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Chile Cancels Climate Summit As Climate Policies Spark Protests

October 31, 2019
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By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Robin Guenier

 

 

As usual, you you cannot trust the BBC to give you all the facts:

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Chile has pulled out of hosting two major international summits, including a UN climate change conference, as anti-government protests continue.

 

President Sebastián Piñera said the decision had caused him “pain” but his government needed “to prioritise re-establishing public order”.

The COP25 climate summit was scheduled for 2 to 13 December, while the Apec trade forum was next month.

The UN said it was now looking at alternative venues.

World leaders were to gather at this year’s Conference of the Parties (COP) to discuss the implementation of the Paris Accord – a landmark international climate agreement, first signed at COP21 in December 2015.

This is the first time a country has pulled out of hosting the conference at such short notice.

The demonstrations were originally triggered by a now-suspended rise in the price of metro fares in Santiago.

However protesters are now marching to express their discontent over a wide variety of problems ranging from inequality to the high cost of healthcare.

 

The decision comes amid a number of global climate protests, including a week of strikes led by environmental activist Greta Thunberg last month.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-50233678

Not only do they not explain the real reason behind the riots, they even have the cheek to link it to “global climate protests”.

For the full story, you need to go to Epoch Times:

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Climate activists and the United Nations are suffering a major black eye this week as protests and riots resulting from high energy prices have erupted in Santiago, Chile.

Chile, which will host a major U.N. climate conference in December, earned praise from climate activists for recently imposing a carbon dioxide tax on conventional energy sources and switching the Santiago Metro system to renewable power. Now, the people of Chile are rising up and firing a shot across the bow of other nations considering similar energy taxes and expensive renewable energy programs.

On Oct. 25, protestors took to the streets throughout Santiago in response to Metro fare hikes. The protests soon spread to other cities and led to rioting and at least five reported deaths. The Chilean government and the legacy media blamed the fare hikes on rising oil prices. But that isn’t true.

Oil prices aren’t rising. Global oil prices are currently 25 percent lower than they were a year ago and 37 percent lower than they were five years ago.

In Chile, gasoline prices reflect the lower oil prices. Chilean gasoline prices were $1.12 per liter in August (the most recent month for which data are available), compared to $1.28 a year ago. Five years ago, gasoline sold at $1.50.

Santiago Metro fares are rising, amid falling oil and gasoline prices, because government officials in 2018 traded out most of the Metro’s energy sources to wind and solar power from conventional sources. The Chilean government also hit the portion of conventional power that remains with new carbon dioxide taxes.

As a result, Chileans are now burdened by higher Metro fares reflecting unnecessary energy price increases. As Chileans protest, climate activists and their media allies want people to believe oil is to blame, rather than government climate programs that raise energy prices and impoverish people.

Unlike speculative climate change woes that never seem to materialize, carbon dioxide taxes and renewable energy mandates immediately and measurably raise living costs and reduce living standards. In the United States, people may have some concern about climate change, but polling shows most Americans aren’t willing to pay $2 per month to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

In Chile, where per-capita income is merely one-quarter of U.S. per-capita income, people are understandably even less willing to pay for carbon dioxide reduction. Moreover, Chile’s per-capita income is higher than that of most other Latin American countries, so people in other Latin American countries would be even more likely to rise up and protest economically destructive climate change programs like the ones imposed in Chile.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/expensive-climate-policies-sparked-the-chile-riots-just-like-the-yellow-vest-protests-in-france_3127717.htm

To bracket the Chile protests with Greta and XR protests is simply absurd.

The latter are the actions of spoilt eco-loons wanting to foist their ridiculous ideas on the rest of us, and a bunch of silly school kids bunking off school.

Chile’s protestors on the other hand, as with the Gilets-Jaune in France and Dutch farmers, are angry about the costs being imposed on them in the name of “saving the climate”.

A few pounds here and there may not seem much to affluent westerners, but it is a lot to the average commuter in Chile.

And these price rises are the thin end of the wedge, if the climate mafia gets its way.

James Taylor makes a specific point about how the Chile metro system has been switched to renewable power. This is the article he links to:

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Santiago’s metro system – which transports approximately 2.4 million passengers each day – will become one of the first subways in the world to source most of its power needs from renewable energy.

Next year, Latin America’s second largest subway system, will source 60 per cent of its energy from solar and wind projects.

In a statement Metro de Santiago said that it had signed two 15-year agreements, one with a solar energy provider, and another with a wind power company.

