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Climate Emergency In Dorset! It Must Be Worse Than We Thought

June 2, 2019

By Paul Homewood

h/t Barbara Ellsmore

Barbara is lucky enough to live amongst the barm pots from Dorset Council:

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During a lively public questions session, there were statements read and questions asked about the new council’s approach to environmental matters and specifically climate change, including questions from climate change group Extinction Rebellion and Friends of the Earth.

In response to this, Cllr Ray Bryan, Dorset Council’s portfolio holder for Highways, Travel and Environment said:

“We have an opportunity and an obligation to demonstrate leadership – thinking globally about the implications of climate change and acting locally to help address it in our communities.

“The crucial need to tackle climate change is something that we can all agree on. It is an issue which transcends party politics and after discussions with the other group leaders we have agreed on the need to create a cross-party Panel on Climate Change to develop a policy for Dorset Council.”

Further to this, a motion was proposed by Cllr Nick Ireland, leader of the Liberal Democrats which asked for the council to recognise that climate change is happening and that the council agrees to declare a climate emergency.

69 councillors voted to pass this motion, two voted against and 6 abstained meaning Dorset has officially declared a climate emergency..

https://news.dorsetforyou.gov.uk/2019/05/16/dorset-council-ushers-in-new-era-by-declaring-climate-emergency/comment-page-1/#comments

 

 

Dorset are not the first, and certainly won’t be the last. But I have sent them this official FOI request:

Your council website reports that Dorset has officially declared a climate emergency.

Please advise under FOI:

  1. What Dorset’s emissions of GHGs amount to
  2. What proportion of global emissions this represents
  3. What evidence you have that Dorset’s climate is in any way “disastrous” or “dangerous” or changing in any way that merits an “emergency

  

I’ve no doubt that they will send the standard reply, mentioning extreme weather, rising sea levels, polar bears and the need to “show leadership”.

Nevertheless it will keep the blighters on their toes and let them know we are watching them.

I would suggest others send a similar request if their local council does the same.

51 Comments
  1. Shoki Kaneda permalink
    June 2, 2019 7:42 pm

    It’s always worse than we thought.

  2. June 2, 2019 7:45 pm

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/…/the-holoc…/…

    Interesting read… Holocene Climatic Optimum research. The research shows that higher latitudes were much warmer 5,000 to 9,000 years ago than today. These research articles completely debunk CO2 as the driver of earth’s temperature and show how variable our temperatures are. Climate change is natural. CO2 contributes a bit, but not enough to warrant the panic being pushed by the UN who have a clear ulterior motive.

  3. June 2, 2019 7:46 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.

  4. jack broughton permalink
    June 2, 2019 7:50 pm

    Lunacy rules. Would compare them with Lemmings, but apparently Lemmings have had a bad press, these jokers haven’t, unfortunately.

    • tomo permalink
      June 2, 2019 10:40 pm

      Always worth remembering Lemmings were murdered by Disney to promulgate this myth…. 🙂

    • BLACK PEARL permalink
      June 2, 2019 11:45 pm

      Just re-enforces the situation that most ‘normal thinking’ people do not become politicians and we end up with agenda driven nutcases deciding policy that affects our lives.

  5. cajwbroomhill permalink
    June 2, 2019 7:53 pm

    Is it now dangerous to go to Dorset, with risks of storms, floods snd heatstroke, or will the declaration of climate emergency bolster climate attenuating policies which will save the County and inhabitants, visitors and livestock?

  6. johnbillscott permalink
    June 2, 2019 7:56 pm

    Dorset are obviously going to build an impervious barrier around the whole county from the ground to the firmament so that they can control their mini climate by what ever means. They are thinking big – pity they do not appreciate the futility of their goal.

  7. June 2, 2019 8:15 pm

    create a cross-party Panel on Climate Change to develop a policy for Dorset Council.”

    Job creation or make-work schemes don’t get much more obvious than this.

  8. Ken Burnley permalink
    June 2, 2019 8:20 pm

    I have just sent Dorset Council an email saying that my family have cancelled our holiday there this year as we are terrified to visit because of the “climate emergency” they have declared.

    Suggest others do the same!

    • Bertie permalink
      June 2, 2019 8:49 pm

      Nice one!

    • John F. Hultquist permalink
      June 3, 2019 3:34 am

      I have no intention of visiting, being several thousand miles away, but agree with the notion that others (more close) write an email as you have.

