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Theresa May’s Holiday Will Cost Us Dear!

June 27, 2019
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By Paul Homewood

 

 

You stupid woman!!!

 

 

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Theresa May has said seeing melting glaciers while on her walking holidays played a part in her push for the UK to be carbon neutral by 2050.

She was speaking on her way to the G20 summit in Osaka, Japan, where she will ask other countries to act.

It came as UK’s new aim to reach net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 became law on Thursday, making it the first major economy to set such a target.

All this week, Sky News has been setting out why the climate crisis is among the biggest challenges faced today by the human race.

The prime minister told reporters on the plane to Japan the retreat of a glacier on one of her walking routes in Switzerland had illustrated the need for action.

https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-says-seeing-melting-glaciers-on-walks-prompted-her-climate-push-11749906

 

 

So that revelation is going to cost us all £1 trillion?

For Theresa bloody May’s information, Switzerland’s glaciers have retreating since the early 19thC, something that has nothing to do with carbon dioxide.

This is a comparison of the Rhone Glacier between 1750 and 1950 . It is from HH Lamb’s “Climate, History and the Modern World”.

It show just how much of the glacier was lost prior to 1950.

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From HH Lamb’s Climate, History and the Modern World , page 215

 

I have unearthed some more photos, to help fill in the gaps.

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Back in 1856, Rhône Glacier almost reached Gletsch village down in the valley. View from the valley.

 

 

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In 1870, Rhône Glacier had retreated about half a mile
and lost considerably in thickness, but still leaped down to the valley

http://travelguide.all-about-switzerland.info/rhone-glacier-retreat-globalwarming.html

 

The glacier appears to be about as large in 1856 as it was drawn in 1750. But even by 1870 it had experienced a rapid retreat.

We can contrast the 1950 photo with one taken in 2009

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http://www.photoree.com/photos/permalink/789321-93939220@N00

They actually look pretty similar.

Scientists have long known about this, though some now try to cover it up.

This is an excerpt from the book, “Comptes rendus of observation and reasoning”, published in 1917:

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http://www.archive.org/stream/comptesrendusofo00buchiala#page/286/mode/2up

If the idiotic May had gone walking there in the 17thC, she would have found out what climate change really meant to the Swiss. This is from Brian Fagan’s book, The Little Ice Age:

In the 16th Century the occasional traveller would remark on the poverty and suffering of those who lived on the marginal lands in the glacier’s shadow. At that time Chamonix was an obscure poverty stricken parish in “a poor country of barren mountains never free of glaciers and frosts…half the year there is no sun…the corn is gathered in the snow…and is so mouldy it has to be heated in the oven”. Even animals were said to refuse bread made from Chamonix wheat. Avalanches caused by low temperatures and deep snowfall were a constant hazard. In 1575 a visitor described the village as “a place covered with glaciers…often the fields are entirely swept away and the wheat blown into the woods and onto the glaciers”.

In 1589 the Allalin glacier in Switzerland descended so low that it blocked the Saas valley, forming a lake. The moraine broke a few months later, sending floods downstream. Seven years later 70 people died when similar floods from the Gietroz glacier submerged the town of Martigny.

As the glaciers relentlessly pushed downslope thousands of acres of farm land were ruined and many villages were left uninhabitable such as La Bois where a government official noted “where there are still six houses. all uninhabited save two, in which live some wretched women and children…Above and adjoining the village there is a great and horrible glacier of great and incalculable volume which can promise nothing but the destruction of the houses and lands which still remain”. Eventually the village was completely abandoned.

The same official visited the hamlet of La Rosiere in 1616 and found" “The great glacier of La Rosiere every now and then goes bounding and thrashing or descending…There have been destroyed 43 journaux of land with nothing but stones and 8 houses, 7 barns and 5 little granges have been entirely ruined and destroyed”.

Alpine glaciers, which had already advanced steadily between 1546 and 1590, moved aggressively forward again between 1600 and 1616. Villages that had flourished since medieval times were in danger or already destroyed. During the long period of glacial retreat and relative quiet in earlier times, opportunistic farmers had cleared land within a kilometer of what seemed to them to be stationary ice sheets. Now their descendants paid the price with their villages and livelihoods threatened.

