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Dear energy fuels de industrialisation in the UK – John Redwood

June 29, 2019

By Paul Homewood


h/t Dennis Ambler



A welcome voice of common sense!


Much of industry needs plentiful supplies of low cost energy. Industry is about transforming basic materials taken from the earth into materials, and then cutting, shaping and assembling these into manufactured goods. Transformation of silica into glass or iron ore into steel or oil into plastic requires very large amounts of heat energy. Creating components and final products from materials requires substantial energy to cut, shape, bend, bolt, glue and assemble.

The UK following EU rules and guidance has decided on a dear energy policy. Unsurprisingly this has triggered de industrialisation. The government says it has an industrial strategy, but its energy policy makes it more and more likely that industry will gravitate to  cheap energy USA or lower cost China than stay at home. In the name of decarbonising our industry we will end up importing more industrial products from countries that burn as much or more carbon per unit of output but at cheaper prices. We have already lost most of our aluminium industry from this problem, and seen a  big reduction in  our steel industry and petrochemical capacity.

Read his full post here.

  1. Chris Davie permalink
    June 29, 2019 3:24 pm

    A reasonable definition of civilization might be “the ability to modify one’s environment to enhance life and the propagation of the species”. The first paragraph of this article says essentially that and we have done pretty well on that score since the stone age. I don’t think a bunch of snow flakes, armed only with fallacious scientific reasoning, is going to stop that continuing.

  2. Colin Brooks permalink
    June 29, 2019 4:28 pm

    Unforgivable mistake by Mr Redwood:
    Much of industry needs plentiful supplies of low cost energy. Industry is about transforming basic materials taken from the earth into materials, and then cutting, shaping and assembling these into manufactured goods.
    Has nobody told him that digging up resources is a no no?
    Resources must be left in the ground so that generations to come will be able to use them.

    • June 29, 2019 5:05 pm

      If resources are left in the ground what use are they?

      If you must leave them for the next generation they will never be used.

      To produce goods you must use resources, if you do not use resources you cannot produce goods. If you use resources efficiently this is obviously good, the use of precious resouces to produce inefficient generating capacity (windmills & Solar panels) cannot make sense.

      • howardpaul permalink
        June 29, 2019 5:43 pm

        I suspect- just suspect – Mr Brooks forgot to add SARC.

      • Colin Brooks permalink
        June 29, 2019 6:10 pm

        indeed I did ^.^

    • Mike Jackson permalink
      June 29, 2019 8:04 pm

      I thought resources were to be left in the ground for future generations to leave in the ground for their future generations.

      Several years ago I asked which future generation was going to be allowed to use them and was told, “if I had my way, ****ing none of them!”

      A leading light in FoE, that was! He also threatened violence but not after he saw the “minders” I had with me. Membership of a rugby club can come in handy.

  3. June 29, 2019 5:02 pm

    Reblogged this on ajmarciniak.

  4. Gamecock permalink
    June 29, 2019 6:52 pm

    ‘In the name of decarbonising our industry we will end up importing more industrial products’

    Nah. You won’t have any money. Start saving and drying animal dung.

  5. Peter Yarnall permalink
    June 29, 2019 8:36 pm

    The terms “zero carbon or carbon neutral economy” are oxymorons.
    You cannot have an economy AND zero carbon or carbon neutral.
    Which leftie politician is going to justify 15 million job losses in the name of “climate change”? i think their union paymasters will be anxious!

  6. June 29, 2019 11:02 pm

    John Redwood bless him, is at least on the right track, unlike 99% of Brit MPs: only 5 of 650 MPs voted against the calamitous climate change act.

    He could achieve an education in the warming/climate fraud reading the following books.

    Climatologist Dr. Tim Ball’s great little handbook for the layman:
    Human Caused Global Warming The Biggest Deception In History
    Only 121 pages reveals all: the science & scandals, the politics & profiteers, the main funders & their motives. Names names. UN Agenda 21, the works. Contains a list of further reading.

    Which includes geology Prof. Ian Plimer’s major work of scholarship:
    Heaven And Earth Global Warming: The Missing Science.
    500 pages, 2,000 + references to peer-reviewed papers & books, & indexed.
    Dissects the corrupt IPCC & some scandals.
    A top introduction to true climate science.

    He could further his education with PhD nuclear engineer Robert Zubrin’s great expose:
    Merchants Of Despair, Radical Environmentalists, Criminal Pseudo-Scientists, and the Fatal Cult of Antihumanism.
    Well referenced & indexed.
    Zubrin has 9 patents to his name or pending.

    To end on an optimistic note I recommend economist Julian L. Simon’s great work:
    The Ultimate Resource 2.
    Simon (RIP) looked at all the major environmental & ecological concerns, debunked the doomsters, & came to hugely optimistic conclusions, justifiably IMHO.
    Simon’s work is cited by Dr. Tim in his essays & used heavily in Zubrin’s book

    John Doran.

  7. June 29, 2019 11:45 pm

    When is the UK going to get the real facts out about the climate change alarmists. I am trying in Canada but just get shot down and accused of being a denier. This is a global issue with very bad outcomes. Without the use of fossil fuels we will freeze in Canada

    • saparonia permalink
      July 1, 2019 10:46 am

      I think that it filters through as long as we actually talk to each other. I am distanced by technology – even writing this instead of being outside with neighbours. Community is being dismantled.

      Governments are only interested in revenue and creating unrest as a means to a world government ruled by self appointed elites, aliens, those who have lost their humanity.
      We blame each other, fight each other and they sit back and watch us fall into their traps.
      There’s a name for people who use fear and lies to get what they want.

      Eventually we will need coal but the mines will be unsafe and the skilled miners all gone. People will then begin to cut trees. Unless this circus of lies stops now we are f–kd.

      • Ian Terry permalink
        July 1, 2019 4:56 pm

        Totally correct

  8. June 30, 2019 7:26 am

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.

  9. Ian Wilson permalink
    June 30, 2019 8:56 am

    Sir John Redwood did another post in his superb diary on carbon dioxide. I analysed the comments and 5 supported the alarmist line while 118 contradicted it, some pointing out the benefit of higher food production from the modest rise in CO2. That’s 96% disbelieving the hysteria, not a random sample of course but an indication the noisy rabble don’t represent the population at large and a warning to politicians (which they will ignore) that they won’t win votes by their ‘zero carbon’ efforts.

    To my mind Sir John is by far the most fiscally astute person in Parliament and would make an ideal Chancellor, but I expect we’ll end up with a lightweight who blunders along like the last two holders of the post.

  10. Ian Terry permalink
    July 1, 2019 4:53 pm

    Sir John Redwood the voice of reason and common sense in a country that has fallen into the pit that has become the Church of Renewable Energy Saving the World. Sadly 500 odd of parliament and the whole of the BBC totally believe in all this green crap.

  11. Ian Terry permalink
    July 1, 2019 4:56 pm

    Totally correct

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