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Bill Giles Doubles Down!

September 11, 2019

By Paul Homewood

 

 

h/t Man at the Back

 

 

When you’ve already made an idiot of yourself once, you would think you would want to keep quiet. Not ex-weatherman Bill Giles though, back with this potty article in the last month’s Radio Times:

 

 

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It was back in  1996 that he started making these predictions, telling the Independent that he was going to plant olive trees in his Oxfordshire garden:

 

Olive groves in Oxfordshire? Bill Giles, the BBC’s weatherman, thinks so. Despite some particularly vicious nights of frost last winter, he is a firm believer in the idea of global warming. So much so that he is planning to plant olive trees in his own south Oxfordshire garden. In 20 years or so, he reckons, with the typical summer climate moving north at a rate of 10 kilometres a year, Dundee will be as balmy as Berkshire. France, he says, will be “a desert”. Hard luck on the Dordogners.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/bring-on-the-olives-and-bananas-1310987.html

 

 

Well. Bill, we’re half way to 2050, so how is your forecast going?

 

 

 

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https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/historic-station-data

 

The highest that average summer temperatures at Heathrow have reached since 1996 was 25.7C last year. This was exactly the same as in 1976.

The average for the last ten summers is only 23.2C. When he made his prediction, it was only slightly lower at 22.6C

In 1995, the year before Giles made his prediction, the summer temperature at Heathrow was 24.7C, which has only been exceeded once since.

The idea that London is heading towards summers easily exceeding 30C is frankly drivel.

The Independent ended their article in 1996 by talking to the famous gardener, Christopher Lloyd, who tends the Lutyens-designed rose garden at his home, Great Dixter in Sussex:

Christopher Lloyd is simply a gardener who likes to experiment, and the old roses, he argues, just weren’t doing enough to earn their keep.

Does he believe in Bill Giles’s predictions of a Mediterranean climate for Britain?

“Not a bit,” he replies robustly. “Every summer produces some summery weather in Britain. That is as much as one can depend on.”

One wonders how Bill’s olive trees are doing!

42 Comments
  1. September 11, 2019 10:46 am

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.press.

  2. September 11, 2019 11:07 am

    I holidayed in Marbella every year from 1998 and lived there for four years until March ( I missed my family, in case anyone is interested). we were told the climate migration would be starting round about now it has, more Brits are moving to Spain than ever! The tap water is safe to drink and doing my bit for the environment I drank it as opposed to buying it in plastic bottles. Not once in 20+ years has it had the slightly salty taste that is always present in purified seawater. The desalination plant costing millions proudly flying the EU flag has stood idle. To compound this at the beachfront in Marbella there is an LCD display telling bathers the water temperature, wind speed, jellyfish warnings etc. What is no longer displayed since last year is the pH of the Mediterranean, which stubbornly and predictably (by anyone with any sense) has remained the same at 7.8.

  3. john cooknell permalink
    September 11, 2019 11:22 am

    The UK climate is influenced by latitude, geography, and the North Atlantic Jet Stream, so we will never have the climate of Greece. Bill must know this. He is trying to cover his backside for his earlier predictions as nobody likes to look an idiot.

    A helping of Confirmation Bias anyone! He would say the same even if we were getting colder.

    I won’t be ordering the sun shades just yet Bill, they might get blown away in the wind and the rain! just as my drought resistant plants drowned.

  4. David Bains permalink
    September 11, 2019 12:05 pm

    Olive trees in UK! We have a fig tree in our sheltered Brighton walled garden. Ripe fruit has appeared one year only since 1997.

    • bobn permalink
      September 11, 2019 1:45 pm

      Planting olive trees was the rage after the hot summer of 2003 and we were all told the Uk was going to be perpetually mild. I planted 3 in my South Oxfordshire garden. They all died in the hard winters of 2008 through 2010. Now the same lies are being told as in 2003, but Im not planting olives to die in the predicted cold winters of 2020-2023. It all cycles round, including the bull manure.