According to The Wall Street Journal, California-based SunPower’s will supply 42 per cent of the subway system’s power with a 100-megawatt (MW) solar plant using 254,000 panels covering an area the size of 370 football fields, located in northern Chile’s Atacama Desert.

The remaining 18 per cent will be provided by a recently developed wind farm located just north of the SunPower solar project, The Wall Street Journal said.

http://www.climateaction.org/news/chiles-largest-metro-network-to-be-powered-by-solar-and-wind

45 Comments
  1. Thomas Carr permalink
    October 31, 2019 10:58 am

    Not a word about the problems for supplying electricity for the Santiago metro system on windless nights in Chile as far as I can see.

  2. Robin Guenier permalink
    October 31, 2019 11:03 am

    An extract from the Wall Street Journal:

    … the catalyst was a proposal to raise public transport fares and energy bills. There is ample evidence from across the world that these will incite rebellion like nothing else — a point that those who hope to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions via a carbon tax should bear in mind. The violent protests of the Gilets Jaunes in France were over higher gasoline taxes, which were seen as penalizing car-dependent people in the provinces while favoring metropolitan elites. Mexico in 2017 saw riots and protests against what was known as the “gasolinazo,” a 20% rise in fuel prices that was a part of the government’s partial privatization of Pemex, the monopoly state oil company. Last year, Brazil was rocked by protests and a strike by truck drivers in response to fuel shortages and a sharp increase in the price of diesel.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?destination=%2fbusiness%2fenergy%2fchiles-violence-has-a-worrisome-message-for-the-world%2f2019%2f10%2f22%2faa3430b6-f4c8-11e9-b2d2- (Behind a paywall)

    • Robin Guenier permalink
      October 31, 2019 11:43 am

      The extract’s from the Washington Post, not the Wall Street Journal. Apologies.

  3. October 31, 2019 11:09 am

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.press.

  4. Up2snuff permalink
    October 31, 2019 11:26 am

    Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

    Just think of all the CO2 that will be saved from the flights to Chile and other activities involved, all the methane saved from the ‘foreign food’ and all the hot air reduced from the lobbying, debates, speeches and MSM coverage.

    Got to be a big ‘Win, Win’ for the planet, eh? 😉

  5. Robin Guenier permalink
    October 31, 2019 11:36 am

    Paul: ‘Not only do they explain the real reason behind the riots‘ should read ‘Not only do they not explain…‘.

  6. Carol Harding permalink
    October 31, 2019 12:15 pm

    If “Global oil prices are currently 25 percent lower than they were a year ago and 37 percent lower than they were five years ago”, how come petrol prices in my town are at around £130 ppl?

    • dennisambler permalink
      October 31, 2019 12:41 pm

      Just come back from a fortnight in Perth, Australia. Petrol is around 77p per litre, diesel around 82p.

      • October 31, 2019 3:14 pm

        Dennis, please let me know where I can buy petrol at 77c per litre in Perth WA. Thats about half of what I am currently paying.

      • dennisambler permalink
        November 1, 2019 11:33 am

        erl happ

        I said pence per litre equivalent, not Aus cents. range is around Aus 1.45 to 1.54 for diesel

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      October 31, 2019 1:38 pm

      In the UK petrol /diesel at the pump has a 20% VAT levy on top of other duties so even if fuel duties per litre are frozen oil price rises give an increase in revenue to the Exchequer. The crude oil price is roughly the same as a year ago so the cost of petrol/diesel should be simi2 in the UK. Checking at the RAC the average price of petrol in the UK on 05/11/2018 was just over £1.30 a litre today about £1.26, which tends to agree with what the article says.

      • Gamecock permalink
        October 31, 2019 1:56 pm

        It’s about 60 cents (US) per liter around here. Government doesn’t make as much money off it here as in Europe. But government does make more from it here than the oil companies do.

  7. Neil Wilkinson permalink
    October 31, 2019 12:18 pm

    29 days sailing wasted 😀 https://realclimatescience.com/2019/10/the-ship-to-nowhere/

  8. It doesn't add up... permalink
    October 31, 2019 12:58 pm

    The Chileans bought their metro system from the French (who also got the contract for earthquake prone Mexico City). Perhaps they should have included some cheap nuclear to power it – back then there was no expensive nonsense like EPRs.

    Chile’s generation in 2018 in TWh was

    Wind 3.7
    Solar 5.1
    Biomass etc. 1.7
    Hydro 23.1
    Coal 29.5
    Gas 10.7
    Oil 1.2

    They have an abortive CSP bird fryer solar plant for which they are paying dearly, and the renewables sector is a mess.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chile-energy-solar/in-chiles-atacama-desert-a-cautionary-tale-for-bold-renewable-energy-vows-

    Perhaps it’s time they allowed some real engineers to set their policy.

