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Gummer Wants All New Homes To Be Off Gas Grid By 2025

February 21, 2019
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By Paul Homewood


From silly Jilly:




Gas hobs could be banned from being installed in new homes within seven years over fears that they are harming the environment.

Under new plans unveiled on Thursday by climate watchdogs no new homes will be connected to the gas grid after 2025 at the latest, in order for the UK to meet its legally binding climate targets.  

The proposals, from Government’s official climate advisers, would call time on new gas radiators, boilers and cooking hobs.

The move away from gas hobs is likely to disappoint many home cooks who prefer them to electric as they find the heat is easier to control.   

Instead, the Committee on Climate Change has said new homes should rely solely on low-carbon heat sources, such as electric heat pumps or district heating schemes.

Lord Deben, the committee’s chairman, said: “Simply put, there is no way in which the UK can meet the legally-binding climate change targets that Parliament has determined unless we take the measures outlined in this report.”

The report calls for the millions of new-build homes to be built in the coming years to meet ultra-high energy efficiency standards, and be timber-framed where possible.

Meanwhile, the UK’s 30 million existing homes should face tougher energy efficiency standards by improving insulation and taking up new low-carbon heat technologies too.

Chris Stark, the committee’s chief executive, said the “cultural shift” away from gas is “not one that we should be scared of”.

“We know that these technologies work; they provide exactly the same level of comfort, are more efficient, and of course they are greener too,” he said.

The UK is bound by law to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 80pc from the 1990s by 2050 under the Climate Change Act. Home heating is “very much on the front line” of the UK’s battle against climate change as it makes up around a fifth of the UK’s greenhouse gas emissions.

“The question of low-carbon heat, plus improved energy efficiency, and adapting our housing stock for the changing climate stands as one of the biggest infrastructure questions that we have in the UK at the moment,” he said.


I’m not sure why the headline only refers to hobs, as the real problem lies with boilers.

This proposal only applies to new houses at the moment, but I suspect it will soon be extended to existing ones as well.

Gummer’s proposals go way beyond gas hobs:




New homes are barely affordable at the moment for new buyers, and this catalogue of requirements will simply serve to add thousands more onto the cost of buying.

Equally, existing home owners will be less likely to afford them either.


But, back to the issue of gas, and some facts that Jillian Ambrose forgot to mention:


1) Electricity is much dearer than gas. Currently I pay 12.36p/KWh for electric, but only 2.46p/KWh for gas.

2) While heat pumps can be more efficient than gas central heating and help offset some of this price difference, they are also expensive to install. It is also questionable whether they are fully effective in cold weather.

3) Demand for gas in winter peaks at around 350 GW, seven times as high as electricity.

To even partially convert gas to electricity would involve a massive expansion of power capacity, as well as upgrading of distribution networks.


4) There is then the question of where this electricity will come from. Currently all output from wind and solar power is fully maximised on the grid. Any extra demand can only be met from other sources, which effectively means gas or nuclear.

Given that we are struggling to get enough nuclear built to meet existing requirements, this means gas. As it is much more efficient to burn gas in people’s homes, rather than generate electricity to transmit, Gummer’s policy won’t even reduce emissions, it will likely increase them.

If, on the contrary, we are to build enough wind farms to meet extra demand, (solar being useless in winter), these wind farms will be surplus to requirements for most of the year.

Indeed, the same will apply to the CCGT plants needed as back up.

From a financial point of view, the plan is a hugely expensive non starter.


All this, of course, only applies to new houses. But how long will it be before the rules are extended to existing housing stock. After all, with only about 150,000 new houses built a year, Gummer’s proposals will have little effect on overall domestic emissions when there are another 30m houses out there already.

It is the thin end of the wedge, and I suspect that we will soon see sales of conventional gas boilers, ovens and heaters banned for all households, not just new ones.


In the meantime, Gummer’s list of things existing homeowners must do is a long one:



And, ominously, guess who is going to pay?


“Polices are needed for households deemed able-to-pay”

TRANSLATION – most homeowners will be forced to pay for a range of home “improvements”, which they neither want nor can afford.

