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Summer Heatwaves? It Was Hotter In 1707!!

September 2, 2019
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By Paul Homewood

 

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To read the headlines in the last month or two, you would think we had been having a Mediterranean summer.

The truth is much more mundane however.

The numbers for last month’s CET are now out. August ended up at 17.1C, meaning that there have been 32 Augusts as warm or warmer. Last month was no warmer than 1801, 1842 and 1932.

Summer as a whole ranked 48th hottest, tied with 1935.

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https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/data/download.html 

 

The summer of 1976 still remains top of the list, but second hottest was way back in 1826.

Indeed there have been warmer summers on 28 occasions prior to 1900. Notably, one such summer was 1666, the 18th warmest. That was, of course, the year of the Great Fire of London, which swept through London between the 2nd and 6th of September.

 

According to Wikipedia:

After two rainy summers in 1664 and 1665, London had lain under an exceptional drought since November 1665, and the wooden buildings were tinder-dry after the long hot summer of 1666

But they did not call it a Climate Emergency in those days!

42 Comments
  1. September 2, 2019 12:55 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.press.

  2. tim leeney permalink
    September 2, 2019 12:56 pm

    Er, wasn’t 1707 in the middle of the LIA?

  3. C Lynch permalink
    September 2, 2019 12:59 pm

    Thanks for being a voice of calm facts and reason as usual in a world of hysteria, hype and downright falsehood. I will forward this to my alarmist friends who will no doubt dismiss it as the work of a denier in the pay of big oil interests.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      September 2, 2019 1:50 pm

      Since the information comes from the MetO I would love to see how they say Slingo, Stott and co are Big Oil stooges.

      • Arthur Clapham permalink
        September 2, 2019 5:34 pm

        Thank you for the factual information Paul, a rarity in BBC weather reporting these days.

      • C Lynch permalink
        September 2, 2019 9:36 pm

        You’re assuming their stance is based on logic – unfortunately it is not, in fact like all religious beliefs it’s impervious to logic

  4. September 2, 2019 1:06 pm

    Also during the time of the Great Fiire of London thermometers were not placed adjacent to one of the world’s busiest airport runways (Heathrow) making these results even more remarkable.

  5. Athelstan. permalink
    September 2, 2019 1:31 pm

    Again though the insinuation, that the whole of the country was experiencing av Temps of 33……….er no, sure it was pleasantly warm but it was no freak – well, hmm Heathrow is a freak but then, we know that.

    No problem, just hyperbole and lies is all.

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      September 2, 2019 2:26 pm

      We got up to 26C for an hour on the last ‘hot’ day, the other two ‘hot’ days were 23/24C here. Increasingly UK heatwaves are actually London conurbation UHI which spreads out on the prevailing wind to places like errrrr Cambridge!

      • Athelstan. permalink
        September 2, 2019 5:28 pm

        yahs, all those hothouse flowers oop in Cambridge, I do hope they had a meltdown or three.

        btw, 26 tops for the locale, over the Aug bank weekend.

  6. Ian Johnson permalink
    September 2, 2019 2:36 pm

    Perhaps they should have stated the hottest 25th of August on record.

  7. John189 permalink
    September 2, 2019 2:51 pm

    Generally seems to have been a cloudy summer with two hot spikes, one in July and one in August. My nearest weather station is Bingley SAMOS which duly hit the low 30s C on one day in July, but looking back over my own records there have been many far sunnier, and therefore better summers, 1959, 1975, 1976, 1984, 1989, 1990, 1995…..all the way to last year, 2018. Meanwhile the media act as if Tmax records apply to the whole country, yet it is only 6 years ago that many of us had the coldest March since the 1890s. All just weather.

    • Paul Reyolds permalink
      September 2, 2019 4:22 pm

      Thank you. Another voice of sanity here – an oasis of calm amongst the excitable and irrational hyperbole of todays media!!

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      September 2, 2019 10:23 pm

      Dec 2010 was the coldest bar 1 (only 0.1C warmer than 1890) in the entire 360 year CET, and one of only 7 years with a negative mean (-0.7C). No one alive has ever experienced a colder English December.

