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Himalayan Glaciers–The Story The BBC Refuse To Tell You

June 30, 2019

By Paul Homewood



Images from Cold War spy satellites have revealed the dramatic extent of ice loss in the Himalayan glaciers.

Scientists compared photographs taken by a US reconnaissance programme with recent spacecraft observations and found that melting in the region has doubled over the last 40 years.

The study shows that since 2000, glaciers heights have been shrinking by an average of 0.5m per year.

The researchers say that climate change is the main cause.

"From this study, we really see the clearest picture yet of how Himalayan glaciers have changed," Joshua Maurer, from Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in New York, told BBC News.


As usual the BBC fail to explain the wider picture.

Glaciers worldwide have been retreating since the mid 19thC, which marked the ending of the Little Ice Age. The Himalayas are no exception.

This is what the first IPCC Report had to say in 1990:



Note the comment about the period 1920 to 1960.

They add this chart:


And comment:








In other words, glacier melt may in large part be due to natural phenomenon, rather than man-made.

The rate of recession since the 19thC has not always been constant, as the IPCC noted:


Wood (1988) found that from 1960 to 1980 the number of retreating glaciers decreased This may be related to the relatively cool period in the Northern Hemisphere over much of this time (Figure 7 10)


In other words, the fact that the rate of retreat seems to have speeded up in the Himalayas in recent years is of little significance, at least for such a short period of time.

Moreover recent studies have found that many glaciers in the Himalayas have actually started growing again in recent years:



Contrary to the UN’s report that the Hima­layan glaciers would melt within a quarter of a centu­ry, a new study by research­ers at the Universities of California and Potsdam has found out that the Himala­yan glaciers are advancing rather than retreating.

Researchers studied 286 glaciers in six areas between the Hindu Kush on the Af­ghan-Pakistan border till Bhutan.

The report published in the journal Nature Geosci­ence found that the key fac­tor affecting the advance or retreat of the Himalayan glaciers is the amount of debris— rocks and mud— strewn on their surface and not the general nature of cli­mate change.

The report states that glaciers surrounded by high mountains and covered with more than two centimetres of debris are protected from melting.

Debris-covered glaciers are common in the rugged central Himalayas, but they are almost absent in sub­dued landscapes on the Ti­betan Plateau, where retreat rates are higher.

In contrast, more than 50 percent of observed glaciers in the Karakoram range spanning the borders be­tween Pakistan, India and China region in the north-western Himalayas are ad­vancing or stable, states the report.

“Our study shows that there is no uniform re­sponse of Himalayan gla­ciers to climate change and highlights the importance of debris cover for under­standing glacier retreat, an effect that has so far been neglected in predictions of future water availability or global sea level,” the authors wrote in the journal.

Contrary to popular be­lief, researchers have also discovered that half of the ice flows in the Himalayas are actually growing rather than shrinking.

The discovery adds a new twist to the row over whether global warming is causing the world’s highest mountain range to lose its ice cover.

The new study has found that half of the glaciers in the Karakoram range in the north-western Hima­layas are in fact advancing and that global warming is not the deciding factor in whether a glacier survives or melts.


The real picture is much more complex than the BBC misleadingly portray.

  1. June 30, 2019 6:46 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.

  2. June 30, 2019 7:00 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate Collections.

  3. MrGrimNasty permalink
    June 30, 2019 7:09 pm

    The BBC does its climate re-education camps in house!

    I am puzzled at the (supposedly right-wing) UK media, they are firmly aboard the climate apocalypse train.

    It is obvious that the climate alarmist industry is using exactly the same tactics to infiltrate and control the climate change narrative of most media, professional bodies, education etc. etc. Yet the Mail is silent.

    The fruit-loops have even taken over Glastonbury with XR and Attenbollox.

    Similarly there were mutterings of discontent from the Mail about May splashing cash in her last days in office (on education etc.) – it should be left to her successor they cry. But hardly a murmur about the insane squandering on the 2050 commitment.