  9. Broadlands permalink
    October 31, 2019 1:06 pm

    “… the catalyst was a proposal to raise public transport fares and energy bills. There is ample evidence from across the world that these will incite rebellion like nothing else — a point that those who hope to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions via a carbon tax should bear in mind.”

    Indeed. It should be obvious that if CO2 emissions are reduced the availability of fuels must be curtailed. The dumb idea was to stop using carbon fuels and leave carbon in the ground. The supplies available for transportation will cause shortages and increases in prices. Adding taxes on top makes it even worse. The irony is the fact that rapid lowering of CO2 does nothing to lower what has already been added to the atmosphere. Incredibly stupid idea from policy makers in Paris…or economists elsewhere.

    • Up2snuff permalink
      November 1, 2019 2:29 pm

      Some economists – well, this one does – would argue that taxing transport AT ALL is the most stupidest of ideas ever. Transport is so integral to the life of a nation that taxing it produces continual and increasing harms. This is magnified when you have a service sector that dwarfs manufacturing in the economy.

      It also does nothing to reduce CO2 emissions; in fact the reverse occurs. Where you have a high social model (European) economy, supported by taxation, taxing road fuels especially provides a perverse incentive for Government to ensure that MORE fuel is used, especially with drivers at a standstill or using very poor roads, to generate ever greater revenue for Treasury.

  10. Saighdear permalink
    October 31, 2019 1:18 pm

    Anyone making plans to come to Glasgow?

    • HotScot permalink
      October 31, 2019 9:57 pm

      Having considered retiring there in a couple of years time, I watched this video on the damage low frequency noise from wind turbines can do to people. Now, I’l stick to living in the South East.

      If anyone is living anywhere near these things they are heading for an early death.

      https://livestream.com/itmsstudio/events/8781285/videos/196181579?fbclid=IwAR1qDQNhEo87cUf-ydglUWNm0N45nnjo6n0vq3jtDRLcGFUvql0MIQgqlsM

      • Saighdear permalink
        October 31, 2019 10:44 pm

        Hoch mannie, I thocht that maybe you already lived roon aboot there! Glasgow an Weenmulls? Oh yes indeed that large field of them to the south – well there are many more scattered around the Hielands and watterlands butheres them thar green hills in beween to shelter us somewhat ….Or ? Ask the whales ( beaching etc ?)
        Shouldnt Pp who want them HAVE Them on their doorstep / street corner – reduced carbon Bootprint by supplying from point of production – Like those new City Gardens ?

        Aye I’ll research that Leave.eu App too thanks

      • mikewaite permalink
        November 1, 2019 11:18 am

        HotScot, I don’t think the South East is safe. Corbyn’s Govt will bring in a huge extension of onshore wind. There are perfect places for these infernal machines on the North and South Downs, Ashdown forest , the Sevenoaks Ridge, Hampstead Heath. and all along the Ridgeway on the Berkshire Downs. And I have not yet mentioned the Chilterns.All these places surround London, a major customer for power, and the power lines will be
        shorter than if the turbines are offshore.
        I am thinking that Somerset area might be safer if you don’t mind getting your feet wet occasionally.

  11. Gerry, England permalink
    October 31, 2019 1:52 pm

    St Greta will have wasted her time walking all the way there from New York – oh no, hang on, she was driven to Alberta to interfere with their election.

  12. Dan permalink
    October 31, 2019 2:36 pm

    Greta’s trip is no looking absurd. A trip on a very carbon intensive boat (embedded emissions = ~13TCO2) and a 6,600 mile car trip (1.3 TCO2e) along with the 7 flights 914 T CO2e) speaks volumes of hypocrisy.

    Now it is all for nougat.

  13. MrGrimNasty permalink
    October 31, 2019 4:02 pm

    It said on the news last night Boris is expected to announce a moratorium on Fracking to appeal to the ‘green’ vote.

    If he stepped outside the echo chamber of his inner circle and the eco-nutjob pressure groups, he might realise he’ll risk losing more than he gains.

    They are also hardening their stance on smart meters, gov. source said those who refuse better get used to punitive rates.

    These people really don’t have a clue what the public think and how damaging their energy policy is.

    • Saighdear permalink
      October 31, 2019 4:22 pm

      trouble is… Politics is a GAME to some – others see it as a PAIN. mebbe boriss sees it as a game – OR doesn’t want to win the election either -” gonna nae go there” kinda thing.
      Yes, I too read about the smart meter rubbish – what’re they going to do where a single Farm Meter is situated in the Outbuildings – not in the house ?