And it won’t just end with a bit of insulation. They will be forced to pay thousands of pounds for all sorts of other nonsense, such as indoor air quality and overheating.

And all of this will have to be enforced by “greater levels of inspection and stricter enforcement of building standards are required, alongside stiffer penalties for non-compliance”



Watch out, the Climate Stasi are coming after you!


And what will all of this achieve? Forget about the Chinese and Indians. Closer to home, Germany, who are already using 15% more gas than we are, are busy building NordStream 2, which will pump in huge new supplies of gas from Russia.

It is ironic that any government department putting forward new policies must thoroughly cost them. Yet Gummer’s CCC can recommend any old rubbish, without telling how much we will have to pay.


The country never voted for the Climate Change Act, nor its climate targets. And they certainly never voted to have their gas supplies taken away from them.

It is time for the government to draw a line in the sand, and tell Gummer where to put his advice.

  1. Peter Yarnall permalink
    February 21, 2019 2:43 pm

    And, due to what we have previously seen about Gummer’s business interests, we need to ascertain how he will gain financially from this policy.

    • CheshireRed permalink
      February 21, 2019 4:41 pm


      This is a naked attempt to remove gas from use, and he ain’t doing that without reason.

      Definitely a case to investigate.

    • February 21, 2019 6:05 pm

      Pretty much the entire Green Blob is invested in electricity, hence any rise in demand for it is the objective, as we see also with electric cars.

    • Adrian permalink
      February 21, 2019 6:08 pm

      “And, ominously, guess who is going to pay?”

      Well who else is there to pay? Governments ONLY have our money, by whatever indirect routes they feel fool us, unless they print loads to cover up their past set of cretinous ideas, but man that’s another story.

      Vote for ’em, get hammered by ’em.

      Your choice.

  2. February 21, 2019 2:56 pm

    I agree with your assessment that heat pumps are expensive; especially if is a ground source variety – re-circulating well or a closed loop model filled an anti-freeze solution – buried longitudinally or well bored vertically.

    Any home employing this heating mode needs to have an air-tight, (and lots of insulation and proper windows) home built to high standards. This costs more but not earth-shatteringly so, and is a good investment no matter the fuel. Comfortable living is the key both in summer and winter.

    Living in Ottawa Canada, we have a temperature range of -30 to +35C and my home has remained comfortable at all times over the last 26 years.

    The key is building for high efficiency because once built it is very, very expensive to retrofit a building.

    • bobn permalink
      February 22, 2019 1:44 am

      Ground source heat pumps work well – if well installed. (my parents-in-law have them) But the payback is 20yrs plus on install cost. And they really can only go into new build. Also you need a large site to install in. This makes grd source non viable for the uk – not big enough land housing plots. But if you have 4 acres to build your country mansion (like Gummer) on then its a good option.

  3. Harry Passfield permalink
    February 21, 2019 2:58 pm

    Brexit, with or without a ‘deal’ will be as nothing compared to the potential for the chaos that will be caused by ‘de-carbonisation’ & electrification.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      February 22, 2019 1:36 pm

      A no deal Brexit that will collapse the economy will leave them with no time and more importantly no money for any of this lunacy.

  4. February 21, 2019 3:01 pm

    All new politicians should be hell bent on getting rid of this disastrous Climate Change Act starting with sacking the corrupt Climate Committee.

  5. Colin Brooks permalink
    February 21, 2019 3:14 pm

    It is time for the government to draw a line in the sand, and tell Gummer where to put his advice.
    I think it is time that ‘we the people’ told the government that this needs to become a free and democratic country again:

    Salt, legislated out of our food
    Animal fat, legislated out of our food even though it has now been declared safe.
    Unwanted electric cars legislated into our lives.
    Much loved combustion engined cars legislated out of our lives.
    Beef on its way to being legislated out of our food.
    I am sure you all could add many more 😦

  6. February 21, 2019 3:42 pm

    When we have totally inept politicians who just do what the corrupt civil service tells them and when they are advised by numerous corrupt NGOs who are backed up by a corrupt media, then there is no way that these socialist 5-year plans and ever more regulations can be stopped. We need a leader who is prepared to completely drain the swamp. It isn’t going to happen in our lifetimes.