    • Mike Ellwood permalink
      September 12, 2019 2:11 am

      We have a fig tree in our south-Oxfordshire garden. We did get a good crop one year. A so-so crop another year. But recently, we’ve had figs that have never ripened.

      We’ve had better luck with grapes some years, but this year, what there is won’t ripen in time.

      • Ivan permalink
        September 12, 2019 6:27 pm

        You have to know how to grow these things in England, because our climate is marginal for them. But if you are willing to do the research and the work, because it can be a lot of work, then you can.

        My grapes ripen every year, in Bucks, at about 120m asl. My red Regent grapes are stunningly delicious this year, and have ripened earlier than usual.

        I have chosen suitable varieties for the English climate. A lot of the famous TV gardeners are very out of date on this, so ignore their advice, they are saying the same they said 30 years ago, and there are much better things around these days. I have chosen Phoenix and Regent. But there are other good ones like Solaris and Rondo which I think are even earlier ripening. Whatever you do, don’t choose one because you saw on a foreign wine bottle, it is unlikely to ripen well here.

        They are grown against south-facing walls. They require a huge amount of leaf-pruning in the summer, and correct pruning in the winter. If you just leave them au naturel, indeed they won’t ripen in our climate, because you have to direct their energy into ripening, by cutting off most of the green growth, exposing the buches to the sun, and also thinning out the bunches. They only have so much ripening energy.
        .
        Similarly with figs. My grandfather lived near Manchester and he regularly got ripe figs, which I remember eating about 40 years ago, and not just in 1976. A work colleague routinely brought in stunningly delicious figs, here in London, every year until she moved house.

        A key trick with figs in our climate is the planting. https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/grow-your-own/fruit/figs You either have to containerise them (which creates winter protection problems) or else to grow them in the ground you need a sunken container, known as a fig pit, to contain the roots. If you don’t, they will put too much energy into green growth, which leaves insufficient energy for ripening fruit in our climate. Again they ned to be grown against a south facing wall or fence, and pruned correctly.

        We don’t usually think about olive varieties, but again it is important. Some olives are grown in places with cold winters, but who knows what they are planting, at least we know a lot about grape varieties. I do get a bit fo damage to my (random variety) olives in colder winters, but they have always recovered. And I’ve never got any fruit. I have seen some fruit on English olive trees occasionally, usually in very mild locations.

      • September 12, 2019 9:56 pm

        And there are palm trees growing in SW Scotland, around the Mull of Galloway!

      • Ivan permalink
        September 16, 2019 3:25 pm

        There’s nothing strange about palm trees growing almost anywhere in Britain. There are some very hardy species. The Chusan or windmill palm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trachycarpus_fortunei, is hardy to about -25C and can be grown in most places in Britain. It is a true palm and looks like one too. There is one in my garden, which survived the cold winters around 2010 undamaged. It has had more of a problem being moved after we built an extension over its previous location, but it is still alive.

        Most of the “palms” mentioned in places like Mull of Galloway and Torquay are actually New Zealand cabbage trees, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordyline_australis. Colloquially called cabbage palms, they aren’t palms at all, they are in the asparagus family, and are more closely related to bluebells than to palms. They are widely found in many gardens around Britain except the coldest areas. But they aren’t perfectly hardy, the cold winters around 2010 froze a lot to the ground in inland areas – though they often regrew from the roots if you let them.

        The most extreme thing I have seen is ripe loquats in the garden of a house in Harrow, which I saw in July, just randomly walking down the street. Now that I thought very unlikely. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loquat They flower in autumn and in theory youl lose the fruit if there is a frost after the flowering. I was talking to someone else who has a loquat tree near me, shortly before seeing that, and he has never got fruit. But clearly the people in that house are experts, given what else I can see in that garden.

  5. David Kendrick permalink
    September 11, 2019 12:08 pm

    Will the Heathrow temperature rise with the new runway?

