Brexit Party Deceived By St Greta
September 22, 2019
By Paul Homewood
Rather depressingly, even the Brexit Party have fallen for the climate emergency nonsense. This is their latest email circular:
It is a pity they did not bother to check the facts first.
Ironically I contacted them a few months ago, offering advice on climate and energy matters, and was fobbed off.
I am pretty sure most of their potential supporters can see through this nonsense, and a chance has been missed to get climate realism back into the public agenda.
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
Dozy shots, I quite liked them until now
Alan
My sentiments exactly.
and there will not go my Vote, I cannot vote for fools, we have quite enough fools in our Parliament so want no more.
Had a Brexit Party sticker on our window for two months now…just removed it. Unfortunately can’t support them if this is their policy. And given what’s happened today, will vote Tory for the first time in my life!
DESMOG have the following critique of Farage on their website (dated May 1st 2019)…so what has changed, infiltrated by greens I guess…hope he fixes them…
https://www.desmog.co.uk/2019/05/01/brexit-party-climate-science-deniers
Nigel Farage
Farage has a history of spreading misinformation about climate science, of which DeSmog has kept track over the years. He told an interviewer in 2013: “I’m all for pollution controls but to obsess with carbon dioxide, which as I understand it, is a perfectly natural occurring phenomenon, strikes me as strange.”
Farage has also called wind energy “the biggest collective economic insanity I’ve seen in my entire life.” That would be the cheapest source of new power, along with solar, energy experts now say.
Under his watch, UKIP’s 2015 and 2017 general election manifestos pledged to rip up green measures, including a promise to repeal the UK’s Climate Change Act, withdraw from the Paris Agreement and spur on fracking.
On the day of the Brexit Party launch, Farage told BBC Radio 4 there was “no difference between the Brexit party and UKIP in terms of policy,” which gives an indication of where the Brexit Party stands on climate change.
Yes I am sure that originally the Brexit Party were against any Climate action and renewables.
Paul, I am pretty sure that Rog Tallbloke was advising them.
Not so. I’ve not been able to make any input to Brexit Party policy on energy or climate. I did chat with Richard Tice about fracking on the March To Leave on our way from Sunderland to London one day, but it doesn’t look like that had any impact. That was before the Brexit Party was set up. I know one of their MEPs is an environmentalist, so perhaps this is their schtick.
Tallbloke, honoured to find your comment to reply to! You’re right that it’s probably emanated from that MEP. The environmentalist ideologues won’t waste an opportunity to please their overlords and use facilities to promote their cause. It’s a shame that the Brexit Party hasn’t got a defined policy re climate legislation, ROs and energy. It wouldn’t surprise me if all Remainers support the anti-CO2 fiasco. When we’ve left the EU, the next referendum should be to repeal climate legislation and ROs (or not.) It would provide a much needed learning exercise just as the 2016 referendum has been about the EU and UK democracy.
Ariane, I note the policy hints that the UK would only commit to reduction goals if China and India did so too, so it’s likely just window dressing. The BP is probably wisely minimising involvement in contentious issues until as you say, Brexit is done and dusted. Let’s keep our eye on the prize. Out of the EU, we have the option of how we conduct policy; chained to it, we don’t.
They are all at it now – every single body with public membership. They are petrified that if they don’t express anti-AGW (and, of course, they all add in plastics, soot and any other real but irrelevant pollutant you can name) stance, their members and funding will desert them and the Thought Police will persecute them.
Organisations from the RSPB, the National Trust, the Woodland Trust and the CPRE now routinely spout “climate change” nonsense and indeed you get the impression that no senior executive in these bodies could be appointed any more unless he/she is a true believer.
What a mess we are in over this fake “emergency”.
And they are all wrong!!!!
Very disappointing. UKIP were much more robust led by the redoubtable Roger Helmer.
Paul, this is appalling. I’d been hoping that people like John Longworth would be promoting the right energy policies. If the Brexit Party goes down the we-must-reduce-CO2-emissions fallacy, then it will no longer get my support. The EU is promoting the global warming (now called climate change because global warming is just not happening) nonsense. I thought the Brexit Party wanted to leave these perncious influences!
FFS. Is there a scientist in the BP?
I presume you do not include social science or political science in that question because I am sure they abound! Regarding Physics Chemistry Biology and Geology well yes we exist
It is a very worrying sign. I thought the BP was the one party I could rely on for climate sense. Can it be a naked attempt to gain votes?
