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General election 2019: Green Party pledges £100bn a year for climate action

November 6, 2019

By Paul Homewood

 

Who let the loonies out?

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The Green Party will pledge to invest £100bn a year in climate action for a decade if it gets into power.

Launching her campaign in Bristol, co-leader Sian Berry will say: "Some things are even bigger than Brexit. This must be the climate election."

The party says it will fund the pledge by borrowing £91.2bn a year, with a further £9bn from "tax changes" including a rise in corporation tax.

The Greens will also set out plans to make Britain carbon neutral by 2030.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50305284

 

As if the other parties promises were not bade enough!

£100bn equates to £3700 for every household in the country. Does it not occur to these morons that, sooner or later, it will all have to be paid back.

The Green’s co-leader, Jonathan Bartley, even seems to think spending all of this money will actually make a difference to the climate:

We have to make this investment if we’re going to tackle the climate emergency.

"And we have to make it now rather than in 10 years’ time because we know the change has to come and be completed in 10 years.

Of course, it will save us a hell of a lot money in the long run. The climate emergency – if it comes to fruition – does not bear thinking about in terms of the cost of trillions to the economy."

52 Comments leave one →
  1. Joe Public permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:15 pm

    With those Green Party policies, we’d have a national blackout this morning.

    At 10:00 am, National Grid Control Room reported only 8% (!!) of generation was by sources acceptable to the Green Party.

    • Colin MacDonald permalink
      November 6, 2019 5:18 pm

      And the grid only accounts for around a third of our CO2 emissions. The rest, heating, transport, agriculture, industry is almost entirely powered by fossil fuels.

  2. Pancho Plail permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:19 pm

    The Green Party will investwaste £100Bn a year.

    • Chaswarnertoo permalink
      November 6, 2019 1:06 pm

      I’m sure, as politicians, that much of that will be pocketed and not wasted ( by their views).

  3. David Parker permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:21 pm

    If there would be a debate by eminent scientists on both sides of the argument, none of whom had their salaries etc. relying on what they had to say, I would be delighted for the election to be about the climate.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      November 6, 2019 5:04 pm

      You ask the impossible Mr Parker. There are no eminent scientists who support global warming.

  4. Gary Hills permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:33 pm

    Same formula – “Have we scared you enough now? Put us in power and cede control of your money, commerce, and industry to us. We pledge to make the world safe for you.” (even though it will be only a small part of the world they control)

    • Michael adams permalink
      November 7, 2019 12:08 pm

      You can promise what you like if you know you will never be in power.

  5. swan101 permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:35 pm

    Reblogged this on ECO-ENERGY DATABASE.

  6. jack broughton permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:36 pm

    An important feature of this “investment” is lack of value for money. What is the benefit to the world of the UK squandering money that would not effect the CO2, even if that was a significant factor in the climate. Even worse the UK would be diverting money that could be well-used for social improvement just so the climate-elite could feel good.

  7. Harry Passfield permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:38 pm

    Bartley even pushed the idea that employing all these poeple to rip out gas boilers, install heat pumps and super insulation will be a benefit as they will pay taxes on their earnings which will help offset the £91B/year loans! Now, I wonder where the catch is in that……?

    • Phillip Bratby permalink
      November 6, 2019 4:30 pm

      It sounds a bit like the broken window fallacy.

      • Man at the Back permalink
        November 6, 2019 7:04 pm

        Yes Phillip – where is Frederick Bastiat when you need him?

        West Burton coal fired power station running today??!! Of course Cottam gas fired next door was closed a few weeks ago.

        What can possibly go wrong here?

    • Gerry, England permalink
      November 6, 2019 5:08 pm

      That these people could have been doing something beneficial for the economy.

  8. Simon Kelly permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:41 pm

    It’s peak clown world politics. Mrs T’s wise words spring to mind: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money”.

  9. Barbara Elsmore permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:41 pm

    I would like to ask the question face to face with anyone who takes this line ‘What exactly is the climate emergency and how will it manifest itself?’.

    • HotScot permalink
      November 6, 2019 1:23 pm

      Barbara

      I’ve tried that tack. They cite desertification (not happening), extreme weather (not happening), famine (not happening), climate change migration (not happening), crops production collapsing (not happening) and of course sea level rise swamping coastal cities (at 2 – 3 mm per year), Exxon knew, Greta, Attenborough etc………

      When you knock these hysterical claims down one by one they revert to “97% of scientists say so”. And when you knock that down they begin again. Desertification, extreme weather, famine……..etc.

      It just goes round in circles.