      Is this the same Dorset famous for the village of Piddletown (Oh sorry, Puddletown)?
      Tourism has grown in Dorset since the late 18th century and is now the predominant industry. {Wiki}

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      June 3, 2019 10:24 am

      I would suggest that any visitors plan to visit Wytch Farm to see just how little impact Europe’s largest onshore oilfield operation has had on the environment. Compare with the ugliness of the Rampion wind farm along the coast at Brighton.

  9. June 2, 2019 8:41 pm

    It is definitely not safe to go on holiday in the south west. Devon, Cornwall and Somerset have already declared climate emergencies. The climate emergency is covered by the BBC every evening on the local news. We have taken shelter in our climate-proof bunker until the all-clear is sounded.

    https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/climate-emergency-declared-shouts-shame-2574245

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/cornwall-council-declares-climate-emergency-2458146

    https://climateemergency.uk/blog/somerset/

    • Graeme No.3 permalink
      June 3, 2019 1:31 am

      Phillip:
      Judging by the map in your third link this must be the result of something contagious.
      Are any of these local Councillors foaming at the mouth? If so they should be ‘put down’ as a danger to the public.

  10. June 2, 2019 8:49 pm

    The newly formed Dorset Council is replacing the former county, district and borough councils. The first thing it does is declare a climate emergency! Makes you wonder what lunatics have taken over the administration of local affairs in the county of Dorset.

    • Russ Wood permalink
      June 4, 2019 3:12 pm

      It seems to be a Socialist ‘thing’ to amalgamate small, local municipalities into one, great, big lump. That way, there are more ‘jobs for the boys’ who don’t actually have to WORK, because the council is so big that no-one will notice! A similar thing is happening in South Africa, where the ANC has created huge ‘municipalities’ about 100 km across and consisting of a couple of small towns and a host of villages. Needless to say, the villages hardly get any ‘service’ from ‘their’ council!

  11. Ian permalink
    June 2, 2019 9:09 pm

    My own council hasn’t declared an Emergency yet, AFAIK, but the Local Plan’s been signed off and has 38 references ti climate change. It was drawn up noting this document:

    https://www.barnsley.gov.uk/media/5772/st1002-ap2-tcpaclimatechallenge.pdf

    The Executive Summary, Key Findings and Recommendations are worth a read. Basically, it’s all unmeasurable hot air. At the same time our representatives are worrying about the planet, they’ve just signed off a plan that proposes 30000 jobs and 20000 houses, including infrastructure to handle the massive increase in traffic. In what way will this contribute to reducing the locality’s carbon footprint?

  12. Dave Ward permalink
    June 2, 2019 9:23 pm

    “Which asked for the council to recognise that climate change is happening

    Just like it has done for millions of years, and will continue to do so long after the human race is extinct…

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      June 3, 2019 10:10 am

      That resolution is filed alongside the one that recognises that the sun rises and sets every day. That said, they may register a daylight (loss of) emergency after June 23rd….

  13. howardpaul permalink
    June 2, 2019 9:40 pm

    There does seem to be a peculiar parochial madness sweeping across the United Kingdom at the present time. No, I am not referring to Brexit. It has gone way beyond virtue signalling. It is, as an earlier commenter called it, a lunacy. It is also by and large unique. I travel widely, and no longer live in the UK, but nowhere I have observed such mulish promotion of a ‘climate emergency’, something that anyone with eyes and ears can see is palpably wrong.

    But even if they were the voice crying in the wilderness, the only people in step, to mix metaphors, have they any concept of the real world beyond the Channel, and beyond the crumbling boundaries of the EU. The vast majority of world citizens who are powering ahead largely on the basis of fossil fuel, and whose care factor for ‘climate emergency’ is precisely zero?

    So sad. So pathetic. So crassly idiotic. . It reminds me of the craze to declare towns and cities as ‘nuclear free zones’ of the 1980s.

  14. Stewart Herring permalink
    June 2, 2019 10:04 pm

    I sent Dorset Council an email complaining about their lack of expertise in AGW and that their declaration was beyond their remit as county councillors

    • tomo permalink
      June 2, 2019 10:50 pm

      Given that private prosecutions against politicians for lying have seemingly started to get some traction maybe a letter to the effect that unless they retract the declaration you’ll sue for misconduct in public office (cc’d to all the local rags) might get the dopes attention?

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        June 3, 2019 8:45 am

        Yes I note that another council quoted in a comment below talks about “11 and a half years” which presumably is this “12 years to save the planet” nonsense. As far as I am aware, that is a lie, not a scientific fact. If a councillor quoted it lets take them to court.