When Roger Helmer was Nigel’s Energy Spokesperson for UKIP the distinction between UKIP and the rest was refreshingly clear. How Nigel has allowed the Brexit Party to utter the climate change policy statement above God only knows.
Read it slowly and carefully. Its a bland statement that doesnt actually support Climate Alarmism. Its a platitudinal statement that says nothing.
For evil to flourish good men just do nothing….
OCRed text
The Brexit party stance on the following issues :
Climate Change
Global school strikes are being encouraged and underway in advance of Next Week’s UN Climate Change Conference
The Brent Party is deeply concerned by the Weather Extremes experienced across the Globe and is clear that only coordinated agreement to curb significant carbon emitters including China and India will make a dent on emission figures
We believe that the UK should have the widest possible renewable and Low-Carbon energy sources and call support their development and construction in the UK.
I dunno why they capitalized “Next Week’s.. Globe” etc.
“and is clear”
They missed the word “it”
Talking of fakery
My typo “call support” = “will support”
Sadly same old same old waffle about local weather variation and projecting it to represent global climate change! I get very pissed off with this nonsense because I spend myworking life looking at climate CHANGE in a geological perspective because that is how we tell the different deposition cycles apart…. warm and wet and cold and dry..All history tells us empires and civilizations must end and we are doing it to ourselves!
If you read the statement carefully it does not at any point accept the manmade climate alarm theory. The statement has been carefully crafted to sideline the issue so Brexit party wont get dragged into a slanging match with the green nutter media which will distract from their principle goal.
First sentence is a statement of fact offering no support for stupid strikes.
Second sentence ‘concerned about weather extremes’ – we are all concerned about victims of natural disasters; ‘only coordinated agreement … including China … will make a dent …’ Again a statement of fact without saying they support such an agreement. Also ropes in China and India so defacto says its impossible to achieve and we shouldnt do anything until they do.
Third sentence they support ‘renewable and low carbon’ . They dont say no to fossil fuels which they may also support.
I support renewable, and low carbon, and high carbon – at market prices. I have solar panels – to reduce my electric bill and get back some of the subsidy taxes i pay – nothing to do with the weather. (I got the high subsidy rate and they’ve now covered their cost – it was a rip off for those not playing the scheme, so join it or get ripped off was the choice!) I’m still happy to burn coal as my main energy source while supporting renewables AS WELL.
Basically its a weasel worded statement that does not support the manmade climate alarm agenda but gives the appearance of being rather greenie. All designed to sideline the issue in the coming Brexit fights. The Green agenda is a battleground they dont want to be distracted by or lose votes on while first fighting for an independant UK.
Actually shows political professionalism in ducking this fight for the time being. First get power – then choose your fights. Thats where we realists go wrong, we’re too honest! The alarmists sneak their people into classrooms and universities and Govt bodies, then reveal they are socialist fanatics.
bobn:
thanks for your analysis. Unfortunately I cannot vote for them, being a long way away and not a citizen of the UK (although if I was a Remainer I suppose the latter wouldn’t matter).
I notice that the most popular Party in Belgium has been excluded from a coalition because “they are far Right Wing” and the result is another coalition of those who failed last time.
I suggest that the Brexit Party sees a coalition with the Conservatives as a possibility and wishes to avoid the same campaign against them. Personally I am not sure that would be the first preference of current Conservatives but who knows?
All I can say is Good Luck! And I hope for a successful Brexit.
Is that email genuine ?
A Brexit Party member tells me they haven’ received it .
Says its a Tory survey. Not sent to Brexit Party supporters.
By email I was talking about the email Paul’s article is about
NOT the tweet about the survey which I just brought up
The only mention of “climate” on the BP website is
(Brian Monteith MEP) “and helped prepare the Nigerian President’s submission for the Paris climate accord of 2016”
https://www.thebrexitparty.org/meet-meps/
The Twittersphere calls him “a denier”
James Glancy is the enviro-MEP
James is an environmentalist. He is also a former Oxford historian, military commander and served in the Special Forces. As an officer in the Royal Marines Commandos he was deployed around the world, including Afghanistan, and was awarded the Conspicuous Gallantry Cross for bravery.
James is a director of Veterans 4 Wildlife, and a Fellow of the Royal Geographical Society.
But they also have Jonathan Bullock MEP, who was Roger Helmer’s protégé, and he’s on our side.
Yes I see he retweets the UN or Guardian once a week
(Boh of which I class as anti-true-environment)
I haven’t received it either. Paul, have you had a close look at the headers on the email? Ping me a copy please.