    • HotScot permalink
      October 31, 2019 10:00 pm

      The arm twisting has already begun. Just try switching your provider. You are faced with the big ones saying you must accept a smart meter before they will supply their electricity and gas.

  14. October 31, 2019 4:09 pm

    Teenage Climate Zealot Greta Thunberg Demands Facebook Censor Her Critics:
    https://climatechangedispatch.com/greta-facebook-censor-critics/

    • October 31, 2019 5:48 pm

      How Dare she !
      Two faced little hypocrite, she couldn’t get enough of TwaterFace when receiving all the adulation, & she’s used the denier term often enough but doesn’t like criticism, well she’d better get used to it, as more people come to understand what harm she is doing.

      When her usefulness comes to an end she’ll be dumped & end up with more mental problems in trying to deal with the rejection.

      Her parents put her in that position, the bastards should be prosecuted for child abuse.

      • HotScot permalink
        October 31, 2019 10:04 pm

        saveenergy

        I gather a concerned citizen is bringing up a case for child abuse against them in the Swedish courts.

    • HotScot permalink
      October 31, 2019 10:03 pm

      Allowing hate speech, the lack of fact-checking and, of course, the issues of interfering with democracy… are among many, many other things that are very upsetting.

      Seems she’s getting it at last. /sarc!

  15. Athelstan. permalink
    October 31, 2019 5:26 pm

    Indeed, the French, the Chileans and the Dutch farmers have the correct ‘medicine’: climate change is all lies and political guff and they won’t put up with it – not one second longer – good for them!

    Very unfortunately, here in benightedy, we’re all just so f**7ed and the climate scam drilled into kids minds – unconscionable it is, unbearable – too and now totally unaffordable but what they wanna do……………..

    carbon zero – is beyond insane.

    what we need to do, is bin the yellow filth, the reds in the bed lavs, the nearly red Cons and the mental reds – greens.

    December the 12th you have a heaven sent opportunity to do – just that.

    Use your vote to bin the green ecomentalism and westminster talking shop: with it.

    • HotScot permalink
      October 31, 2019 10:07 pm

      Visit Leave.eu. They have a tactical voting app coming out that informs you of the best candidate to vote for in your area to ensure Brexit happens. Then we can start pressurising our own government.

      • Athelstan. permalink
        November 1, 2019 4:41 pm

        Cheers for the info HC.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      November 1, 2019 2:01 pm

      The problem as ever is that we will once again be presented with ignorant dross wanting to be elected to the House of Retards. It might be different from the current dross, but dross none the less. And once there, half of the governing party MPs will become part of government and so fail to represent their constituents by holding the executive to account. What we need is a democratic system such as The Harrogate Agenda to replace our sham democracy.

      • Athelstan. permalink
        November 1, 2019 4:44 pm

        “House of Retards”

        I’m going to quote that, very good.

        The HA – fully agree, we need a massive correction in fundamental reform of the political system and the HA defo’ would be the method.

  16. dennisambler permalink
    November 1, 2019 11:38 am

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-50255460
    Seems Spain is happy to step in.

    “Around 25,000 people are expected to attend the summit.

    One of the most celebrated is Greta Thunberg who had crossed the ocean by yacht in order to travel to Chile in the most low-carbon manner.

    She is now in Los Angeles – it remains to be seen if she will be able to get to Madrid on time if the Spanish capital is accepted as the new home of COP25.”

    She could always fly…

    • Athelstan. permalink
      November 1, 2019 4:46 pm

      the eco gloomgoblin, to ride home…………….. she can borrow her ma’s broomstick.

    • Malcolm Skipper permalink
      November 1, 2019 8:07 pm

      After the move to Madrid was confirmed on Friday, Ms Thunberg appealed for help.
      “It turns out I’ve travelled half around the world, the wrong way,” she tweeted. “Now I need to find a way to cross the Atlantic in November…,” she added. “If anyone could help me find transport I would be so grateful.”
      Ms Thunberg voiced regret about not being able to visit Central and South America as planned, saying she had been looking forward to doing so.
      “But this is of course not about me, my experiences or where I wish to travel. We’re in a climate and ecological emergency,” she said.

      https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2019/11/01/thunberg-in-transport-plea-as-un-climate-meeting-relocated-from/?ncid=webmail

  17. November 7, 2019 3:09 am

    I’ve been reading about those protests going on in Chile right now. You can find some pictures online of the police there getting hit by protesters throwing molotov cocktails. It looked like the police got hit pretty hard too!

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