  15. Pancho Plail permalink
    June 2, 2019 10:19 pm

    Cheshire West and Chester have similarly declared a climate emergency as a consequence of a change.org petition initiated by Transition Northwich.
    The council’s first ever green councillor said “If we have the courage to take the hardest decisions it may be the most important thing we ever do.The most important word here is ‘emergency’. We have 11 and a half years left now just to try and slow down – not stop, but slow down – this crisis before it gets to tipping point.”
    There was a depressing amount of ignorance being shown by councillors quoted in our local paper. The children’s strike was cited as one of the factors driving the decision. Apparently some people are worried that the amount of C02 in the air will stop us breathing.
    There appears to be a contagious disease out there, and it is called stupidity.

  16. john cooknell permalink
    June 2, 2019 10:35 pm

    What I find more interesting is how nationally council policy is actually practised.

    Shall we take the vexed question of development planning policy. These policy’s all champion Climate Change and declare the intent to achieve sustainability, energy conservation, flood risk management etc etc.

    I have yet to read a planning application where the applicant declares he cannot develop his land as it would not be sustainable. I have yet to read an applicants Flood Risk Assessment for a development proposed on a flood plain, that says it shouldn’t go ahead. Sustainability is not defined anywhere so every application declares it is sustainable, and energy efficient.

    These applicants reports are rarely challenged by the local planning authority or environment agency. They are usually meaningless drivel, a bit like “The OK to clad Grenfell Tower” but that is what goes on.

    Unfortunately the poor Councillors do not understand that declaring a climate emergency means all development will have to stop.

  17. June 2, 2019 10:53 pm

    My own council, of which I am a member, has had this motion proposed by a Lib Dem. It will be interesting to see the result. Back in 2011 I had my own motion passed. I hope they remain consistent with that decision.

  18. Keith Gugan permalink
    June 2, 2019 11:13 pm

    As a Dorset resident this is hugely welcome. There is far too much unquestioning follow-the-flock attitudes. Of course, there are lots of sheep in Dorset.

  19. M E permalink
    June 3, 2019 12:22 am

    I expect your readers know about The New Culture Forum on Youtube?
    Informed dicussions in a civilised atmosphere.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP5hsbgel2o. If the link is not working just put in “So what you’re saying is” to the Youtube search
    I was interested in BBC Bias segments by Liddle and Aitken

  20. Athelstan. permalink
    June 3, 2019 6:41 am

    If it’s not global warming just wait, it’ll be a campaign to highlight the lack of Somali-Eritrean diversity next week, followed by a pride march in Tolpuddle with the Bridport & Portland LGBT community.

    Meanwhile the pot holes are unfilled although the budget overdraft has gone full mental.

  21. Phoenix44 permalink
    June 3, 2019 8:38 am

    Reminds me of the Looney Keft “nuclear free” councils of my youth! People elected and paid to make sure a few local services ran well deciding they needed to save the world.

    Somebody should remind these idiots what they are paid to do. We pay plenty of other idiots to prevent climate change.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      June 3, 2019 10:26 pm

      So no cancer treatment locally then?

  22. MrGrimNasty permalink
    June 3, 2019 9:56 am

    It’s easy to dismiss these declarations as pointless indulgences, but remember, the whole point of the UN agenda is to bypass national democracy and implement locally. These declarations will be used to justify all sorts of nutty local decisions on transport, housing etc. until the whole country/economy is ruined.

  23. June 3, 2019 10:14 am

    My sister, currently touring in France, lives in Dorset and so I alerted her to this emergency, to which she said:

    “The new Leader of the Dorset Council, based in Dorchester is Councillor Spencer Flower. So with a name like that you can see why there is a climate emergency in Dorset!! It is a new elected council, I think the phrase might be ‘jumping on the band wagon’.”

    Quite!

  24. Tim Gettins permalink
    June 3, 2019 10:25 am

    They’re speaking from experience. Look at all those fossils!

  25. It doesn't add up... permalink
    June 3, 2019 10:35 am

    Surely we rationally expect that Dorset councillors do not believe in climate emergency, but have simply bowed to the pressure from green extremists for fear of what they might otherwise do. Of course, that is the start of a slippery slope. A declaration of emergency is relatively harmless. It will be when they start pressing for action that the slope will steepen.

    Meantime one can hope that the German surge greenwards with Greens topping polling comes back to bite them sooner rather than later. Given Franco-German dominance in the EU it makes it more imperative that we get out.

  26. jack broughton permalink
    June 3, 2019 11:36 am

    Apparently, Trump is to be probed by the clown prince, Tessa etc about climate change: why does he not accept all the pseudo-science? Look forward to his answers, hopefully to be tweeted!