It could be a spoof. All the other circulars I’ve had from them have the logo centralised and their latest strapline is “We are ready” not “change politics for good”.
“Change Politics for Good” is the latest, I have promotional material with it on. I couldn’t find the e-mail though.
Brexit is a one issue party, once the goal is achieved, it will fade to nothing.
As such, it is understandable, given the current state of MSM bias akin ‘total war’ on the issue of climate, that the Brexit party has chosen to mostly go with the grain (although the statement is actually more nuanced than it appears at first glance). To be overtly controversial on the climate issue would be a distraction and invite (even more) MSM scorn/attacks.
Tice says they are not announcing too many too early because the Tories only nick them. Well, if only.
These are some policies I have picked up so far; hardly one issue or ‘going with the grain’:
– scrap the £100billion HS2 high speed rail project,
– scrap business rates for new businesses outside of London,
– refuse to send £39billion to Brussels,
– slash the £14billion foreign budget
– “invest in the rest” with a cash injection to regional parts of the UK.
– Revert postal voting to need only.
– stop charging interest on student loans
– cancel the accumulated interest on existing student loans.
None of those are controversies of our time with a supposed good/evil choice where the BBC and 97% of the MSM will refuse to acknowledge there are 2 sides to the debate and refuse to engage with you if you dissent!
Brexit is a process not an event. However things turn out on 31 October, Brexit will continue from 1 November where the government will have to work on our future relationship with the largest trading area bordering the UK. Unpicking over 40 years of integration will take many years.
Not sure what that statement of the obvious has to do with the price of fish Gerry. We all know what a malign and insidious erosion of national sovereignty has occurred under the EU and how a lot of our politicians have gone rogue and forgotten who they actually represent. All the more reason to make sure there is no distraction with climate rubbish, and we get the getting out done.
Reblogged this on Climate- Science.press.
I tend to agree that this statement is diversionary blando-speak, and I sincerely hope that the Brexit Party doesn’t allow itself to be persuaded by the enviro-loons. I recently came across the Swiss SVP, whose stance is pretty clear, and use a red ‘climate devil’ hiding behind a green leaf in their publicity material. The June issue of their Extrablatt is quite forthright.
https://www.svp.ch/partei/publikationen/extrablatt/extrablatt-juni-2019-vernunft-statt-ideologie
Google Translate is pretty good, if like me you can’t read the German well enough.
It’s disappointing that there is no party offering any active resistance to the policy that stands to be even more damaging than staying in the EU. Our democratic choices are not being provided for. We are living in undemocratic times.
UKIP
For Britain. You can see Anne Marie talking about it in her recent video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWq0eKF8Leo
it is most unlikely that Nigel would open up a new front at this time when the immutable line in the sands of time that was drawn by Boris is finally in sight.
Looks more like a forgery by a PPE undergraduate oblivious to history and much else besides.
Reblogged this on ECO-ENERGY DATABASE.
I was under the impression that it was ‘get us out’ first, and then they would look at the BBC and other pending matters that need addressing.
Have faith, one battle at a time.
Yes, that is a shame..thought they had more sense than to fall for this ‘deep left ‘ nonsense
Well that’s my vote gone – unless they publish a denial.
Mystery solved. I checked with a couple of the Brexit Party’s prospective parliamentary candidates. This is part of a ‘talking points’ briefing sent to PPCs to help them deal with stuff in the current news cycle if they get asked by the press. One of the PPC’s repackaged it as a ‘newsletter’ and sent it out to local supporters, one of whom forwarded it to Paul.
So just what is the BP’s policy?
To make sure PPCs don’t stir up that particular pot of poo, it would seem, glossing over the belief/science issue, whilst leaving room in the future to say well if India and China are’t cutting, it’s futile us doing any more.
See my diagnosis above. This is a vacuous holding statement to avoid the distraction of the climate debate screwing the brexit debate.
Get brexit done and only then open a new battlefront!!
Paul, the BP’s policy is under development. They’re doing a round of regional one day conferences at the moment where anyone can pitch their ideas to a PPC and have it fed into the policy discussion.
Nigel was clear in that Marr interview though: “To damage your own economy while other much bigger countries aren’t cutting emissions seems like a daft idea to me” (paraphrase).
And that’s the key point (skilfully) expressed in this briefing too.
I was told that Christopher Monckton was making a presentation to the Brexit Party notables towards the end of September. That might not have happened yet. I hope not.
What are your significant qualifications and job experience in this issue? You should be aware that The Brexit Party includes many experienced professionals and democratically discuss issues to be included in policies.