      • chaswarnertoo permalink
        November 6, 2019 4:08 pm

        They believe. Your stinkin’ facts don’t count…..

  10. charles wardrop permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:43 pm

    “Climate emergency” lacks any definition so is imaginary.

  11. Mike Stoddart permalink
    November 6, 2019 12:59 pm

    As this is a global problem presumably other nations will also have to take similar steps if it is to be addressed.
    Who will they all be borrowing from?
    Themselves?

  12. Dave Ward permalink
    November 6, 2019 1:12 pm

    “The climate emergency – IF it comes to fruition”

    And that two letter word explains everything wrong with this ludicrous plan…

  13. November 6, 2019 1:36 pm

    Another branch of the extreme left fantasy brigade. Listen to this interview of their leader by Andrew Neil to illustrate the ludicrous incompetence of these people https://youtu.be/32aqb167NkE

    If these people or Corbyn and his cronies ever get anywhere near government then the flight of capital and the highest taxpayers will be massive. Then ask who will pay for all the state spending.

  14. Chilli permalink
    November 6, 2019 1:38 pm

    We may scoff at these loony green policies but they have successfully shifted the Overton Window so Boris can now present his own green policies (banning shale gas, phasing out petrol cars and gas central heating) as if they were moderate and sensible. With the Brexit party adopting similar go-along-to-get along green policies and UKIP still in meltdown – what hope for climate sanity?

    • chaswarnertoo permalink
      November 6, 2019 4:13 pm

      I have explosives…..

      • Dave Ward permalink
        November 6, 2019 7:32 pm

        “I have explosives…..”

        They’ll be banned – think of the carbon emissions!

  15. November 6, 2019 2:16 pm

    “sooner or later, it will all have to be paid back”

    No it won’t!

    These people will announce a new Fiscal Strategy, that of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). We have money printing presses so we can print the required money, have a huge deficit and there is no problem, so long as inflation is kept in check.
    I am not joking here, MMT is inbound for all the Spenders in Government,

    RS

  16. Gamecock permalink
    November 6, 2019 2:30 pm

    ‘The Green Party will pledge to invest £100bn a year in climate action for a decade if it gets into power.’

    Who knew the Green Party had that kind of money? Wait . . . what? Not going to use THEIR money? Going to use YOUR money?

    • November 7, 2019 9:55 am

      The climate emergency – if it comes to fruition – does not bear thinking about in terms of the cost of trillions to the economy.”

      There wouldn’t even be an economy left to talk about under their so-called climate spending plans. Except maybe for wheelbarrow makers selling replacements for purses and wallets.

      • Rowland P of Pewsey permalink
        November 7, 2019 12:45 pm

        “if” – it’s all down to the precautionary principle, old boy! We must spend the money regardless of whether it actually turns out to be necessary.

  17. Shoki Kaneda permalink
    November 6, 2019 2:37 pm

    Easy to make pledges when you haven’t a snowball’s chance.

  18. Terry Breverton permalink
    November 6, 2019 2:39 pm

    It’s incredibly sad that politicians give the time of day to these Muppets and the truly mental Extinction Rebellion people. Britain’s true level of debt is running at £6 trillion according to Money Week, and we can never ever pay off the interest on our loans. When global interest rates rise, the pound will be worth nothing and the economy will collapse. Perhaps then these people can see how almost 70 million people can survive in the UK. We need to repair the economy not wreck it…

  19. Coeur de Lion permalink
    November 6, 2019 2:54 pm

    Off thread again but I’m panicking! Gridwatch had wind producing under two per cent of our electricity while coal is at five per cent. AARGH!

  20. bobn permalink
    November 6, 2019 3:20 pm

    Whilst of course CO2 does not change the climate and all their spending would make no difference. They are idiotically wrong to say
    ‘The climate emergency – the cost of trillions to the economy.”
    If the climate warms (please i hope it does) we will save trillions. Far less heating costs, more productive agriculture with new crop varieties possible, lower costs for outdoor work such as construction, more people cycling in the warm weather rather than using cars ’cause its too cold to walk’. The benefits of a warmer climate are huge. Just a shame that mankind cant do anything to bring about a warmer climate.

    • chaswarnertoo permalink
      November 6, 2019 4:11 pm

      Worse, we appear to heading for a grand solar minimum and the associated little ice age.

      • Man at the Back permalink
        November 6, 2019 7:18 pm

        Once again let me introduce those who have not seen it , to –

        https://www.iceagenow.info/

        I look here every day, not for his main theory on Ice Ages etc (although intriguing) but to see the array of cold events in the world that you will never hear about through the MSM. As he says people send him stuff!!

