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We’ve Got To Overthrow Capitalism–Monbiot

April 15, 2019
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By Paul Homewood

 

 

Well at least he’s honest!

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44 Comments
  1. Bertie permalink
    April 15, 2019 2:08 pm

    The Communists certainly did a good job of preventing pollution didn’t they? Chernobyl, for instance? And that was REAL pollution!

  2. April 15, 2019 2:16 pm

    The reason to overthrow Capitalism is for them to be the world’s jack-booted thugs with everyone dependent upon them for your daily ration of nothing.

    My late brother, a chemist and director of the Prairie Grasslands for the International Biological Program in the 1970’s made a trip to Poland. He described it as dirty and totally broken down. Since the overthrow of the Community Bloc, things have certainly changed and Poland is a shining example of what Capitalism can do for people.

    Should anyone want more recent examples: Cuba today, Venezuela and San Francisco.

    • Peter Plail permalink
      April 15, 2019 3:43 pm

      Yup. Didn’t notice many people climbing over the wall to get into East Germany.

      • victor permalink
        April 15, 2019 9:53 pm

        The people climbing the wall to the West were missionaries coming here to spread the holy word of prophet Marx.

  3. April 15, 2019 2:17 pm

    It’s bizarre that he thinks communism would miraculously cure the planet. Especially when all available evidence suggests the latter.

    • victor permalink
      April 15, 2019 9:49 pm

      of course!, and replace it with state ownership of everything and central planning! as you know, that was the natural state of humans in the Garden of Eden! Until capitalism reared its ugly head when Eve said to Adam: “I am yours!”

      We have been trying to extricate ourselves from that curse ever since. Thanks to prophet Marx we are fast closing in on capitalism, as Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Maduro, Pol Pot, Ceacescu and the North Korean genius have shown.

      There is more hope than ever now as the islamists, Occasional Cortex and Omar (who brings to us the lates advances the breakthrough science of islamo-marxism.

      • April 17, 2019 12:32 pm

        I still have to laugh over the pictures–in Life Magazine, I believe in the late ’60’s or early ’70’s–which perfectly illustrated “central planning,” USSR style. An apartment building had just been built scrupulously following the plans from the central architect. The facade showed balconies for each apartment, but with neither a door nor window to allow access to the balcony. You NEVER questioned the central government, you just did as told.

        An example of the opposite, is renowned architect Frank Lloyd Wright’s iconic Falling Waters house cantilevered over Bear Run in PA about 40 miles from my home. Wright had a tendency to design a bit ahead of technology. His team of architects on site (Wright was headquartered in New Mexico) to oversee the construction of the steel and concrete structure saw a problem. They ignored some of Wright’s specifications, adding more steel and basic structure to the structure. Had they not done so, Falling Waters might literally have fallen into the waters which flows below the home. Although it requires constant maintenance due to its environment, it still stands are truly a wonder and more beautiful than practical. Built for the Pittsburgh department store Kaufman family, it is now owned by the Western Pennsylvania Conservancy and open to the public.
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  4. David Kendrick permalink
    April 15, 2019 2:38 pm

    A globalist tool will never remove captialism, in that fisrtly it has never existed, we have had a limited free market with state sponsored monoplolies since before Charles 1st, and Adam Smiths diatribe(An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations) was railling against this practice, next every single communist movement et al has been sponsored by agencies run by rich globalist banksters. Added to the mix is rampant tribalist corruption where the aim is to get any relative into a position to looot the public purse and you have just about every government. There is not a communist movement without a bank backer, and who owns the banks. Yes it is all about moving more private assets and your life into the hands of the powerful, just about every communist party was founded and funded from within either UK territories or European monarchies, where they then exported themselves to their home nation. Did the SIS stop the Indonesian Communist party in 1939 when it was founded in Hong Kong, or did Germany stop Lennin,Stalin and Trotsky founding their socailist movements being exiled from Russia and Germany funded his return in 1917 after the UK with MI5(1909) allowed for decades the Russian Congress to operate openly in London, it costs a fortune to operate a politcal party, even more to buy arms ammunition etc to pursue a coup. And how on earth were Lennin, Trostky and Stalin able to enter and leave the UK. What sort of nation allows itself to harbour revolutionary groups dedicated to the overthrow of their country of origin ? theres a name for such states.

  5. The Man at the Back permalink
    April 15, 2019 2:41 pm

    Well we always said he was Moonbat, but it turns out that he isn’t that sane.

    I always stuck up for him. – many said he wasn’t good enough to dig ditches, but I said he was.

  6. Lezz permalink
    April 15, 2019 2:42 pm

    What more would you expect from a Guardian columnist?