  7. Athelstan. permalink
    February 21, 2019 4:01 pm

    It is as if both major UK political parties have moved from green nuts to gone off a cliff totalled.

    And whosoever is the instigator of this latest piece of ‘ban gas in new build houses’ ocean going green lunacy (EU-HMG-BEIS).

    It must be noted, that, gummer and his crew (he of the peculation corruption core) lot are just the mouthpiece announcer and ‘flag flyer’. Note well that, the lav party are going even more GREEN MENTAL – as per Paul’s recent post: see Rebecca Long Bailey’s (labour shadow energy sec) latest effort to trash industry and manufacturing in the UK and the unilateral suicide note, mind you Jezza’s all round Bolshevik imposed economic nuclear winter will do for Britain anyway..

    What is going on?

    I am really at a loss to explain why the majority of Brits seem to be so very unconcerned by this horlicks green policy unfolding disaster (what’s it going to take?) – do they not care, can’t they see the ruination it will cause, is causing – notwithstanding the likes of Honda and all?

    As we note, Westminster is in flux, the rats are deserting the ship a, s the Leave the EU date for Britain Looms.


    It might just cross the dimly lit minds of the woolly heads in Parliament that the green agenda ins’t a UK electorate priority but COULD, SHOULD be. Also that, UK energy policy must be reined in and realigned to more sensible strategy and if I pray to God that, we do get out of the baleful sclerosis namely the Brussels Empire, immediately the UK could rescind, forthwith to disentangle this nation from the appallingly ill considered EU’s diktats to decarbonize and thus, to go it alone and bin all the green guff.

    Will the opportunity be grasped, if, if, if? One small glimmer of hope, the madame de diversity and cultural Marxist nutter – Theresa May has promised to vamoose, that’s one green fundamentalist wimin – less.

    • Colin Brooks permalink
      February 21, 2019 4:11 pm

      No chance my old friend 🙂
      The UN (whence all this green crap originates) is standing waiting and the public know nothing about it.

      • Athelstan. permalink
        February 21, 2019 5:34 pm

        Out of the EU and then bin the UN.

  8. A C Osborn permalink
    February 21, 2019 4:06 pm

    Have you guys seen the new Independent Group’s Statement?
    “As part of the global community we have a responsibility to future generations to protect our environment, safeguard the planet, plan development sustainably and to act on the urgency of climate change.

    Same Old.

    • February 21, 2019 6:08 pm

      Maybe if more Tory wets defect the remainder might become worth voting for.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        February 22, 2019 1:40 pm

        It made me laugh when Soubry talked about millions not having anyone to vote for. As a conservative I haven’t had anyone to represent me for decades. Alistair Heath of the normally crap Telegraph did write a sensible piece on how to have new parties commenting that the Blue Labour economic policies are even more left than Blair’s New Labour.

  9. February 21, 2019 4:17 pm

    “”…Chris Stark, the committee’s chief executive, said the “cultural shift” away from gas is “not one that we should be scared of”…””

    Then why are the CCC, tarnished by revelations about its Chairman, Lord Deben, wilfully ignoring, burgeoning developments in advanced nuclear power reactors? After all, they can supply both low-carbon electricity and heat and hot water for buildings.

    They have never mentioned the unique BWRX-300 SMR, which is a reactor design that is so simple, and therefore cost-effective, it is unlikely to be bettered from an overnight cost perspective.

    In 15 years time the 300 MWe, BWRX-300 will be available at a cost of £462 million. It will have its EPZ at the boundary fence of its tiny site, meaning it can be located close to centres of population. It is rated at 900 MWt so can be configured for CHP operation and provide not only 24/7, low-carbon electricity, but also much of the heating and hot water to buildings which, of itself, accounts for 40% of all of the UK’s energy use.

    The UK uses 340 TWh per year of electricity. 150 of these BWRX-300 SMRs would supply 100% of that 24/7 electricity and much of the heat and hot water we use, for 60 years at a cost of £70 billion.

    For renewables to supply 340 TWh, desecrating our countryside is a big issue, so maybe solar would creep up to 10% and wind would probably split to 30% onshore and 60% offshore for the rest.