    Avoid BBC’s Countryfile tonight if you have a weak heart, its a propaganda special!

    • June 30, 2019 8:12 pm

      I’ve also been wondering why the UK media are so fully on-board; also a great many quite sensible politicians.

      I have decided it is crony capitalism.

      Here we have the perfect preconditions for a feeding-frenzy – £1 – 2 trillion of state-mandated expenditure. I’m not suggesting that they are all on the take. But Big Green is a super-successful lobby and there is a lot of ‘the UK will be a world-leader in the green technologies of the future’ stuff around. It takes a courageous man (or woman) in public life to speak out against a big consensus however it has been formed.

      • HotScot permalink
        June 30, 2019 8:43 pm

        They are all on the take.

      • JimW permalink
        June 30, 2019 9:11 pm

        Its not ‘capitalism’ in any form. Its also not ‘economically viable’ in any form.
        Investments are made to improve somthing already there or to produce new things. This increases wealth and hopefully productivity.
        Spending £1trillion or more to replace firm with non-firm power sources, natural gas with less efficient, volatile gas, efficient ice vehicles with less efficient vehicles etc etc; does the opposite. It decreases efficiency of the economy and reduces productivity.
        Even if there was the slightest glimmer of truth behind the AGW hypothesis, you couldn’t dream up a less efficient way of dealing with it.
        But no-one cares because since 2008 ‘classical economics’ has been dropped. Every western nation has their own ‘money tree’, and the global elite control it. They are using the socialist, centralists ‘wet dream’ of AGW to control all the levers, and bake in enhanced wealth and control for themselves leaving the tax/utility payer to pick up the tab.

    • David P permalink
      June 30, 2019 9:47 pm

      I put Countryfile on in time for the weather forecast, The weatherman said that France had beaten it’s heat record by 5 degrees! He didn’t give any details.

      • MrGrimNasty permalink
        July 1, 2019 12:06 pm

        That was stated on another weather slot too, I think he misspoke or reverted to Fahrenheit for exaggeration! If the new record was correct t beat the old French June record by 2.9C, or not beaten by 4C if you look at newspaper archives!

    • dennisambler permalink
      July 1, 2019 10:06 am

      I turned on briefly and turned straight off again.

  4. Gamecock permalink
    June 30, 2019 7:30 pm

    ‘The study shows that since 2000, glaciers heights have been shrinking by an average of 0.5m per year.’

    OMG! By 9,428 A.D., THEY’LL BE GONE !!!

    ‘The researchers say that climate change is the main cause.’

    ‘Main’ cause.

    So how much climate change has there been? How do you researchers measure it? What units is it in?

    • HotScot permalink
      June 30, 2019 8:45 pm

      By 9,428 A.D I’ll be too bored with the subject to bother. 🙂

  5. MalcyO permalink
    June 30, 2019 10:43 pm

    Tut tut – 9428 C.E.

    • Deej permalink
      July 1, 2019 7:54 am

      That made me chuckle!

  6. June 30, 2019 11:05 pm

    This highlights the propensity of the BBC to distort not only the facts but also the concerns that prompted the study. This one addresses melting of glaciers in relation to local community dependence on melt water and refers to the unknowns surrounding the drivers of climate change.

    Quoting a Dr Hamish Pritchard, who wasn’t party to the actual study, the BBC wrote –

    “Why does this matter? Because when the ice runs out, some of Asia’s most important rivers will lose a water supply that keeps them flowing through drought summers, just when water is at its most valuable”

    The researchers didn’t give an estimate of when the ice would be gone!

  7. June 30, 2019 11:49 pm

    BBC bias is to debated in Parliament on the 15 July; but don’t hold your breath. Most of the politicians are biased themselves or otherwise brain dead on the subject. Also if they are naughty they won’t get invited onto Question Time et al.

