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China and India demand cash for climate action on eve of UN summit

September 18, 2019
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By Paul Homewood


h/t Robin Guenier


As the latest climate summit gets ready to start, China and India are first out of the traps with the ransom demands:



China and India demanded rich countries provide financial support for them to increase their climate plans, as leaders prepared to meet at a UN summit in New York.

The summit has been personally convened by UN secretary general António Guterres as a moment for political leaders to show their willingness to increase their climate plans and deepen the decarbonisation of their economies.

Guterres asked governments to come ready to announce the plans they will set next year.

But in separate statements published on Tuesday, the world’s first and fourth largest emitters put the onus on rich countries to fulfil their commitments to mobilise $100 billion per year by 2020 for developing countries to cope with the impacts of climate change.

As the largest developing country, China “also enjoys the right to receive funds”, it in a statement published by the ministry of ecology and environment.

It said developed countries should “implement and strengthen” and “honour the commitment” to “support the developing world in addressing climate change”.

In its statement, India’s ministry of finance said its plan was set on a “best effort” basis and that “finance holds a key for all its actions”.

With uncertain finance and technology provision, “India can only aspire to implement the already promised climate actions”, the statement said. It added that India “may only be in a position to elaborate or clarify its post 2020 climate” plan at the summit.

Instead, India said will be “better placed” to “suitably recalibrate [its climate plan] through re-examination and improvement,” in 2023, when the next global stocktake to ramp up ambition is due to take place.


Meanwhile the FT report that leading coal supporting nations will be blocked from speaking:

Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal clashes with the demands of the organisation’s secretary-general as he sounds the alarm on climate change.

Coal has emerged as a key issue ahead of Monday’s meeting in New York, where 63 countries are expected to speak, according to a draft schedule seen by the Financial Times.

In letters and conversations with heads of state, António Guterres, UN secretary-general, has demanded that countries attending the summit stop building new coal power stations, reduce fossil fuel subsidies, and commit to net zero emissions by 2050 — demands that have not gone down well in all quarters.

Dozens of heads of state including the UK’s Boris Johnson and France’s Emmanuel Macron will deliver new climate pledges in a series of three-minute speeches, in what has been billed as a major show of global climate commitment.

However the summit is notable for those that will not appear: a number of countries building new coal power stations such as Japan, South Korea and South Africa will not take the stage. Also excluded will be the US, which has said it intends to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, as well as Brazil and Saudi Arabia, which have criticised the climate pact.

No speaky, no money, I would suggest!!


Not that bribing India will make much difference. India’s Business Standard report that India’s energy demand will double by 2040:



Union Minister of Petroleum and Natural Gas & Steel Dharmendra Pradhan said that the inevitable shift in global energy consumption to Asia is a reality. Pradhan also noted that India has to improve availability of energy to over 1.3 billion people, whose per capita energy consumption is lower than the global average. Now, India is the third-largest energy consumer in the world, and its energy demand is growing faster than all major economies of the world. India’s share of total global primary energy demand is set to double to 11% by 2040.

Addressing the opening session of the 8th Asian Ministerial Energy Roundtable in Abu Dhabi today, he said that we now need to ensure that this change is rooted in Energy Justice, which was articulated by Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi as most important component of Energy Vision of India. Pradhan said that the Emerging Asia will be driving the world economic growth in the coming 20 years. In the global context, developing economies will drive 80% of the incremental global growth, with India and China accounting for more than half of it.

He noted that energy access, higher standard of living and improved prosperity in developing countries will primarily drive the energy demand. It is important for the low income, low per capital energy consuming countries to have access to technology and capital when it comes to energy efficiency and cleantech. That will provide better energy security than short term interventions in fossil fuel supply and price.

He said that due to poor and imbalanced energy infrastructure, 400 million people in Asian region have no access to electricity, and rural residents have no access to clean electricity. Therefore, providing safe, stable, affordable and efficient energy has become an important task for governments of all countries.


Given that global energy consumption will rise significantly by then, doubling India’s share will mean their absolute demand will more than double.