    The BBC was again this morning waxing poetical about how renewables are everywhere cheaper than coal power, as usual no interviewer testing of the nonsensical claims.

  27. Nordisch-geo-climber permalink
    June 3, 2019 11:51 am

    It is worth matravers sic. bearing in mind that Dorset is one of the more geologically interesting parts of the UK due to the impact of the Tertiary inversion (vertical beds and all that).
    The Weymouth anticline was a massive oilfield – it was naturally breached and all the oil and gas leaked naturally into the sea.
    Of course this has happened World-wide across millennia with only positive effects to the biota.
    There are currently well-known natural oil and gas seeps near Osmington Mills.
    Methane bubbles out of the Bridport sandstone into the English Channel and has been doing so for millions of years. I wonder if the Council know about that?
    Dorset is also home to the largest onshore oilfield in Europe.
    This happens to be the second biggest user of electricity in the UK (or something like that after Heathrow).
    No doubt the libdems and greens on Dorset council have all the facts to hand.

  28. Dave Cowdell permalink
    June 3, 2019 1:48 pm

    Professor Stuart Cole the Welsh Transport advisor to the proposed M4 relief road has cited ” climate emergency” in his advice to the Welsh Assembly.
    This seems to be a catch all , get out of jail statement as in ” the lawn needs mowing “, can’t do it because of climate emergency.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      June 3, 2019 4:58 pm

      I thought the real answer to that is “we’ll keep the Brynglas tunnels as a blockage unless Westminster pays for the new road”. I’ve not been through since the tolls were dropped on the Severn bridges, but relatives tell me an effect of that is thieves from England prospecting in the better neighbourhoods.

  29. Gerry, England permalink
    June 3, 2019 1:51 pm

    Sorry to disappoint you but the easy answer to your FOI request is to say that the information you have requested is not held and so they are not able to provide it.

    At this stage they have not committed any public money to any action based on the emergency. Once they do, it is fair to ask them for the evidence for spending. My guess is that they will just hide behind the usual crap but you could provide the facts that show them to be wrong.

    It would seem that now Madrid is controlled by sensible folk, they are going to scrap their low emission zone. Way to go chaps! First city to do so. Can’t see Saddo following for London given the £220,000 a day they are now raking in to offset all the loss in income since he took over.

    • June 3, 2019 2:18 pm

      Yes, the poor council officers will have the job of explaining away their councillors’virtue signalling.

      Might be some interesting conversations!

  30. NeverReady permalink
    June 3, 2019 2:13 pm

    OT – I saw the title for this piece and thought it might be a sensible article…but no. This is what is now passing as intellectual “debate” about climate and putative climate change

    https://unherd.com/2019/06/climate-change-and-the-extinction-of-thought/

  31. theguvnor permalink
    June 3, 2019 3:57 pm

    The beeb currently bleating on about the forth coming meeting of the worlds best known sceptic and the worlds best known royal alarmist. Pundits playing it down but beeb pushing the climate change angle to its limits.

  32. Malcolm Chapman permalink
    June 3, 2019 4:56 pm

    Nice to see ‘barm pot’. My late father used the expression a lot, but I never thought about how it might be spelt. I guess ‘barm’ is right, probably echoing ‘barmy’; I think I would have written it ‘barmpot’, as one word, since I never heard ‘barm’ by itself. (OT the etymology of ‘barm’ seems to go back to words related to yeast and fermentation. ‘Balm pot’ might also be possible, given the two words are now homophonic).

    Thank you to ‘howardpaul’ (above) for the comments on how the ‘climate emergency’ nonsense seems to be particularly prevalent in the UK. I live in the UK, but I no longer travel much, and it is difficult to get a feel for local sentiment without actually being there (wherever ‘there’ might be), so the insight is welcome.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      June 3, 2019 10:25 pm

      Not homophonic in Edinburgh, I would think.

  33. crockett permalink
    June 3, 2019 6:35 pm

    Climate emergency – close the beaches, force evacuation of all beach front property and ban all outdoor sport and festivals. Seems a reasonable response?

  34. Chris permalink
    June 4, 2019 9:42 am

    OH dear! I was taking my caravan down to Kimmeridge Bay next week but of course, due to rising sea levels, it may not be there any more.

  35. Gamecock permalink
    June 4, 2019 10:52 pm

    Climate Change remains undefined.

    By declaring a ‘Climate Emergency,’ they give themselves authority to do anything they want to. It’s like burning the Reichstag.

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