        The last month of articles are quite interesting!!!

  21. John Warren permalink
    November 6, 2019 3:20 pm

    Can these people really believe that such huge sums can be realised ? I am completely shattered by their unreality ! And they continue to believe that a carbon neutral UK makes any difference whatsoever to world levels. They would be better off insisting the world population must be reduced, for that, I believe, is the driver of all the resource and pollution, problems the world is faced with.

  22. mikewaite permalink
    November 6, 2019 4:57 pm

    At lunchtime the BBC, with barely muted glee, announced that the attempt by the Met to ban ER demos in London had been declared unlawful. Green leader jubilant. The coming election period is likely to be lively on the streets of London and other towns and cities as a result of this ruling as some are calling this the “climate election”

  23. November 6, 2019 5:11 pm

    Local library has few papers these days
    but the new edition of The XR newspaper The Hourglass is out on the table
    see pics on Twitter

  24. November 6, 2019 5:25 pm

    In 2018, there were 27.6 million households in the UK
    So if each household pays £1,000 you get
    £27.6 billion
    To get 100bn each household pays £4,000
    £80/week
    What are you going to cut back on to pay it ?

    • dave permalink
      November 6, 2019 6:44 pm

      We have to remember that some 10-15% of young people in the West NOW ACTUALLY BELIEVE that they will die in ten years’ time “from climate change”, unless they wrest immediate control from all the “selfish ,old, mad, people” a.k.a. their parents.

      • grammarschoolman permalink
        November 6, 2019 10:14 pm

        Well, in fairness, that might leave space for the sensible people to take over again.

  25. George Lawson permalink
    November 6, 2019 7:10 pm

    Let’s hope they continue to broadcast their preposterous promises as the more they do, the less people are going to vote for these fanatically stupid idiots. Many of the members of the Green Party must be questioning the stupidity of their parties leadership.

  26. Phoenix44 permalink
    November 6, 2019 9:35 pm

    It’s true that a climate emergency would cost more. But it wouldn’t happen for decades. You simply cannot compare spending £100 billion today and £120 billion in fifty years time and say we are “saving”money by spending the £100 billion. We will also be far richer in fifty years ti e and so the £120 billion will be much more affordable. But such things are not considered by Greens because that would stop us doing stupid stuff.

  27. saparonia permalink
    November 6, 2019 10:52 pm

    What nobody tells us is how all this money will help the person in the street.
    Obviously no matter how much money you throw at it, the temperature of the planet is not going to be altered even if it is warming, which it isn’t. It’s getting colder.
    To think we are stupid enough to think that money is going to be spent altruistically then we deserve a stupid green yuppy party to manage our country.
    Money better spent would be in making sure all the homeless people are given shelter before hell freezes over, they are still sitting on pavements in every city.

  28. November 7, 2019 8:07 am

    “The party says it will fund the pledge by borrowing £91.2bn a year, with a further £9bn from “tax changes” including a rise in corporation tax.”

    Having read every ones comments on this. No one has pointed out the real problem.
    It is the word “borrowing”. So who will they be “borrowing” this from and how much will they have to repay. Why would a government be “borrowing” money from any one. Can a government not create and issue its own money with out having to be “borrowing” from any one. All of the parties say the same thing when they cost there policies they talk about how much the need to be “borrowing” and how they will pay it back.
    So who is it that has all this money they are going to be “borrowing” does some one have a big pile of money that they are going to loan maybe lots of gold. No that is not true whoever the UK government go “borrowing” from will simply create this money out of thin air they will not print it the money will never actually exist. It will just be an entry on computer ledgers it will only exist in the cloud.
    But like the 14 years of austerity we have just endured . Peoples lives will be made harder and economic stagnation will continue as we try to pay back the money we are “borrowing”.
    Until people realise this big CON that rules our lives and force a change it will continue.
    We will all argue about how much we should be “borrowing” and how it should best be spent
    and no one will question the word “borrowing”

  29. mjr permalink
    November 7, 2019 12:35 pm

    Just seen the you gov poll on election issues in guido. https://order-order.com/ . They note that crime and the”environment” are the big climbers since 2017 (10%.30%). What concerns me is that climate change lobbyists will quote this 30% figure. You gov should have split this down. I have concerns about the environment (pollution, air quality, waste, deforestation etc) i do NOT have any concerns about global warming. But this poll will group both me (as a normal person with common sense) and XR nutters together. .

  30. November 7, 2019 9:43 pm

    I’ll say it again
    That’s £4,000 per year per household
    So what are you going to give up to pay for the green-dream schemes.

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