    Solar would cost £43 billion, onshore £48 billion, offshore £115 billion. Then, when the Sun don’t shine and the wind don’t blow, we’d have to have £38 billion of CCGTs. Backed-up intermittent electricity for just 25/30 years tots up to £244 billion. So for 60 years that would be around £553 billion.

    We can choose to pay £70 billion for guaranteed 24/7, low-carbon electricity and much of the heat and hot water for buildings for 60 years.

    Or we can choose to pay 7.9X more in overnight cost and 100X more cost in terms of scenic desecration, resource waste, ecosystem destruction, species wipe out and waste mountains.

    The CCC is Hell-bent on advising the Government to go the way of the latter option and it will be us – the bill payers and tax payers – who shoulder the financial burden. Instead of spending our own money on our own lifestyle choices, we’ll be putting money into the pockets of people like Lord Deben.

  10. John Peter permalink
    February 21, 2019 4:23 pm

    I am keeping my yellow vest handy as at one point, when the wallet is emptied by Gummer & Co, then I will join the millions entering the street in yellow vests. It is bound to come like in France when the ‘theft’ for climate change mitigation has reached the stage where the financial burden becomes both too large and visible to the ordinary person. The Brits are more patient than the French, but there will come a point where resistance will be stirred to action. A couple of power cuts will also help.

    • keith permalink
      February 21, 2019 5:15 pm

      I fully agree here. I think it will happen when the Government formally tries to ban ICE cars. People will then really be out on the streets, the same in France and probably Germany.

      But on the issue of the article I thought a grid report in the last year or so had said they cannot cope with a change in heating. They’ll have enough on their hands with millions of EVs. Not only that I assume all public transport and trucks will have to go electric, and with what must be thousands of miles of diesel rail track that will have to be electrified, one, where will the money come from and two there is no way this conversion could be done in the time span allowed. After all the Government does not have a good record of handling these sort of projects on time and in budget, just look at Crossrail and HS2.

  11. Sam Duncan permalink
    February 21, 2019 4:35 pm

    “We know that these technologies … provide exactly the same level of comfort, are more efficient …”

    Oh, do we, now? Then surely everyone will be clamouring to use them without being forced by the awful majesty of the law, then.

    Just wait until the Conservatives get in…

    Oh. Right.


  12. February 21, 2019 5:19 pm

    Easy, just close and lock the gas valves. There might be a run on wood, but CO2 from wood is net zero because you will grow new wood. We’ll be cutting the forests in the US because of the Green New Deal, so you probably won’t be able to count on the colonies for your wood chips.

    • Jon Scott permalink
      February 21, 2019 5:43 pm

      There is NO mathematics known to man which can equate burning a tree in minutes and releasing the CO2 contained within and saying that is offset by growing a tree over 30-50 years.If the public are so dense that they accept that then they deserve everything they get!

    • February 21, 2019 6:12 pm

      Trees will be a thing of the past if the NGD is adopted, as people fell them for firewood.

  13. markl permalink
    February 21, 2019 5:28 pm

    And in California new home builds are now required to have solar panels (details uncertain). Cities are mandating EVs by certain dates all over America in an effort to out-virtue signal each other. No one is calling out these politicians on the absurdity of their demands yet it is well known the infrastructure cannot support the extra load and neither can the energy generation….. whether if it comes from “renewables” or not. It’s also a certainty that these ultimatum dates will come and pass without realizing the stated goals even if we could afford the cost, and we cannot. Buy stock in yellow vests.

  14. Jon Scott permalink
    February 21, 2019 5:29 pm

    So let me get this straight. This is all driven by “fears” NOT facts about an as yet TOTALLY unproven issue which has yet to be a problem except in the mind of very disturbed people…and IPCC models of the future…..exploited to the full by maggots like Gummer and the rest of those unscrupulous businessmen and women cashing in on the alarmist scare!

    I “thought” gas was supposed to be ok and clean? But burning wood pellets which gram per gram produce more CO2 per calorie than coal as well as particulates, imported from America on diesel powered ships is OK?? There is not one ounce of logic or common sense in this zealotry. BullSh1t is not a strong enough word!