Between 1627 and 1633 Chamonix lost a third if its land through avalanches, snow, glaciers and flooding, and the remaining hectares were under constant threat. In 1642 the Des Bois glacier advanced “over a musket shot every day, even in August”.

By this time people near the ice front were planting only oats and a little barley in fields that were under snow for most of the year. Their forefathers had paid their tithes in wheat. Now they obtained but one harvest in three and even the grain rotted after harvesting. “The people here are so badly fed they are dark and wretched and seem only half alive”.

In 1715 the village of Le Pre-du-Bar vanished under a glacier caused landslide. The glacial high tide in the Alps came around 1750 and gradually the glaciers began their retreat, much to the relief of the people who lived there.

This apparently is the climate to which Theresa May wants us to return.

54 Comments
  1. June 27, 2019 4:45 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.

  2. Chris permalink
    June 27, 2019 4:46 pm

    Silly person

    Sent by CJ Matchette-Downes

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  3. HotScot permalink
    June 27, 2019 5:00 pm

    Unless this decision is somehow reversed, this will go down in history as one of the most monumentally incompetent decisions ever taken by a Prime Minister of the UK.

    May’s incompetence over Brexit, irrespective of whether one is a Leaver or remainer, will pale by comparison to this ill considered lunge as a last ditch attempt to leave a positive legacy for herself.

    It really does demonstrate beyond all doubt that politicians are in this for themselves, not the nation!

    • JimW permalink
      June 27, 2019 5:09 pm

      HotScot, I suggest this a story she just invented. She has been paid handsomely for this action. Everyone is noticing the difference in her demeanour recently, she is now very rich!

      • dave permalink
        June 27, 2019 5:25 pm

        “…a story she just invented…”

        That is also a possibility!

    • dave permalink
      June 27, 2019 5:22 pm

      Being intensely narcissistic, and incredibly sloppy mentally, politicians generalize from any little thing which affects them personally, and think to themselves “I (yes,me!) have had an epiphany*; no need to think further!”

      Technical meaning is: a God has appeared to me.

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        June 27, 2019 8:00 pm

        During elections it’s, ‘you you you you’.
        Once elected, it’s, ‘me me me me me’.

    • mwhite permalink
      June 27, 2019 5:32 pm

      Don’t just blame the idiot PM

      “Unanimously approved after a self-congratulatory, back-slapping debate that lasted 90 minutes”

      Now to the Lords.(don’t hold yer breath)

      • keith permalink
        June 27, 2019 6:47 pm

        Yes, but I think the Lords has asked for an impact assessment. See GWPF website.

      • HotScot permalink
        June 27, 2019 7:49 pm

        keith

        If the Lords repeal this they will have redeemed themselves and deserve a place in history!

      • Dave Ward permalink
        June 28, 2019 9:50 am

        “Yes, but I think the Lords has asked for an impact assessment. See GWPF website.”

        http://www.thegwpf.com/house-of-lords-rebuke-government-for-rushing-through-net-zero/

      • Gerry, England permalink
        June 28, 2019 1:45 pm

        The Lords have no power over this as it is secondary legislation not primary. Acts of Parliament be they public general or local go through the Lords where they can raise objections that must be addressed by the lower house and resubmitted to the Lords. Statutory Instruments do not follow this procedure and if anyone has studied the EU-UK relationship you will know that EU Directives are put into UK law via this process and so with no debate. Why would you debate something delivered to us by our supreme government in Brussels when there is no way of amending it. It would also draw unwelcome attention to our subservience to the EU that the majority still has no understanding of. Even some of our dumbest MPs still think the EU is about trade.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      June 27, 2019 7:58 pm

      The hysteria seems to be getting to new levels. Now, the Newcastle Hospitals (according to C4 News just now) have decided to go for zero-C as well.
      They interviewed a man on dialysis and asked him what he felt about the plastics and other non-recyclable equipment he was consuming in his treatment. I kid you not!!! I’d have told them to p*ss off. I am not prepared to die for your idea of climate change.
      Unbelievable TV.

      • HotScot permalink
        June 27, 2019 11:06 pm

        Harry

        We are truly reaching peak climate hysteria.

        The tipping point I think the greens call it.

      • Allan M permalink
        June 28, 2019 7:56 am

        Perhaps the hospitals will discharge their patients carbon free.