    • dave permalink
      September 12, 2019 7:47 pm

      It will take off – with the right amount of flap!

  6. Malcolm Skipper permalink
    September 11, 2019 12:10 pm

    The Indy article 1996: “In 20 years or so . . .” Well 2016 was ’20 years’; I guess 2019 is ’20 years or so’. So now the French are in ‘a desert’ and Dundonians have enjoyed a ‘balmy summer’. SInce desert is in quote marks and I’m not sure of the precise definition of balmy, I suppose if France is a tad drier and Dundee is a tad warmer, then the forecast is still on target!!!!!!!!!!

  7. Athelstan. permalink
    September 11, 2019 12:11 pm

    Britain gone Med, where does that put Baffin island – Brighton, or Bournemouth maybe?
    How daft does it get, have the tectonic plates shifted so much, why didn’t we notice it? Ah but no, the world still tilted at 23 and something degrees and orbitin’ eliptically spinnin’ too around the big yellow thing, so, erm, nothing’s changed then? Or, and, humanity just gone mental – Britain gone “Mediterranean” indeed.

    Billiam de Giles, simple prognosicator and rune reader, should have helped him stay what he is, a very, very insignificant dreamer and also much humble man. But in this day and age of raising up simpletons and ignorant idiots into weltslebs.

    Alas, I always knew that, he was an utter prat, now gone full ecomentalist t%attish.

    • Bertie permalink
      September 11, 2019 8:20 pm

      I guess he received some recompense for composing those fabrications.

  8. September 11, 2019 12:12 pm

    Fair enough in 1996: the world was on a warming trend since about 1975.

    From about 1945 to about 1975 Earth was on a cooling trend, leading to the 70s panic: “Ice Age Coming we’re all doomed” The purported cause then was man’s industrial output of particulate matter, shielding us from the Sun’s heat. The purported cause for the slight warming post 1975 was the industrial output gas CO2, which was not plant food, as I was taught in school. No, it was really an industrial warming gas: carbon pollution. SHEESH.
    Spot the enemy?

    From 1998 to now, 21 years, no significant warming, with the last few years cooling.
    CO2 levels have risen steadily all this time.
    Any decent temperature dataset shows this: UAH, radiosonde balloons, RSS.
    So there is no excuse for this old fool shooting his mouth.

    Dr. Tim Ball’s great little handbook for the layman:
    Human Caused Global Warming The Biggest Deception In History.
    Only 121 pages, reveals all, names culprits & their motives.
    http://www.drtimball.ca
    Follow the links
    John Doran.

    • deborah ogrady permalink
      September 11, 2019 5:23 pm

      Apparently BT doesn’t recognise http://www.drtimball.ca

      “Sorry, the website http://www.drtimball.ca cannot be found.”

      Seeing this a lot lately.

      • September 11, 2019 6:58 pm

        Yes, Deborah, many sites devoted to truth are being obstructed.

        But there are links to follow & you need to follow them.
        Serving up truth on a plate does not further the interests of our Bankster masters & their poodle politicians.
        You will not be helped by their fake news MSM.

        If you can’t get where you want please ask, & I’ll help.
        But it’s best if you have a go on your own first.
        John Doran.

    • Tim. permalink
      September 11, 2019 7:27 pm

      Yes, I tried tget Tim’s website to no avail. I tried making the address an https one to no effect and also followed the link from WUWT, also no good. I use DuckDuckGo as my base, but search engine ‘mojeek’ got me no-where.

      • September 11, 2019 7:43 pm

        Yep. The NWO are well miffed at Dr. Tim’s victory. Big grin.
        dotcom was his previous website.
        He’s an author, try amazon? Try facebook?
        Put his name in the WUWT website?
        Try the search box at principia-scientific.org? at notrickszone.com?
        Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
        John Doran.