  15. FrankSW permalink
    February 21, 2019 5:42 pm

    You say
    “Demand for gas in winter peaks at around 350 GW, seven times as high as electricity.”

    So once we have dismantled the gas distribution system we will need 7x the electric capacity available, one assumes much of this would be provided by gas……….at around half the efficiency.

    Good news for the UK gas importers then

  16. Revd Philip Foster permalink
    February 21, 2019 5:46 pm

    Firstly it is utter madness to turn vast amounts of electricity back into heat.
    Secondly and much more seriously:
    18,000,000 homes in the UK are currently heated by gas. In 2025 (and no later than 2035, 10 years being the lifetime of an average gas boiler) these will all be replaced by electrical heating.
    An average gas boiler is 25KW
    An average person comes home from work at, say, 6pm and turns on the heating (25KW), plugs in his EV (8KW), turns on the oven (5KW) and takes a shower (7KW) – all at peak demand time.
    Thus each household will be consuming electricity at the rate of 43KW. Let’s call that 40KW to make the sums simpler.
    Thus at peak time the UK will need:
    It is equivalent of 180 Drax sized power stations. Oh, and then there is the replacement cabling required to carry ten times the current!

    As they say, “Go figure!”

    • February 21, 2019 11:17 pm

      Actually I think it could be far worse than that. We worked out recently, based on real world use (not on official figures) that in winter it would take 7KW per vehicle per day just to do the average daily commutes to work for my wife and I. Considering a lot of families have at least two cars and those with teenagers living at home may have even more and they will all be plugged in during the evening when people get back from work/school, it would require 150-200GW just to power the EV’s (if all internal combustion vehicles were replaced with electric).

  17. deejaym permalink
    February 21, 2019 5:51 pm

    Can’t tell you how shocked I am to read this :

  18. Gas Geezer permalink
    February 21, 2019 6:04 pm

    Oh sh*t only five years to retrain !

  19. richardw permalink
    February 21, 2019 6:41 pm

    Part of my preparations for the impending increase in electricity prices is the installation of a gas range to replace our current electric oven and hob. Gas is far more energy efficient, suffers no conversion losses and is a lot cheaper than current electricity prices per KWh. It is actually surprising how much energy is used in cooking, particularly when the family is around. You can save a lot of electricity by microwaving food where possible. I suspect government advice on saving power in the kitchen would go down like a lead balloon but I can also imagine new ‘green’ cooking programmes and books!

    Still, on the bright side, we wouldn’t need to suffer the damaging emissions caused by roasting beef.

  20. johnbillscott permalink
    February 21, 2019 6:52 pm

    I use oil for heating, however, this requires electricity for the blower. In the event of a power outage I can keep cozy and warm with my propane fire. At some point in the not too distant future the UK will freeze in the dark and industry cease production with the present and so called progressive energy charlatans like greedy finger Gummer. Making him a Lord did not create intelligence, but, paved the way to disguise his unethical dealings and greed. No tugging of the forelock as he monetarily rapes the citizenry. He needed to be hounded out of his positions as he obviously cannot be trusted.

  21. JCalvertN permalink
    February 21, 2019 8:08 pm

    Note to self: Buy shares in LPG cylinder distribution companies.

  22. Coeur de Lion permalink
    February 21, 2019 8:20 pm

    Cannot somebody give silly Jilly a good kicking? Oh, intellectually I mean

  23. Mike Jackson permalink
    February 21, 2019 8:28 pm

    I posted the following comment this morning:

    “There are no “legally binding” climate targets. The Secretary of State has the power to determine under the Climate Change Act what the targets are to be and to vary them as circumstances dictate — even to the point of reducing them to zero.

    Even assuming that reducing atmospheric CO2 levels is necessary and that the levels emitted by human activity are relevant nothing that the UK can do will reduce global temperature by a measurable amount. Our politicians are virtue-signalling again while filling the coffers of large companies, not least those which employ Lord Deben (in positions where there is no conflict with his post as chairman of the Climate Change Committee, of course) at the expense of the consumer who will have to foot the bill through subsidies on ever higher bills for the intermittent supply from wind and solar generated electricity.