Renewable energy will make little more than a dent in that, regardless of how much money is thrown at it.

I do find it ironic though. We are continually told that wind and solar power are now the cheapest form of new generation, yet India and China are demanding hundreds of billions to switch to renewable power. If it really was so cheap, they would be doing that anyway.

  1. September 18, 2019 10:14 pm

    They could always close down their very expensive space programmes. That should cover it

    • saparonia permalink
      September 18, 2019 10:43 pm

      It will cost them a lot to build their safe spots while the rest of us freeze, they need the money whatever excuses they can find. Tbh I will be happy when they all go underground.

    • Michael Adams permalink
      September 19, 2019 10:58 am

      Its just an excuse to do nothing and keep building their coal fired power stations. They know that the West won’t agree to their demands so they can blame us for their own failure to comply. Of course our brave eco warrior emergency brigade would raise a special “conscience” tax to hand over immediately.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      September 19, 2019 1:46 pm

      Aren’t they using our foreign aid money for their space programme? Or has that been used to buy aeroplanes for their aircraft carrier while we can’t afford any for ours?

    • September 21, 2019 11:27 am

      And nuclear weapons

  2. September 18, 2019 10:15 pm

    China is building more coal plants then anybody. How come it isn’t banned?

  3. john cooknell permalink
    September 18, 2019 10:16 pm

    Boris is going to give a speech! I hope they understand him, I have never yet made any sense of what he says, but its always entertaining. It takes a clever man to play the fool, or is he just a fool?

    Most of the leaders who surround him are just basically gangsters. They will steal whatever money any idiot wishes to give them.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      September 19, 2019 1:50 pm

      You would think our lying oaf of a prime minister has bigger more urgent problems to deal with having been told at the meeting with Juncker and Barnier that his Irish border ideas do not solve the problem of border of the Single Market. Seems he had a bit of lesson as to what the Single Market actually is given he doesn’t have a clue.

  4. saparonia permalink
    September 18, 2019 10:39 pm

    Bumbling Boris – promises promises

  5. bobn permalink
    September 19, 2019 12:29 am

    Close down the UN. Lets target zero emissions from the UN by 2020. That will help the planet and save a fortune.

    • John Palmer permalink
      September 19, 2019 3:27 am


  6. Nancy & John Hultquist permalink
    September 19, 2019 4:11 am

    Perhaps as a good will — and last — gesture, the USA could help the UN relocate to Longyearbyen, Svalbard.
    Therefrom, the alarmists could keep watch over the ice on the Arctic Ocean and let the rest of us know when the ice is all gone.

  7. marlene permalink
    September 19, 2019 4:41 am

    LOL – yeah, right. Like it’s anything less than a shakedown. And we know China would not cut their emissions or give up coal even if they did extort the money!  

  8. September 19, 2019 5:46 am

    Writing to a New Zealand newspaper which backs cutting down every emission you can think of, I asked them to suggest that our government stop trading with China. Somehow I don’t think that will have been well received. Just about everything we use and
    wear comes from China in return for milk products from dairy farming.
    The climate poseurs do seem to really want to stop dairy farming,though. so maybe China will stop trading with New Zealand. and tell the U N that they are doing it to combat climate change.

  9. Phillip Beckley permalink
    September 19, 2019 6:14 am

    In geological terms the Earth is in a low CO2 period. Levels of between 1000 and 2000 ppm (sometimes higher) were the norm for long periods before one million years ago (a blink of an eye in geological terms). Plants thrive at these levels. The West should be investing in reliable sources of energy supply (fossil fuels and nuclear) and safeguard their own people. There is a forecast of a Maunder minimum: the Sun already has no sunspots.

    • Chaswarnertoo permalink
      September 19, 2019 7:47 am

      You and your facts. Forecast is for Grand solar minimum, AFAIK. Valentina Zharkova.

    • September 19, 2019 12:15 pm

      Yes. Dr. Patrick Moore, late of Greenpeace (one of the founders, but not for what it became) has spoken about the advantages of the increasing CO2 in the atmosphere. There is a burgeoning “greening” around the world. Perhaps the perpetually miserable should take to protesting the forests.

