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How To Green The World’s Deserts

July 2, 2019

By Paul Homewood

 

 

A very watchable lecture by the ecologist Allen Savory. Forget about some of the climate change nonsense, in essence he overturns much of established thinking in the role of livestock grazing in desertification:

 

 

18 Comments
  1. July 2, 2019 3:16 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.

  2. Bill Dunnell permalink
    July 2, 2019 3:38 pm

    Brilliant!!!! Thinkers everywhere recognize the truth of what this video says. Thanks for posting it.

    • Ian Magness permalink
      July 2, 2019 4:06 pm

      I second that – fascinating speech. It was noticeable that he specifically didn’t mention methane production from the animals he wishes to unleash. I am guessing it’s because he realises that there may not be much difference between methane produced by the natural rotting of vegetation and that process speeded up by animals, but it would be good to know.
      It’s also a shame that he didn’t comment on the – generally accepted – concept that CO2 increases have facilitated significant greening of the Earth overall over the last couple of generations and indeed the balance between the acreage greened and the acreage desertified. The former (greened) would tend to create a “carbon sink” to balance the “carbon loss” to the atmosphere of the latter (desertification).
      This is all a classic example of the phrase that comes to mind when you start postulating about Earth sciences in general, i.e. “it’s more complicated than that”.
      For all that, 20 minutes well worth spending.

      • Bill Dunnell permalink
        July 2, 2019 6:39 pm

        Ian, I recently read an article about free radicals that eat methane gas. Here is a excerpt. The hydroxyl radical, a molecule made up of one hydrogen atom and one oxygen atom with a free electron, is one of the most reactive gases in the atmosphere and regularly breaks down other gases, effectively ending their lifetimes. In this way OH is the main check on the concentration of methane. The research has been published by the Journal of Geological Research — Atmospheres. THe article I read was on a web site called Cleantechnica.

  3. spetzer86 permalink
    July 2, 2019 4:26 pm

    A more recent interview with Allen Savory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHv9x2vlFOs

  4. July 2, 2019 4:50 pm

    Posted on Facebook. A ray of hope where reality marches in step with real science.

  5. A C Osborn permalink
    July 2, 2019 5:26 pm

    Is it possible that the worm is finally turning as another bunch of Serious Scientists rubbish CAGW?
    see
    https://www.iceagenow.info/daring-italian-scientists-buck-the-agw-trend/

  6. Brian permalink
    July 2, 2019 5:49 pm

    Apr 26, 2016 Rising CO2 Levels Greening Earth

    From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

  7. THX1138 permalink
    July 2, 2019 7:09 pm

    Old news to anyone who follows Joel Salatin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjYG4vm7MZ4

    • Gamecock permalink
      July 2, 2019 10:37 pm

      I don’t know Salatin, but, yes, I saw this vid 6 years ago.

  8. July 2, 2019 11:27 pm

    Maybe some of the alarmists money should go into this project

  9. Coeur de Lion permalink
    July 3, 2019 11:31 am

    Way off thread but this morning’ s Times second leader no less has Antarctica precipitously plunging. I’m scared. What’s the truth ? Help!

    • CheshireRed permalink
      July 3, 2019 2:03 pm

      Sounds like their take on the same guff spouted by the Guardian’s Damien Carrington. Not going to link to it on principle but lying by omission yet again rules the roost. No mention whatsoever of undersea volcanoes which have caused clear influence in Antarctica.

  10. July 3, 2019 1:56 pm

    Very interesting and just shows how the peceived wisdom is so often wrong.

  11. July 3, 2019 2:20 pm

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  12. James Broadhurst permalink
    July 3, 2019 5:25 pm

    I first listened to Allan Savory 20 years ago when he was mildly annoyed about how little was understood about the mechanism of desertification. I sense now that he’s running out of patience. We can’t let what he’s capable of doing just be ignored. The impact of re-wilding millions of HA on carbon is too significant.

    Then as now I wondered why the Australians particularly who seemed a sensible crowd hadn’t taken steps to reduce desertification?

  13. Peter Yarnall permalink
    July 6, 2019 9:03 am

    So basically, vegans and vegetarians are causing climate change.
    Don’t you just love irony!

  14. Dave Cowdell permalink
    July 6, 2019 9:50 am

    My experience of Zimbabwe or Rhodesia as it was then, was where there would be a fence line separating lush crops and desertified eroded land. The fence separated intensively farmed areas ( predominantly white owned) from the Tribal trust lands, which were cultivated on the slash and burn method. At that time Rhodesia was one of the largest agricultural producers worldwide.
    After a few seasons of slash and burn, the land was no longer productive and then goats grazed whatever fabric there was left of the soil, with consequent heavy soil run off in the rainy season.
    Forced “repatriation” recently of farmed areas and return to slash and burn again resulted in desertification, with production slumping and Zimbabwe reliant on foreign aid.

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