Follow this blog for a while, and you will find out!
Wendy, I am a founder supporter of the Brexit Party. I find your comment weird and bizarre and not in line with the Brexit party ethos of open debate.
The trouble is being ‘an experienced professional’ does not stop you being an ignorant idiot. Check David Attenborough on that one.
Paul
I would guess the media would portray this as tbp endorsing the notion of climate change and renewables.
i know a lot of Tories generally are sceptical and many of them gravitated to tbp. I would think this would not appeal to them or the more traditional Tories still voting conservative
It is unlikely to win over any new voters or young voters and seems a strange thing to do
Was not monckton at one time head of ukip and forged a sceptical policy for them?
Tonyb
At the moment I think that deciding who to vote for is like being stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea. If people can stomach our kids being brainwashed and traumatised by lies that’s their choice, or we can go for the ones who haven’t the backbone to refuse coercion. The Irish are part of our government and laughing at us now. I won’t vote for people who would take away autonomy and I won’t vote for power hungry idiots. I think we have to remember what our father’s fought for. It’s either become a socialist dictatorship or they’ll find a way to keep us in the federation and pretend we are independant.
I was about to send them another £25. Now on hold.
As I read it TBP policy is to avoid all controversy except in Brexit, thus putting off the mining number of voters for their cause.
Brexit being achieved then either they adopt other policies or die.
It’s taken 25 years to get independence taken seriously, they want to see that job finished before tackling anything else.
OK it’s genuine, so lets look at the text
#1 The grammar has errors like capitalisation.
#2 When you give info, but OMIT context, that is deceit
So you should not go along with groupthink, but rather challenge it.
The Brexit party stance on the following issues :
Climate Change
Global school strikes are being encouraged*
and underway in advance of next week’s UN Climate Change Conference **
There are two things there that should be criticised
* Protest is fine, but NOT one sided stitch-ups by the media, whereby metro-liberal agendas are actively promoted without proper criticism, that point should be made.
** You should make the point it’s a money wasting jamboree and groupthink
The Brexit Party is deeply concerned by the Weather Extremes experienced across the globe
No, it’s not cos there is no evidence that current weather patterns are anything out of the normal variance over the last few thousand years
and is clear that only coordinated agreement to curb significant carbon emitters including China and India will make a dent on emission figures
..Hey the BP connect “Weather Extremes ” and CO2 in the same sentence
but there is no proper evidence that CO2 changing from 0.000285% to 0.000303% causes significant changes in weather extremes
..On its own that second clause is half true, but shows a lack of imagination,
cos ALTERNATIVELY CO2 would be reduced if either we reduced consumption or magic tech like fusion or CCS or ocean-seeding came in
We believe that the UK should have the widest possible renewable and Low-Carbon energy sources
Nope,no we don’t .. that part should have pointed out that wind/solar/tree-pellets are bad things that increase leccy prices, infrastructure footprint, and air pollution over alternatives like gas.
Critically solar/wind INTERMITTENT power should NOT be classed in the same group as real controllable electricity sources
and call support their development and construction in the UK.
Nope, cos by saying that is both anti-true-environment and anti-CO2 reduction.
Cos the best way of reducing CO2 output is efficiency increases and you get that when you switch from other fuel sources to GAS or harvest energy from waste like plastic.
If you support solar, but not gas then you end up with a lower CO2 saving for your money …
A fracking industry that was simply required to pay fro its own mistakes might well have caused a better reduction in CO2 output, compared to people going the solar, wind, EV route.
Rather the BP should NOT be putting its lot in with the metro-liberal groupthink of the 6 UK socialist parties, rather it should emphasise the common ground of doing what’s best of the environment.
So #1 Cleaner and lower waste are the general common ground things for everyone about the environment ..and those are actually DIFFERENT from Global warming.
When you start to mix GW & environment mixed up you start to do crazy things like did up peat bog to fill with concrete bases for wind-turbines.
Similarly you shouldn’t talk about plastic ocean waste AND Global Warming in the same sentence.
#2 Personal responsibility is the basis for anything instead of the government acting as your mother. So if you want to use your own money to do something to be cleaner or reduce waste, even if you are wrong, you should be able to do that.. without government money or laws.
#3 Brexit is a good thing for the environment, cos getting away from the EU (and the UN) is the first step away from damaging groupthink and towards personal responsibility.
ie that when EU policies are wrong the UK is free to have better ones, instead of being stuck in the EU straitjacket
I’m thinking of things like biofuel mandates.
ie Greenpeace supporters should be free to put cleanburn biofuel in their car, but everyone else shouldn’t be forced to.