  8. September 2, 2019 2:54 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate Collections.

  9. Rob permalink
    September 2, 2019 4:47 pm

    My personal recollection is that this Summer has been quite poor, and August was dismal for the most part. Two short periods of unpleasantly warm weather lasting three or so days but a lot of protracted spells of cloudy weather.

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      September 2, 2019 10:31 pm

      The mean temperature probably flatters the actual summer, I suspect it was largely due to consistently higher than usual minimums, rather than the few hot bursts of maximums, that pushed it up the rankings to a warmer than normal, but still unexceptional extent.

      • Athelstan. permalink
        September 2, 2019 11:48 pm

        interesting stat, I recall it because most of the side streets round our way were virtually impassable for days, I was out shopping for half the street, elderly people too scared to go out, all due to ice and rutted melted snow ice, underfoot it was truly diabolical. Not least and because, councils H&S rules they won’t send the parks gangs out clearing, gritting and salting minor roads, like they used to back in the day.

      • Athelstan. permalink
        September 2, 2019 11:49 pm

        oops wrong reply box, see December 2010…………;((( soz.

  10. September 2, 2019 7:20 pm

    7:30pm BBC1 probably Global Warming item on your LOCAL
    eg Yorks/Lincs
    – Professor Tony Ryan explains why the medical profession could do much better on recycling plastic
    – Nick Baker looks at how the changing seasons are affecting our birds
    – Mike Dilger finds out what is being done to protect our landscape and wildlife from the effects of climate change.
    similar on Norwest

  11. john cooknell permalink
    September 2, 2019 8:08 pm

    Paul,

    Parliament did declare a climate emergency during the reign of Charles 2nd just before the hot summers you describe.

    The first time the UK Parliament declared such a thing was in 1661. History repeats itself exactly!

    https://www.british-history.ac.uk/lords-jrnl/vol11/pp362-363#h3-0005
    The Fast to be observed in Westm. Abbey, and the Bp. of St. David’s to preach.
    ¶Whereas His Majesty hath been pleased, by Proclamation, upon the Unseasonableness of the Weather, to command a general and public Fast, to be religiously and solemnly kept, within the Cities of London and Westm. and Places adjacent: It is ORDERED, by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, in Parliament assembled, That the Lord Bishop of St. David’s is hereby desired to take the Pains upon him, to preach before the Lords of Parliament, on Wednesday the Fifteenth Day of this Instant January in the Forenoon, in the Abbey Church of Westm. being the accustomed Place where their Lordships have used to meet upon the like Occasion.

    Samuel Pepys Diary

    https://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1662/01/15/

    This morning Mr. Berkenshaw came again, and after he had examined me and taught me something in my work, he and I went to breakfast in my chamber upon a collar of brawn, and after we had eaten, asked me whether we had not committed a fault in eating to-day; telling me that it is a fast day ordered by the Parliament, to pray for more seasonable weather; it having hitherto been summer weather, that it is, both as to warmth and every other thing, just as if it were the middle of May or June, which do threaten a plague (as all men think) to follow, for so it was almost the last winter; and the whole year after hath been a very sickly time to this day. I did not stir out of my house all day, but conned my musique, and at night after supper to bed.

    1. Samuel Pepys 21st jan 1661

    It is strange what weather we have had all this winter; no cold at all; but the ways are dusty, and the flyes fly up and down, and the rose-bushes are full of leaves, such a time of the year as was never known in this world before here.

    • Gas Geezer permalink
      September 2, 2019 10:30 pm

      Interesting reading , if only our current crop of parliamentarians would take the praying and fasting approach to tackling “climate change”, we would not only save a trillion or two but also solve the obesity epidemic and reverse the decline in church attendances at the same time.

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      September 2, 2019 11:08 pm

      And they think London Air quality is bad today!