    • deborah ogrady permalink
      September 11, 2019 7:43 pm

      Well Said John Spot On. I have been following Dr Tim Balls victory via WUWT and a few other sites… but there seems to be a blanket of censorship regarding this especially lately.

  9. BLACK PEARL permalink
    September 11, 2019 12:40 pm

    Mmm so what about the coming solar minimum Bill ?
    Will that not scupper your predictions a little.
    It seems that they have to mention Climate Change in an article or it wont get published.
    Same for all these celebs, who are falling over themselves coming out in beating on about this and Trump bashing to hopefully carry favour with leftist directors & media industry etc in the hope they’ll continue to get employment and not get blacklisted.
    Its a folly, as it only acts to turn people off.
    They should keep their mouths shut and stay out of politics like the Queen quietly does, unlike many her offspring.

  10. Gamecock permalink
    September 11, 2019 1:01 pm

    ‘We have ten years to prepare . . . .’

    No worries, mate. If you don’t make it, they’ll give you another ten years. And another ten.

    • Broadlands permalink
      September 11, 2019 4:20 pm

      “It’s time policy-makers took note”? And then do what? Add more years to the “climate apocalypse”?
      How can these guys fail to understand that the preparations they are asking us to rapidly and urgently make do not take any CO2 from the atmosphere? How can they expect us to return to 1987 and 350 ppm if they can’t capture and store it?

      • Gamecock permalink
        September 11, 2019 4:38 pm

        The preparations are the goal.

        Climate change is just the con to get you to accept them.

  11. Gerry, England permalink
    September 11, 2019 1:38 pm

    His evidence of warming is fake since the UK’s hottest July day at Cambridge is questionable, as are other claims in France and Germany. As usual Paul puts up the graphs from warmist sources that give their claims the lie.

  12. September 11, 2019 2:03 pm

    Slightly of topic, but Tim Ball’s website (link given by jdseanjd) doesn’t work. Also his alternative site does not respond. In fact neither have worked since he won the case against Michael Mann. Anyone know if these events are linked?

    • deborah ogrady permalink
      September 11, 2019 5:29 pm

      Censorship at its finest. Happened to me too We should be celebrating Dr Balls victory but all we see is the opposition – Lording it Still.

    • David Kendrick permalink
      September 12, 2019 4:17 am

      They were hosted by GoDaddy, the sites are registered, GoDaddy has made all details private (I Checked whois lookup) and from the looks of it the ip number corresponding to that name is no longer provided to the domain name authority so it is not sent to and tables on Domain Name Servers, in cmd windows:(nslookup Cnet.com [www.drtimball.ca]). Its literally his host blocking his site not IANA.

  13. Phoenix44 permalink
    September 11, 2019 2:05 pm

    The Sahara’s moving North – but only it’s southern part as the Sahel greens!

    Since 1995 we just have not had summers that are “warmer” than those that came before 1995. It’s just not true to say we have.

  14. September 11, 2019 3:20 pm

    If Giles could get the wind to blow in to Britain from the Sahara more often, he might get his forecast to work now and again. Otherwise – forget it.

  15. Pancho Plail permalink
    September 11, 2019 4:28 pm

    A more self aware person might look around them and observe the real world.

  16. Nancy & John Hultquist permalink
    September 11, 2019 4:50 pm

    john cooknell @ 11:22 am
    The UK climate is influenced by latitude, geography, and the North Atlantic Jet Stream, so we will never have the climate of Greece. Bill must know this.

    Did Bill not learn this in school – many years ago?

    There must be a climate-crazy virus that infects some people. Once infected there is no cure (except in a few cases, there is self-cure). While claiming to be educated and rational there is little evidence of either with regard to climate. I spent over an hour with such a person yesterday.

    “Every summer produces some summery weather . . . ” says Christopher Lloyd.
    In my case, not much of such this summer, in central Washington State, USA.

  17. Kelvin Vaughan permalink
    September 11, 2019 5:16 pm

    I am 72 years old and I have been reading that at times in news papers nearly all my life. I used to believe it when I was young.