  7. Joe Public permalink
    April 15, 2019 2:43 pm

    Surely it’s capitalists who fund research into renewables; and provide the materials and equipment that generates renewables.

    George is a plonker.

  8. bobn permalink
    April 15, 2019 2:46 pm

    He doesnt know what capitalism is. After all, we currently have Social-corporate-creditism in the West. Adam Smith wouldnt recognise our societies as capitalist. They’re not built on capital but on credit, with state credit, direction and regulation that promotes corporate monopolies. Our State tax system promotes credit (loan credit is tax deductable) but punishes capital (equity investing is taxed). Capitalism was abandoned long ago for our current semi-socialist nirvana.

  9. April 15, 2019 3:16 pm

    George Monbiot’s father, Raymond, was chairman of the Conservative party, so I cannot understand why he harbours such revolutionary thoughts. It seems odd that so many revolutionaries come from establishment backgrounds. It’s as if they are somehow ashamed of their privilege and have to atone for it. on the other hand perhaps they hope to lead the revolution and achieve great power..

    • David Kendrick permalink
      April 15, 2019 9:23 pm

      I remember it being said that every Labour party minister was a failed Tory, in that great houses since the civil war of 1641 have had a son in either camp so whichever horse wins the family only loses a son, not its wealth.

  10. johnbillscott permalink
    April 15, 2019 3:25 pm

    If this loon studied the underbelly of communism he could not possibly think that it is a panacea – he is but a useful idiot for the cause which he does not understand..

  11. Peter Plail permalink
    April 15, 2019 3:41 pm

    Finally the mask slips and the true agenda is revealed. Global warming was just a cover. But then we knew that all along.
    And Frankie Boyle? Since when did he matter to anyone in the real world.

    • Up2snuff permalink
      April 15, 2019 7:09 pm

      PP, you are so correct. Not everyone thought that Communism (in all its varieties) died in 1989/90. It just crept under various fig leaves, waiting for its moment to pounce.

  12. Lee Scott permalink
    April 15, 2019 3:55 pm

    This guy is not the only one out there by any means. I get this ‘Medium Daily Digest’ in my email just about every day, and it is full of anti-capitalist/climate change propaganda. Here is today’s email, for example:

    ————————————————–

    Today’s highlights

    Time for Climate Justice
    By James Coleman | March 19, 2019
    James Coleman 9 min read

    The Most Definitive Report on Climate Change in America
    The new National Climate Assessment is a dire warning that the devastating impacts of climate change are here…
    Rhea Suh in Natural Resources Defense Council8 min read

    A Global Biogas Revolution Is Taking Place
    From New York to Nairobi, and from rural communities in China to the heart of the European Union, biogas…
    Edouard Stenger7 min read

    How Capitalist Utopia Became Everyone Else’s Dystopia
    How American Elites Ruined Their Society in a Way the World Hasn’t Seen Since Weimar Germany
    umair haque in Eudaimonia and Co 8 min read

    Based on your reading history

    Brexit: stage one in Europe’s slow-burn energy collapse
    The Brexit fiasco and French riots are accelerating symptoms of Europe’s earth system crisis
    Nafeez Ahmed in INSURGE intelligence16 min read

    Best in Environment
    Follow

    Deciding on Geoengineering Will Be Harder Than Doing It
    A diplomatic breakdown exposes geopolitical fractures over a problematic fix for climate change
    Olaf Corry and Duncan McLaren in OneZero 5 min read

    ———————————————

    • Broadlands permalink
      April 15, 2019 6:11 pm

      Lee….The “Medium Daily Digest” is indeed filled with climate change propaganda. It is run by Michael Barnard, a Canadian who tells you up-front: “TFIE’s policy is clearly stated. Climate change denial is not acceptable or accepted.”

      t has probably never entered their minds that overthrowing capitalism will not lower atmospheric CO2…faster, slower, or at all. No continued “dire warnings” nor any amount of geoengineering, can do that quantitatively, long-term. It’s so much easier to continue the charade…making money while doing it.

      • Lee Scott permalink
        April 16, 2019 6:56 am

        I really believe that they don’t give a rip about lowering atmospheric CO2. The whole global warming issue is nothing but the latest weapon to be used to destroy capitalism and implement global socialism. When science finally wakes up and realizes the error – that CO2 doesn’t cause global warming – the socialists and communists will laugh and say so what? It got us what we wanted – an issue that brought down capitalism – and that in itself made the lie worth it. Never forget that for them the ends justify the means.