The general principle should be that political greens should be free to have whatever green gimmicks like EVs, solar etc, but the rest of us should not be forced to pay for them.
Rather if a supermarket or fastfood chain want to go all-green-gimmick, customers should be free to choose them over others.
But when it’s left to the government to pick winners, they inevitably pick wrongly.
If CO2 true-believers convince the public that CO2 needs to be reduced it will be reduced.
But what they want is to treat the public as if they are slaves to be ordered to reduce CO2.
Stew you are reading the statement wrong by infering support where it is not stated.
Global school strikes are being encouraged*
and underway in advance of next week’s UN Climate Change Conference **
That is a statement of fact. They do not say they support the strikes or the UN. Yes they also dont condemn them. The statement is a NECESSARY fudge to stop them getting embroiled in the climate debate and losing Brexit as a result.
See my analysis way back near the top of comments.
Its all a fudge to park the issue and rightly so. First get Brexit done, then choose another battle.
@bobn I read your analysis when you posted it
It’s wrong for the reasons I stated above.
Greta whatshername is getting main headlines on the BBC today as proof that the climate emergency must exist somewhere. This is almost beyond credibility, as a child whose parents have brainwashed her ought not to be regarded as newsworthy by any responsible media outlet, other than to charge her parents with mental abuse of course.
I too, as a member, receive emails from the Brexit Party. But not this one. It must be the black arts at work.
Paul, I think that you should have the Christopher Booker column in the Sunday Telegraph. Politics is notoriously, and increasingly, playing to fashionable sentiments and therefore the fact that the Brexit Party shunned you is quite understandable in the current febrile atmosphere (febrile nothing to do with Global Warming you understand). It has never been more important than now that you gain a foothold in mainstream media rather than just preaching to the converted. Your analysis and irrefutable sources must be put in front of a wider audience else the Puritans will win and we will all be sent to hell in a hand cart. And if your readers don’t fully appreciate the wrong that the Puritans did in the 17th Century then they should mark the words of one of the Regicides brought to book by Charles II’s courts: “I became so popular that I became unknown even unto myself”. The thought of people with a mania ruling all of our outcomes is too horrid to contemplate and as your experience proves politics has selective hearing.
Interesting that you should refer back to Charles II. It was in his reign that – due to a happenstance – the doommongers gained a (brief advantage. In December 1664 a very bright comet passed over the earth. The Astrologers (equivalent to ‘climate scientists’ today’ predicted the end of the world and all that sort of nonsense. Unhappily, because the Great Plague – appeared a few months later their credibility was enhanced and they were able to make a lot of money.. Well, we all know where that ends – reduced to forecasting ‘Your Stars’ in the Daily Express!
This is a long-winded attempt to illustrate how charlatans and fortune-hunters have been around for centuries and also the gullibility of the general public. On this occasion I sincerely trust and hope that there is no such equivalent event to – however briefly – endorse their ludicrous claims.
This seems FAKE. No one else has received an email so where is this so called source? Is this just a scam.
I wish it was, Jayne
But it is not.
It came from Colin Lambert, PPC for Heywood & Middleton.
I suggest you contact him here to convey your disgust:
colin.lambert@thebrexitparty.org
This is off the only topic that matters here in the UK right now. Going off topic on a tangent like this over the next several weeks to few months is a danger to getting Brexit done. STAY ON TARGET.
Then idiots like Colin Lambert should be told not to freelance and lose potential votes
Brexit Party Chairman Richard Tice confirms to me that this is not Party policy. Cock-up, not conspiracy. Notes from an internal discussion document were wrongly posted. The Brexit Party endorses policy formation with wide participation based on facts, reason, and open debate.
Dr Edmund Fordham, Brexit Party PPC for Bury St Edmunds
Well, that’s a relief then.
Greta
Gretard
Gretarded
Gretardation!
The enemy use Rhetoric, use it back, they won’t listen to the Dialectic arguments anyway!
“When the enemy use human shields, you blow the human shield away, and then you blow them away, then they don’t use human shields again!” – Vox Day.
https://www.unauthorized.tv/programs/darkstreams-3f4d75?cid=448037
Owen Benjamin “Nothing New under the Sun”
David Suzuki’s Daughter addressing the “UN Conference of Environment and Development, Rio De Janiro 3-14th June 1992”
Old tactics revisited.
Michael Gove was also given the facts but was fobbed off. Fools