    • Lydia Holden permalink
      September 24, 2019 10:34 am

      CO2 has been declining for the past 50 or 60 Mya. We are at an all time low despite emissions. Many plants have adapted to this starvation level of CO2 by evolving an alternative photosynthetic mechanism, C4 which concentrates CO2 up in the leaf thereby facilitating photosynthesis. Most people seem to be completely ignorant of the geological and biological past.

  10. Teddy Tulloch permalink
    September 19, 2019 9:37 am

    Once again a comment on halting subsidies for fossil fuels. Does anyone know what the position is with that European courts review of the subsidy in the UK to fossil fuel back up generation? The last report I have seen on it was that the European Court of Justice had demanded that such payments were stopped while they reviewed whether they were legal or not.

  11. September 19, 2019 10:37 am

    Reblogged this on Climate-

  12. Robin Guenier permalink
    September 19, 2019 12:34 pm

    This story raises a lot of issues. Foremost is that the UN Secretary General is convening this ‘summit’ against a background of increasing emissions from major ‘developing’ economies – in particular China and India – that clearly do not treat emission reduction as a priority; ironically a policy established by the UN’s own Framework Convention on Climate Change. I’ll focus on two in particular – one relating to Donald Trump and the other to Hillary Clinton.

    1. Trump

    The US is excluded from this event because, it seems, it criticised the Paris Agreement. It did. But Trump is withdrawing the US from the Agreement because it’s ‘very unfair, at the highest level, to the United States’. He referred in particular to China (‘ allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants’) and India (‘can double their coal production’) while ‘We’re supposed to get rid of ours’. Of course he’s right: the Agreement is absurdly unbalanced. Therefore, he said, ‘I’m willing to immediately work with Democratic leaders to either negotiate our way back into Paris, under the terms that are fair to the United States and its workers, or to negotiate a new deal that protects our country and its taxpayers.’ If there is to be any prospect of emission reduction, renegotiation of the Agreement is essential. Yet the US, the only country proposing it, is excluded from Guterres’s meeting.

    2. Clinton

    China and India are demanding that ‘rich countries’ ‘fulfil their commitments to mobilise $100 billion per year by 2020 for developing countries’. But there is no such commitment – under the Paris Agreement or any earlier UN treaty. The subject goes back to a statement by Hillary Clinton made at the end of the disastrous UN climate conference in Copenhagen in 2009. Here’s what she said: ‘… the money is only on the table so long as fast-growing nations like China and India accept binding commitments that are open to international inspection and verification.’ [My emphases] Somehow that seems to have been forgotten.

    Does anyone else get the feeling that China and India – which, despite being the world’s biggest coal station builders, are welcome at Guterres’s meeting when smaller coal supporters are not – are quietly laughing at the gullible West?

    • Gerry, England permalink
      September 19, 2019 1:55 pm

      You are missing the fact that the USA is the only country that has reduced its emissions by using more gas than coal. You have to laugh at the irony of it being the only country to commit to leaving the agreement.

  13. Robin Guenier permalink
    September 19, 2019 4:30 pm

    Roger Pielke Jr:

    Japan and South Africa will apparently not be allowed to speak at new week’s UN climate summit, because they are building new coal plants. However, China and India will be allowed to speak.

    Someone please explain that to me.


  14. September 19, 2019 6:25 pm

    Reblogged this on WeatherAction News and commented:
    Whatever happened to self sufficiency and heaven helps those that help themselves?

  15. September 19, 2019 10:21 pm

    Surprise, surprise – the red Ponzi and his new best friend want our cash. And the spoilt kids with iPhones and daddy funded credit cards want to give it to them. They don’t have to work for it so why would they care. Oh, by the way. Aren’t we all sitting in the same boat? If what the Alarmists say would be true and China plus India believe it they should get going without the blackmail. Or does China count on regrouping in the Himalayas? Time to call the BS.

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