  13. alexei permalink
    April 15, 2019 4:06 pm

    Curiously, one of Monbiot’s contemporaries at Oxford was Claire Perry, whom he apparently described in one of his Guardian columns as “a firebrand who wanted to nationalise the banks and overthrow capitalism”. Yet she went on to work for Bank of America, McKinsey & Co. and Credit Suisse. One might wonder why the banks would employ someone with such views, unless of course they did scant research before offering her a job. On the other hand, she seems well-placed at present to advance her cause, based on her plan to eliminate C02 emissions entirely by 2025.

  14. Athelstan. permalink
    April 15, 2019 6:37 pm

    Moonbat is just that, it’s the likes of claire perry and the clowns whom purport to run the shop UK ship – who really frighten me inclusive of mrs maybot.

  15. Stonyground permalink
    April 15, 2019 6:39 pm

    Actually, he doesn’t seem to be advocating communism, just the end of capitalism. I’m not sure if there are any other alternatives though. Still, the guy is quite obviously batshit crazy, I notice that in his deluded mind some kind of climate meltdown is a given. Do non of these climate catastrophists even look out of their window?

  16. tom0mason permalink
    April 15, 2019 6:50 pm

    Moonbat knows that the power of envy can move many people.
    That is the left’s method. Yes, the socialist precious lie —

    “Overthrow capitalism! Stop the rich getting richer. Stop the poor getting poorer!”
    As if such a thing could be true.
    Socialism the world over has failed. It certainly always failed to help the poor, it always assists to elevate the socialist elite to dictatorial success and excess.

    • Broadlands permalink
      April 16, 2019 1:43 am

      Very well said Tomomason…And quite true. Today in the US there are more than a few presidential candidates using that old worn-out “renewable” political gambit. “Promise them anything?” Promise them a new climate with fewer weather dangers, less extremes. Nothing to worry about if “we” Just act now before it’s too late. Never mind the time it might take nor the huge costs. The “1%” will pay for it. Absurd…indeed the “socialist precious lie”.

    • Peter Plail permalink
      April 16, 2019 12:55 pm

      Sadly they judge the poorer in comparison to the richer. In the UK people are judged to be in poverty if their household income is less than 40% of the median income. This means if the better off get richer, then the median income increases, automatically pulling more into poverty without any change in their individual circumstances. So the poor are not getting poorer in reality, just poorer in comparison.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        April 16, 2019 1:48 pm

        There is no real poverty in the UK today – only relative poverty. To find out what the real thing was like try reading some autobiographies from those who grew up in the 30s and 40s. I read Eric Sykes’s and often all he had to eat as a child was bread and dripping, and that was very common for a large proportion of the population in towns and cities. When I grew up in the 60s soft drinks and crisps were a treat not something that was part of the weekly shop as it is today. We had squash mainly.

  17. tomo permalink
    April 15, 2019 7:36 pm

    I wonder how the lefty loons at Novara get to watermark BBC2 /Zeppotron/Endemol content?

  18. April 15, 2019 7:40 pm

    Screeching eco-loons are all the rage these days. The crazier the better it seems.

  19. Barry Capsey permalink
    April 15, 2019 8:21 pm

    Monbiot is known, accurately, as the ‘Moonbat’. Safe to ignore and waste NO time reading anything he ever wrote.

  20. Adam Gallon permalink
    April 15, 2019 8:43 pm

    The most batshit crazy look I’ve ever seen.

  21. Christopher Lynch Lynch permalink
    April 15, 2019 9:19 pm

    The refusal of Marxists to give up on their delusion is that so many of them are academics. They imagine that becoming a Marxist is part of a profound intellectual process – when in fact it is little more than a thought free adoption of a fashionable pose. Their adherence to this poisonous ideology is imbued with intellectual vanity and accordingly they would see the world burn rather than admit they are wrong.

  22. victor permalink
    April 15, 2019 9:48 pm

    of course!, and replace it with state ownership of everything and central planning! as you know, that was the natural state of humans in the Garden of Eden! Until capitalism reared its ugly head when Eve said to Adam: “I am yours!”

    We have been trying to extricate ourselves from that curse ever since. Thanks to prophet Marx we are fast closing in on capitalism, as Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Maduro, Pol Pot, Ceacescu and the North Korean genius have shown.

    There is more hope than ever now as the islamists, Occasional Cortex and Omar (who brings to us the lates advances the breakthrough science of islamo-marxism.

  23. victor permalink
    April 15, 2019 9:54 pm

    for once, I support tax funded “free” valium for all leftists.

  24. victor permalink
    April 15, 2019 9:55 pm

    why are his eyes about to pop? is it the surprise valium dart that just hit his behind?