  4. Peter F Gill permalink
    June 27, 2019 5:11 pm

    She does know her way around after all I believe her degree is in Geography. Sadly that’s about it. Pity she has no understanding of the costs of foolishness or pointless if it comes to that.

  5. Jackington permalink
    June 27, 2019 5:31 pm

    One can imagine the conversation:- Look Philip (pointing earnestly with her Alpenstock); that’s what global warming looks like and I’m going to put a stop to it – give me £1Tn.

  6. John F. Hultquist permalink
    June 27, 2019 5:44 pm

    I walked on the Athabasca Glacier
    Wiki: . . . one of the six principal ‘toes’ of the Columbia Icefield, located in the Canadian Rockies. The glacier currently recedes at a rate of about 5 metres (16 ft) per year[1] and has receded more than 1.5 km (0.93 mi) and lost over half of its volume in the past 125 years.

    Note the 125 years. I was there in 1970 or ’71.
    It has lost about 2km since 1844.

  7. Andrew Harding permalink
    June 27, 2019 5:45 pm

    We have people in power who cannot understand basic science and logic. Fossil fuels were once carbon dioxide in the Earth’s atmosphere, changed to plant material and oxygen by photosynthesis. All that burning fossil fuels will do is return the CO2 to the atmosphere where it originally came from, where it will make plants grow bigger producing more food. Any warming of the planet has nothing to do with CO2 man-made or otherwise, The likely culprit is the 1.5 million year ice age which ended 12,000 years ago or 1/1250 of the length of time of this ice age.

  8. Don B permalink
    June 27, 2019 5:57 pm

    1) Warming since the depths of the Little Ice Age has been happening for the last 300+ years.

    2) We live in an inter-glacial time during which glaciers melt.

  9. Trevor Shurmer permalink
    June 27, 2019 5:59 pm

    I don’t usually disagree with what you say, Paul but on this occasion, I think you are looking at the pictures of the 1950 and 2009 photos where you say they look pretty similar, through rose tinted specs really. I don’t think they look similar at all, if you compare the height of the glacier, it is far higher in the 1950 picture. In fact, I think it looks to be as huge difference really.

  10. Broadlands permalink
    June 27, 2019 6:23 pm

    An important point in all this is the fact that even if the glaciers were melting because of our added CO2, there is no mitigation of CO2 that can be done to change that. Theresa May is just like many others. She has “bought” the model-driven forecasts, “hook-line-and sinker” as well as the idea that we can solve it by removing carbon as our source of energy.

  11. June 27, 2019 6:49 pm

    Next time, can somebody pack her off on a bloody walking tour around the Jakobshavn Glacier in Greenland! We’d be a trillion quid better off.

    • Mack permalink
      June 27, 2019 7:25 pm

      Nice one Jaime. And not the only big glacier back on the advance either. Interesting times ahead methinks as the global warming narrative crashes into the glacial reality of a cooling planet.

      • DMS permalink
        June 28, 2019 10:47 am

        Mack, it wont matter. They have changed the calling card to Climate Change for a reason. It gets hotter, it gets colder. It all comes under the same banner now, and they control the narrative. Just look at the contradictions in evolutionary propaganda – change is proof of evolution; stasis is proof of evolution. No discussion allowed, which is the real problem.

  12. G Smith permalink
    June 27, 2019 7:05 pm

    Typical of alarmist politicians, no common sense and no will to find any. Here in North America the Laurentide Ice sheet began melting around 20,000 years ago, long before humans produced any CO2. This too, is lost on the alarmists of the world.

  13. A C Osborn permalink
    June 27, 2019 7:14 pm

    And as those Glaciers retreat, what do they uncover?
    Why, look trees and things.what can that possibly mean?
    Oh I know, they haven’t always been there, they have retreated before.
    Must have been something else’s CO2 that caused it before.

  14. swan101 permalink
    June 27, 2019 7:14 pm

    Reblogged this on UPPER SONACHAN WIND FARM.

  15. June 27, 2019 7:40 pm

    ‘You stupid woman!!!’ sums her up exactly. i know a stonemason; perhaps we could crowdfund and get a memorial stone ready with the words carved in large block capitals.

  16. Joe Public permalink
    June 27, 2019 7:40 pm

    Calm down Paul, an adult could have shown her a picture of a dying polar bear.

