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BBC Remove Embarrassing Climate Blunder From Tom Burke

February 28, 2019
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By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Mike Stoddard

 

On Feb 25th, the BBC published this account of the warm weather, which included a statement from Tom Burke:

 

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https://web.archive.org/web/20190227141718/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47360952

 

Somebody must have been extremely embarrassed by this blunder, because the current version has conveniently removed the reference to doubling temperatures:

 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47360952

 

Needless to say, there is no note on the story to show the correction.

The BBC have got themselves into a right pickle, ever since they decided to effectively ban comments from sceptics.

Instead they are happy to quote any climate loon, as long as he has the right credentials.

22 Comments
  1. Joe Public permalink
    February 28, 2019 11:06 am

    The BBC ought to be obligated to state what corrections it makes, especially to ‘climate/weather’ related stories.

    Who can forget Harrabin’s three attempts in a single report to get the facts correct:

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/image_thumb3.png?w=600&h=108&zoom=2

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2018/08/13/harrabin-forced-to-retract-latest-bbc-lie/

    • February 28, 2019 12:27 pm

      Fixed it for you
      they are happy to quote any climate loon, as long as he has the right credentials.

  2. Up2snuff permalink
    February 28, 2019 11:24 am

    What staggers me about Tom Burke’s statement (which was strictly correct when he made reference to a temperature record – the Met & BBC have used the Centigrade scale as standard for many years) is that hardly anyone, apart from Paul, has picked up the difference between one isolated reading on an exceptionally warm day and a common (but variable!) AVERAGE in the UK for the month of February.

    Instead, some are equally as guilty of obfuscation with references to Absolute Temperature scales, etc.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      February 28, 2019 12:02 pm

      It’s not “strictly correct” in any way. The centigrade scale does not start at zero. The idea that the “normal” is “ten” is utter nonsense, it is a scale, not an absolute, that’s why it’s called a scale.

      But yes, the comparison between a record and an average is egregious.

      • Up2snuff permalink
        March 1, 2019 9:33 am

        Phoenix, ” The centigrade scale does not start at zero.” and ” that’s why it’s called a scale.” is a nonsense of which an AGW/CC proponent would be proud!

  3. HotScot permalink
    February 28, 2019 11:33 am

    Instead they are happy to quote any climate loon, as long as he has the right credentials.

    No one bandying around BS like that has the right credentials.

    • Saighdear permalink
      February 28, 2019 11:54 am

      Well I was going to ask: what ARE the right credentials?

  4. megagriff permalink
    February 28, 2019 11:34 am

    It’s the old trick of using a non-zero base line to exaggerate an effect. In this case, we’re talking about a temperature of 20 C compared with a norm of 10 C ie 290 K compared with 280K or an increase 3.57%. Hardly headline grabbing and certainly not a doubling! This time last year, we were coping with “the Beast from the East” when UK temperatures fell to minus 6 C or 264 K, a reduction from the norm of 2.2%. Somehow, the alarmists still managed to blame that on climate change.
    Laughable though it is, all this guff does affect political thought and therefore public policy, and so affects us all in the wallet.
    When are these liars and charlatans going to be called out and sued in the courts? It’s already happening in the USA with Michael E Mann unsuccessfully attempting to sue Mark Steyn, Prof Tim Ball and others. We need the same kind of high profile law suits here in the UK to raise awareness that AGW is a scam and to begin to shift public opinion.

  5. SirClive permalink
    February 28, 2019 11:36 am

    I think we may all agree it is difficult to get through to the average person the measured, pragmatic approach taken by this website and its users to the whole energy/climate topic.
    I have of late thought that this mentality ought be considered the sensible middle ground and those who purport climate breakdown, zero emission theory and renewable fantasies as the “extreme” viewpoint.
    I would propose that these be called out as extremists(for that is what they truly are-albeit some may not realise it so) and that this may help reverse the preconceived notion of many.

  6. Phoenix44 permalink
    February 28, 2019 12:07 pm

    Burke has a long, long Green CV on the E3G website, but bizarrely makes no mention of his qualifications. I would bet he is a lawyer, but frankly he could be a sociology graduate. If he had a proper science degree I am sure he would mention it, given that he mentions:

    “He was awarded Royal Humane Society testimonials on Vellum (1967) and Parchment (1970).”

    He appears to basically be a self-appointed busybody who undoubtedly knows best, but apparently doesn’t understand the very basics of measuring a temperature and what it means.

  7. Saighdear permalink
    February 28, 2019 12:09 pm

    (This email link didn’t work again – google intervention?)
    Between Science and Technology aka a form of education, I always get so annoyed when the educated Media harp on about things like Centigrade when it should now be Celsius, call kilometres ” kill-ometers, and relate volumes of water to swimming pools etc …. you know what I am getting at. just a load of bulkshit to fill Copy!
    As a youngster, we were encouraged to Read and Listen to the Radio to improve our command of the Queen’s English. So what do we get nowadays? ….
    This does NOT promote good understandings of Sc. & Tech. Sadly Many European TV Stations adopt BBC Progs ( eg Blu Planet) as Gospel and it really is a Cancer on society – that any discussion has to include the reference to Clim Change / Glob Warming, Just like someone who “flipped” yesterday ( On Jer Vine Prog ? ) about using words and phrases as “Absolutely” where not much thought was given to what they were saying ….. Indeed yes!

    • Saighdear permalink
      February 28, 2019 12:12 pm

      I meant to add – That Scientifically, Temperatures should be mentioned in Kelvin ( Absolute) which would be a self serving check on correction. Everyday folk talk about Degrees C … and OK from 10C to 20 C, the temp HAS doubled …. the hockeystick lot like this don’t they?

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        February 28, 2019 1:25 pm

        To be sure, the number doubled.

    • Hugh Sharman permalink
      February 28, 2019 4:09 pm

      …and what about almost anyone who is interviewed on radio or TV, these days, starting his/her reply to almost any question about almost anything with the meaningless word “so”??

  8. Phoenix44 permalink
    February 28, 2019 12:11 pm

    PS Tom Burke’s twitter feed has his claims all over it still, if people want to leave comments on that!

  9. Tony Budd permalink
    February 28, 2019 12:27 pm

    I think I’ll stick to Fahrenheit – only a 40% increase above “normal” this month, so no doubling then.

  10. Hugh Sharman permalink
    February 28, 2019 1:12 pm

    E3G “independent”??? Ha! Pull the other one!

  11. alexei permalink
    February 28, 2019 6:21 pm

    Just a reminder that here in the Pacific North West we’ve had the coldest January and February that I’ve experienced in the past 15 years and no end in sight. So much vegetation has been knocked for six, it will be a boon year for garden centres.

  12. Gamecock permalink
    February 28, 2019 10:14 pm

    Worst winter here in the southeast U.S. in a decade. Cold not so severe, but extremely wet.

  13. Gamecock permalink
    February 28, 2019 10:16 pm

    When they say ‘climate change,’ demand a definition.

    IT HAS NO MEANING.

  14. February 28, 2019 10:21 pm

    high pressure…dragging warm air from Africa

    Nothing at all to do with ’emissions’. Confirmation-bias types take note.

  15. Gamecock permalink
    March 1, 2019 1:52 am

    I can remember when everyone LOVED a warm day in February.

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