice Age. But hold on. Since it falls within the handle of his infamous “hockey stick curve,” perhaps he already deleted it.

  6. November 15, 2018 7:21 pm

    Reblogged this on WeatherAction News and commented:
    Now that’s what I call Climate Change

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