  18. Crowcatcher permalink
    September 11, 2019 6:14 pm

    Something of interest about BBC bias of interests is that I used to have a bookmark to a a very favorable Points of View piece by Clive James on the climatologist Richard Lindzen in which he invoked people to listen to what he has to say, that piece has been removed and replaced by a piece on architecture by David Cannadine.
    Makes the BBC even worse the I originally thought.
    I am a retired BBC engineer and in the 1970s I had a very astute boss who reponded to a really crass piece on the midday tv news on a technical subject “Know bugger all about anything, become a (BBC) journalist.” – Plus ca change…..

  19. MrGrimNasty permalink
    September 11, 2019 6:49 pm

    Apologies if repost, but anyway Ofgem report into power cut:-

    https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/publications-and-updates/ofgem-has-published-national-grid-electricity-system-operator-s-technical-report

    Reason I looked for it:- Higher bills to fund huge battery installations? Arggghhhhh!

    https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20190911/281951724511533

    • Athelstan. permalink
      September 11, 2019 6:58 pm

      it’s not funny, Batteries’ has he not looked at South Australia for info and a failed parallel? Spending billions, on totally inadequate ‘back up’ used to as a sticking plaster on things – boondoggles windy millers which are as unreliable as the British summer,

      Thus, the eejits are; just piling insanity on madness on Bedlam, who runs the grid these days and do they all belong to caroline lucas’s free lecky and engineering for numpties party?

      • MrGrimNasty permalink
        September 11, 2019 8:06 pm

        Any costs for backup only required because of renewable policies and renewable hardware should be paid for from the profits/subsidies already given to the wind/solar companies – what’s the chances of that happening?

        If the renewable companies were given a free hand to pick the option that left them with the biggest profits, they would end up funding new CCGT plants – now wouldn’t that be ironic!

      • Athelstan. permalink
        September 11, 2019 8:22 pm

        Ironic indeed and to the other points bloody well YES!

      • David Kendrick permalink
        September 12, 2019 4:32 am

        The grid was sold on in the UK as part of privatisation, in ye olden days like all nationally owned industries it was extremely conservative and required studies in triplicate to get any purchase or change. Today somebody else just has to be paying.

    • Athelstan. permalink
      September 12, 2019 11:46 am

      The grid was sold on in the UK as part of privatisation, in ye olden days like all nationally owned industries it was extremely conservative and required studies in triplicate to get any purchase or change. Today somebody else just has to be paying.

      I am not sure at all as to the point you attempt so woefully draw.

      What I will say I’m not fussed too much about whether it is private or nationally owned …..whatever that actually means because sure as sh*7 the taxpayer is on the hook but ‘owns’ it like we do, the sunlight or Scotch mist.

      No, what concerns me far more is the efficiency of the darned grid, now in previous times the grid has proved to be flexible as well as efficient – that’s what we ***king need.

      What we have now insofar as the national grid concerned, is, a half way house horlicks it neither here fully nationalized nor bloody there fully privatized.

      Got that?

      The grid is fubar – strapped down by; the eu emissions targets diktat, bodging, incessant, relentless, burdensome interference from da eejits sitting in the executive and now the greens have moved into the board and chair of the damn thing, wot could possibly go wrong?
      And all of this going on while; increasing the stress on an aging and overworked power transmission built for serving 48-55 million people, back in the 50s-60s.

      it can’t cope, the back up system to call it inadequate is being far too kind, the bird mincers will f*** the whole grid sooner rather than later ask the Germans and their failed energiewende – theyr’e going back to coal, I can’t blame ’em I just wish the Krauts would cut out the hypocrisy of – insisting that, the UK goes green death while they go Fossil fueled survival.

      capisco.

  20. cockneygit permalink
    September 17, 2019 8:20 pm

    Let’s be honest, he was always a berk. I would like a pound for every time he said, “From the word go…”. Berk.

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