  17. MrGrimNasty permalink
    June 27, 2019 8:55 pm

    SMASHED RECORDS – according to the MSM

    June temperatures (and it is late June, almost July which has higher records).

    Germany 38.6C ( previous 38.5C 1947).

    Czech Republic 38.5C (previous 38.2C 2000).

    Poland 38.2C (previous 38C 1935).

    Smashed by a fraction of a degree!

    • bobn permalink
      June 28, 2019 1:43 am

      Yes. So record June temp gets hysteria but the record snowfall get silence.

      Record June snow height set at the Rudolfshütte, Austria.

      ‘After the measurements in April this year, the cool and humid May caused the snow cover in the high mountains to grow by another 100 to 150 centimetres. Occasionally there were even records. At the ZAMG weather station Rudolfshütte (Hohe Tauern, 2317 meters above sea level) a snow depth of 342 centimeters was measured on June 1, 2019. This is the highest snow height in June at this measuring station. The previous June record here was 310 centimetres, measured on June 4, 1980’

      SNOW DEPTH RECORDS SMASHED IN EUROPE!.

    • June 28, 2019 6:20 am

      Probably measured at airports.

    • dennisambler permalink
      June 28, 2019 8:56 am

      BBC is forecasting “the hottest Glastonbury in history”. In history, Wow! What’s the carbon footprint of all those revellers enjoying the sunshine

      • bobn permalink
        June 28, 2019 9:19 am

        BBC history only started in 1970AD. So we are in year 49AB (after beatles).

      • It doesn't add up... permalink
        June 28, 2019 11:55 am

        I wonder what King Alfred thought? Perhaps he forecast an ever warmer Glastonbury? Let them eat burnt cake!

      • Gerry, England permalink
        June 28, 2019 1:57 pm

        Shhhhh, don’t ask awkward questions about the gathering of the disciples watched over by a few thousand BBC employees.

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      June 28, 2019 7:38 pm

      Oh no, climate’s struck. France got 45.9C and broke its all-time record, but borders are a man-made thing that climate doesn’t appreciate, and Italy, Spain, Portugal……… still have significantly higher records. So the hottest part of a hot surge hit somewhere randomly different, but still within previously known limits!

      Also:-

      I can’t find any info or pictures of the weather station concerned – anyone help?

      All the official stations in the surrounds I could find seemed very consistently at 44C max.(Possibly only hourly reports though).

      BUT, again I’m left wondering how reliable this ‘record’ is anyway?

  18. Stonyground permalink
    June 27, 2019 9:20 pm

    Has there ever been a time when the politicians have been so completely out of touch with both the electorate and reality? I suppose that a big part of the problem is that so many people carry on voting for them anyway. I wonder, which part of these people will utterly ruin your life do they not understand? Apart from a few deluded virtue signallers, who the hell wants to swap their fast economical turbo diesel for an impractical bloody milk float? Well, keep voting these morons back in and you won’t get a choice you imbeciles.

  19. Svend Ferdinandsen permalink
    June 27, 2019 9:46 pm

    If she had walked in the fall or winter, then she would have seen growing snowcover and glaciers.It is amazing what half a year can do.

  20. markl permalink
    June 27, 2019 9:46 pm

    If this passes I wonder how long it will take before the shit hits the fan and people are seriously affected in their lifestyles. Already the UK is in an economic bind with no way out as industry is disappearing. Energy costs will soar even higher and transportation will be crippled. People will flock to the cities for shelter, work, and sustenance (part of the plan) and there will be no place for them to live and for those that do find a roof over their head all won’t be able to support themselves. All for temporary fractions of a degree in temperature that we not only can cope with but is probably more beneficial than harmful. The world is being duped by the UN and few seem to realize it,

    • HotScot permalink
      June 27, 2019 11:11 pm

      If this stupid law is not repealed by the HoL, I’m seriously considering emigrating to Russia when I retire in 2 or 3 years.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      June 28, 2019 2:00 pm

      I can’t see how we can avoid taking up arms to change things. The voting system has no effect so we must look to von Klausewitz and pursue politics by other means.

  21. MrGrimNasty permalink
    June 27, 2019 10:00 pm

    BBC version “UK population growth rate stalls, official estimates show.”