    Good luck with cooking your Christmas dinner on a day when the whole of western Europe is sitting under a static high pressure area, the temperature is hovering around 0°C and the wind isn’t blowing!

    Whether or not global warming / climate change is real or a matter of concern is not the issue here. What is very much the issue is the extent to which quangos like the CCC — virtually all the members of which have an interest, political, financial or philosophical, in the “fight” against it — dictate government policy by claiming an “independence” they do not genuinely have.”

    • David Bishop permalink
      February 23, 2019 10:24 pm

      Mike, a first-rate response, as ever.

      The frustration is that tptb seem to be utterly in thrall to the ‘green dream’, which is actually a nightmare to the rest of us. I’ve written to my MP, who seems to airily dismiss the concerns I express, despite being sensible on so many other matters.

  24. MrGrimNasty permalink
    February 21, 2019 11:01 pm

    Well that is really going to mess up the ‘this windmill installation will power X number of homes’ claims. He clearly hasn’t thought it through!

  25. Charlie Moncur permalink
    February 22, 2019 12:42 am

    The 2008 Climate Change Act is a self imposed legal requirement. The Act must be repealed. Gummer’s advice reeks of self interest. £600k comes to mind.

  26. Malcolm Bell permalink
    February 22, 2019 8:26 am


    Your system used to enter my name and email automatically. Can you reinstate it please?

    I cannot aggre more strongly with those who illustrate the basic problems with the whole scheme -like grid capacity, generator capacity, cost, physical impossibility of actually making the change etc etc. My sense of simple helplessness in the path of these scientific and Engineering illiterates persuing heaven knows what pseudo-religious agenda derived from hysteria not logic brings me to mear despair.

    I can only see a profound Dark Age ahead – both literally and intellectually during which the human population will collapse. Probably a very welcome outcome.

  27. Gerry, England permalink
    February 22, 2019 1:48 pm

    Cast your mind back to the days of peaking oil prices and a tale of ground source heat pumps. With heating oil increasing in price the smart GSHP salesmen were out in force and managed to convince the writer’s neighbour to fit one. Our columnist wasn’t convinced and stayed with oil. Then came the oil price war from the Saudis and Russians against fracking. Heating oil halved in price so our writer was happy. Not so the neighbours who now had a whopping great electricity bill since the pumps needs power.

    As for gas, it is a shame the pig-headed unions saw the UK embark on the ‘dash for gas’ to prevent the miners and railway workers from ever holding the country to ransom again. Coal is much better burned centrally for generation and gas supplied directly to factories and homes.

    • February 22, 2019 11:00 pm

      Yes agreed Gerry.

      We burn anthracite in our Rayburn. I understand that it is not the most efficient but I am not convinced it is quite as bad as claimed by some. 10kg of anthracite per day will heat our entire 3 bed Victorian house via central heating, provide never ending hot water, does all our cooking, provides hot water to the washing machine, boils our kettle, acts as an air cleansing system/dehumidifier and dries all our clothes hanging on the clothes horse above it. The Rayburn runs for 6-9 months a year depending on the weather. The ‘waste’ heat going up the stove pipe/chimney is not really wasted as it acts like a large storage radiator and warms the entire brick end wall of the house up during the day and releases that heat gently through the night when the stove is on idle or out.

      The fact that we utilise so much of the energy from the fuel means it reduces energy consumption elsewhere which negates some of the inefficiency of the fuel and saves money too.

      Our total annual household energy bill last year was £1200, that includes all anthracite, logs, BBQ gas and grid electricity. (we have no mains gas). We are a family of four living in a 170 year old cottage in a very rural area in the north east (cold winters!). I also now work from home most of the time so I need heating on all day.

      In comparison, I was paying £600 a year (18 years ago, allowing for inflation that would equate to approx £900 now) for my total annual energy bill in my modern purely electric modern home (economy 7 storage heating, no gas), and back then I was living on my own, the house was smaller and I was rarely there as I worked in the office.

      People often assume solid fuel stoves are the preserve of the wealthy because they invisage sky high running costs but in reality grid gas and grid electric prices have rocketed over the last 20 years and my wife and I are now sat here thinking anybody that buys a modern purely electric house must be mega rich to afford the running costs 😉 😉


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