    It is the result of a petition which achieved the necessary support to qualify for a debate . Something in excess of 100,000, I believe.

  8. bluecat57 permalink
    July 1, 2019 12:56 am

    Did the story include the brown haze that veils them and the human waste all over their peaks?

    • July 1, 2019 3:52 pm

      That’s called Man Made Global Browning from NBR2, not CO2

  9. It doesn't add up... permalink
    July 1, 2019 1:20 am

    Glaciers seem to be popular at the moment. Here’s a report on those around Chamonix:

    Some excellent historic photos mainly from the 1860s are compared with slide-overs of the same views today. There is no attempt to explain the real history of retreat, although there is quite a section on the Mer de Glace on the flanks of Mont Blanc which does report on some recent rapid retreat.

  10. I_am_not_a_robot permalink
    July 1, 2019 1:59 am

    It’s useful to remember that there is no evidence that any of the observed warming is due to humans.
    In their recent report (2014) the IPCC bureaucracy effectively attributed 100% of the post-1950 warming to human activity based on the fallacy of the single cause.
    The attribution is based on expert judgements but these self-declared judges’ models have proved ludicrously inexpert in predicting the observed warming in that part of the atmosphere where any enhanced greenhouse warming should be most apparent as Dr John Christy points out in the video on this page (~20:00):
    Of course that is not to ‘deny’ the science, just that the incredibly complex climate system is still largely a mystery.

    • Gamecock permalink
      July 1, 2019 4:45 pm

      It’s more ridiculous than that. It’s an argument from ignorance. They have said out loud that the temperature rise must be due to humans, cos they can’t figure out what else might be causing it.

  11. Ian Wilson permalink
    July 1, 2019 8:03 am

    My understanding is that glaciers which had been retreating for centuries are now advancing again in Norway, Iceland, Greenland, Alaska, the Rockies, the Hindu Kush and New Zealand. Moreover Susan Crockford reports Hudson Bay ice breakup in recent years is some two weeks later than in the 1980s.

    Has the solar minimum started a new climate cooling phase? How long before politicians are in hysteria about an ice age?

  12. July 1, 2019 9:08 am

    BBC plays the cherry-picking game like all the other climate alarm halfwits.

  13. europeanonion permalink
    July 1, 2019 10:27 am

    How much Co2 is enough? What is the level at the moment? Just asking. Perhaps the botanists or arborealists amongst us, for instance, have a view?

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      July 1, 2019 11:49 am

      ~150ppm planet dies, ~410ppm currently, 1300ppm is probably about the limit of the plant ‘fertilization’ benefit of those groups that benefit – similar to the level used for professional glasshouse crops.

  14. Bloke down the pub permalink
    July 1, 2019 12:15 pm

    I thought you’d find something in the article to get your teeth into.

  15. Saighdear permalink
    July 1, 2019 12:33 pm

    Help me – I’m about to BURST !… BBC News TODAY RE: Mexico Hail -It takes ENERGY from HEAT to make Hail /ICE ! eh? since when did one add heat to make ice?

  16. Athelstan. permalink
    July 1, 2019 4:35 pm

    More climastrology Bull*** from the bull*** broadcasting corpulence.

    Are the Monsoons failing – er no, thus the rain still falls and as snow in the upper Himalayas, rain or snow, the rivers are still filled – panic over.


  17. July 1, 2019 11:37 pm

    Reblogged this on Sandy Hook or by Crook and commented:
    Always look at the big picture.

  18. July 3, 2019 6:00 pm

    On Sep 30th 2017, an France A388 was flying over Greenland, when its fan and engine inlet separated.
    On Jul 1st 2019 the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland (GEUS) reported that another expedition to locate a crucial missing piece has led to success, a 150kg piece of the engine was located 4 meters below the snow and was recovered.
    I don’t know how far down this fan went down when it initially came off, but it ended up being 4 meters below the surface in less than 2 years.

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