    Real life – another city the size of Manchester added in just 1 year.

    All requiring energy!

    • Pancho Plail permalink
      June 27, 2019 10:13 pm

      Stalling makes it sound like a bad thing. It needs slamming into reverse pdq.

    • dave permalink
      June 28, 2019 8:02 am

      “…growth rate stalls…”

      Which means – technically – that the growth rate is unchanged. Where is the news?
      Of course, what they ‘they’ are trying to sell us is the subliminal line that population itself is steady. Just as Cameron sold us – pretty successfully – the line that a reduction in the annual deficit was a reduction in government debt.

      Meanwhile, in the Arctic, temperatures are also stalled – in the usual summer manner.

      http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

      What I was told at school – about a mixture of ice and water holding at freezing point – seems to have been right. That is certainly too much hard science for an arrogant old woman, with a dodgy sugar metabolism in the brain, and a dim remembrance of a bit of Geography, to take in.

  22. tom0mason permalink
    June 28, 2019 5:34 am

    She fails to understand that loosing ice from the poles and glaciers is good news!
    It indicates that the climate is still heading out of the LIA.
    So Theresa May what does gaining ice globally mean? And how will windfarms and solar cells help us if that starts to happen?

  23. Rupert Wyndham permalink
    June 28, 2019 7:22 am

    Not just May but, it would seem, 600 plus politicians.

  24. Streetcred permalink
    June 28, 2019 8:25 am

    I don’t understand her particular type of stupid but I sure as hell admire her persistence with it. (Anon)
    https://notrickszone.com/2019/06/26/austrian-weather-agency-glaciers-have-recovered-due-to-a-snowy-winter-record-june-snow-depth/

  25. Dave Ward permalink
    June 28, 2019 10:15 am

    A smidgen of sanity from the media:

    https://www.thegwpf.com/natascha-engel-net-zero-carbon-target-is-reckless-and-unrealistic/

    And Richard Littlejohn has this (and a few other things) to say in the Mail:

    “Have you noticed how the climate alarmists keep ramping up the rhetoric? Not so long ago, they were banging on about ‘global warming’. When the predicted increase in temperatures didn’t materialise, they changed tack to the more flexible ‘climate change’. Since then, the language has become even more hysterical. They now talk about a ‘climate emergency’ and on the wireless yesterday I heard someone foaming at the mouth about ‘climate apartheid’.

    Where do they go from here? As we were always told in Fleet Street, if every minor disagreement is described as a ‘war’, then what do you call an actual war? Still, I don’t suppose that will stop the ecomentalists. Stand by for ‘climate holocaust’ and ‘climate genocide’, followed by ‘climate Armageddon’.

    Or what we used to call ‘the weather’.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7190439/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-thinking-clouds-replacing-naughty-steps.html

  26. Paul Beckwith permalink
    June 28, 2019 12:06 pm

    Research at University of Bern by Ulrich Joerin has revealed that there were no glaciers in the alps during the medieval warm period or at the peak of the Roman Empire. These things come and go all the time.

  27. 2hmp permalink
    June 28, 2019 4:17 pm

    History tells us that stupidity can be very expensive.

  28. June 29, 2019 8:08 am

    When will people realise that any CO2 reduction policy should also be seen in a longer-term context:
    · The modern short pulse of beneficial Global warming stopped 20 years ago and recent global temperatures are now stable or declining.
    · According to reliable Ice Core records the last millennium 1000 – 2000 AD was the coldest of our current Holocene interglacial and the world had already been cooling quite rapidly since before Roman times, in fact since ~1000 BC.
    · At 11,000 years old, our Holocene interglacial, responsible for all man-kind’s advances, from living in caves to microprocessors, is coming to its end.
    · The weather gets worse in colder times.
    · The world will very soon, (on a geological time scale), revert to a true glaciation, again resulting in mile high ice sheets over New York.

    The prospect of even moving in a cooling direction is something to be truly scared about, both for the biosphere and for man-kind.

    Spending any effort, let alone GDP scale costs, trying to stop the UK’s 1% of something that has not been happening for 3 millennia seems monumentally stupid.

    https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/global-man-made-co2-emissions-1965-2018-bp-data/
    https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/holocene-context-for-catastrophic-anthropogenic-global-warming/

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