  25. Nick permalink
    April 16, 2019 1:29 am

    Best to ignore Monbiot, he is batshit crazy and do you really need the spike in blood pressure?

  26. tom0mason permalink
    April 16, 2019 6:02 am

    We’ve Got To Overthrow Socialism, go to it’s heart, prevent them SPENDING OTHER PEOPLES’ MONEY!
    Abolish all ‘green’ taxation, abolish all ‘green’ subsidy. Revoke all ‘Carbon Tax’ statues.

    • Athelstan. permalink
      April 16, 2019 8:05 am

      In one.

  27. europeanonion permalink
    April 16, 2019 8:42 am

    The BBC are very much in the way of, “The end of the world is nigh”, today. I am having trouble with why we vote when policy is being conjured elsewhere? Activism in this country has never been at such heights. Is it because such are overly tolerated by authority, the romantic language and concepts propagated by the Internet not confronted? The idea of the peoples’ representation has gone beyond the ballot box with politicians seen as part of the problem.

    Yesterdays demonstrations in London looks like “Passport to Pimlico”, when, fancifully, a borough proclaimed independence; it was in echo of the Paris Communes. It seems that these people are actually demonstrating against local conditions, having their city appropriated by the well to do leading to not having reason to tolerate anything, why not be disruptive it has no bearing on us. London is just too big for general rules relating to lifestyles and has become a powerful lobby of a particular mindset.

    Wealth is demonstrating the sting in its tail. Being surrounded by it, by the obvious in your face success of others, breeds resentment and the manufacture of causes unrelated to jealousy or bewilderment may well be a means, as they see it, of levelling the playing field, the tail wagging the dog.

    Perhaps when we get back to real government (perhaps even a smaller population. The ‘Black Death’ and its ravages promoted possibilities, offered freedom to the surviving underclass). What Mombiot actually rails against is the inflated sensibilities of a certain level of representation, the ‘think they don’t haves’ stoked by errant observations and money tree policy. Now whether the ‘don’t have’ would actually be sanguine if they did have is an issue that only their lack of optimism allied to poor expectation, if changed, can address. Why not be disruptive if you feel you have nothing to lose? You would expect such demonstrations to find mimics in India and China if there was an essence of truth in here somewhere. But in such places there is expectation and that is the opiate of the masses.’ London’s conspicuous wealth is a story of failure?

    • Peter Plail permalink
      April 16, 2019 1:02 pm

      Re the demo in London, I was amused to see that these environmentalists are using a large pink plastic boat, but the logic of this escaped me..

  28. April 16, 2019 11:22 am

    The end of the world by climate breakdown

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/04/16/theend/

  29. Jon Scott permalink
    April 17, 2019 6:49 pm

    They suddenly became very confident. Confident enough to promote more and more their marxist utopia as the solution. Notice that there is about a 50/50 balance now between them broadcasting how little science they know and their solution which is world communism. I wonder how long before they give up on their climate nonsense and just concentrate on their real agenda which is world control. I was also having a thought about the raving looneys in extinction rebellion. Let us imagine if they get their way. The whole Western 20th and 21st century way of life is based on hydrocarbons and the population growth to 7 billion people (which is also mad). How many people do you think the world could sustain if we were forced by these rubber room reservation holders to give up hydrocarbons? My point is that it is their very own insanity which would cause an extinction possibility. How many billion would need to die to go back to their medieval nirvana? 5 billion. 6 billion?

  30. saparonia permalink
    April 18, 2019 5:00 pm

    It’s still wrong as long as there are unelected Fat Cats at the centre, no matter what labels are stuck on it.

    Notus Beni: Tricking by false alarm and removing boundaries is an easy way to take over your neighbours garden.

    It’s crazy that a fictional unmeasurable invisible entity christened Sae-Oh-Too is now part of a mass indoctrination/ hypnotic mind control structure.

  31. BRYONY DAY permalink
    April 24, 2019 11:34 am

    The simple fact is, the planet is at ecological tipping point. It has nothing to do with politics. It’s just a fact. One most on here seem to be ignoring, which is a shame. The guy is just putting forward ideas of how we can address it. That’s what his speech is about. Reading this tiny extract of a comment and drawing conclusions from it is a bit of a silly activity without at least listening to the other sentences that framed it. It’s not about politic leanings as such: he’s saying if the human species wants to survive we have to address it urgently. We’re down to about 10-15 years before planet breakdown can’t be reversed. Simple fact. This speech is not about communism, or wealth, or wearing hemp shirts, or saying ‘they’ve got more than I have’. It’s simply thinking about ways to address the planet surviving, and stating that changing our buying choices won’t produce a big enough action to facilitate that change. That was the context of the speech.

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