      Fumifugium – The inconveniencie of the aer and smoak of London dissipated.

      https://archive.org/details/fumifugium00eveluoft/page/n3

  12. George L permalink
    September 3, 2019 12:11 am

    Very Good Expose of the UHI Abuse

    Thanks to Friends of Science

  13. Stonyground permalink
    September 3, 2019 7:51 am

    Along with the blanket fake climate catastrophe stories in the media, there now seems to be more efforts to prevent “deniers” to speak at public events. It would appear that the alarmists are getting more and more desperate to prevent the truth escaping and putting an end to their massive con. I have been expecting the dam to burst for what seems like forever now, surely it has to eventually. I would have thought that thirty years of failed prophesies would have done the trick but then the Millerites are still around aren’t they.

    • dave permalink
      September 3, 2019 8:23 am

      The truth is, the public have much riding on the “climate emergency” mantra. These late adopters or converts have invested psychological capital in it. Few of them can bear even the thought of looking in the mirror, and seeing a naive fool looking back.

      OTT.

      There are spots on the sun. But these are clearly of Cycle 24. No spots of a new cycle yet.

  14. Rowland P permalink
    September 3, 2019 9:25 am

    The CET charts on the Met Office Hadset look different to the ones you show with an increase in temperatures being shown. Can you comment?

  15. Rowland P permalink
    September 3, 2019 9:29 am

    I could not find those CET charts on the Met Office HADSET site. Theirs is different showing a definite increase in temperatures. Can you comment?

    • September 3, 2019 9:37 am

      Their chart is annual

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      September 3, 2019 10:45 am

      Rowland, you’ve stumbled on another climate alarmist deceit, the weather is not getting dangerously/markedly hotter, it is getting more benign, i.e. the warming shown in the means is due to less extreme cold/seasonal range – which is far more deadly than heat. That pattern doesn’t fit with CO2 theory very well, it suggests more natural factors at play.

      • Rowland P permalink
        September 4, 2019 5:52 pm

        No worries – I am an out-and-out full blown “denier”!! but I took a look at the website but couldn’t find the same chart.

  16. MrGrimNasty permalink
    September 3, 2019 6:20 pm

    Here we go, headlines, UK summer one of wettest for 100 years.

    Reality, insignificant seventh wettest since 1910, apparently.

    Summer only 0.8C warmer than average (1981-2010). 12th warmest since 1910.

    https://news.sky.com/story/uk-weather-despite-heatwave-this-summer-was-one-of-the-wettest-for-100-years-11801439

    A completely ordinary summer headlined as ‘other’.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2019/summer-2019-statistics

    • dave permalink
      September 4, 2019 10:06 am

      Piers Corbyn, of Weather Action, is predicting an early winter for Britain, with near-record lows in October and November. He thinks that, under the influence of solar developments, the Northern Jet Stream will frequently be very wavy, and that, in fact, we are already in “a Little Ice Age.”

      It will be interesting to see what happens.

      • Bertie permalink
        September 4, 2019 5:48 pm

        He may be right about the Jet Stream, but it will have sod all to do with AGW!

      • dave permalink
        September 5, 2019 8:10 am

        “…sod all to do with AGW!”

        Indeed.

        Piers Corbyn (elder brother of Jeremy Corbyn) thinks, and states vehemently, that AGW and CO2 theory are unscientific rubbish. He is also more of a Brexiteer than Nigel Farage!

        Brothers can differ on particular issues. However I sense both have the “born rebel” gene.

  17. MrGrimNasty permalink
    September 4, 2019 1:56 pm

    I’m sure it’s been mentioned before, but worth dusting off from the files:- Bargain Hunt (repeat) did a quick bit of local history on the 1920 Louth flood disaster. About 5″ rain in 3 hours, 15 foot wall of water, 23 dead. Random extreme rainfall events in the UK are not climate change, it’s the norm.

  18. Bertie permalink
    September 5, 2019 2:53 pm

    Dave, I didn’t know that. He obviously doesn’t live in Islington!

    • dave permalink
      September 5, 2019 5:36 pm

      I have no idea whether he will be proved right or not but, I have cleaned the chimneys and bought plenty of wood. Surely that is the true precautionary principle? To do what you would do anyway, but do it a little better.

      • Bertie permalink
        September 6, 2019 8:45 am

        I have no doubt at all that he will be proved right. Unfortunately, by then, it will be too late.

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