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Labour Is Coming For Your Cars

December 1, 2019

By Paul Homewood

 

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https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/a-green-industrial-revolution/ 

Labour’s new manifesto has been deliberately vague about its policies to decarbonise transport, following attacks from its trade union backers worried about the effect on jobs.

It talks about improving public transport, investing in EV charging infrastructure and supporting EV manufacture. In other words, all of the usual, bland promises all the parties are making. Nowhere is there any mention of concrete action.

However, we do have a pretty good idea of what they intend, because we have the Thirty by 2030 report,  published in October, which they commissioned and which they have already endorsed.

This included some very specific recommendations for the transport sector:

 

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https://labour.org.uk/press/labour-welcomes-report-putting-uk-onto-the-path-to-net-zero-energy-emissions-in-the-2030s/

 

Perhaps the most significant is the target to have between 21.5m and 25m EVs on the road by 2030, out of a total of about 32m. Assuming a lifetime of ten years for cars, this would effectively mean that all new car sales would have to be EV by about 2025 at the latest. (New car sales are running at 2.4m a year at the moment, so if every new car sold from now was an EV, we would only get to 24m by 2030).

This raises the question of how drivers are to be “encouraged” to buy EV. The simple fact is that very few want them, even with massive subsidies. Will Labour tax petrol and diesel cars at punitive levels to force them off the market? Will car manufacturers be restricted to the number of them they can make and sell? (Presumably something the EU would not allow anyway!)

The report is also clear that by 2030, all EVs must be pure electric, and not hybrid.

The second sinister demand is that, even if all new cars are EVs, vehicle mileage must be reduced by 20% at the very least, but maybe up to 60% by 2035, if we are to meet our climate targets. Apparently our future mobility will be determined by “modelling assumptions”! (I assume this relates to assumptions made about the sources of electricity).

This is quite a horrific proposal, and it is not surprising labour are keeping quiet about it, as it will totally transform people’s lives, and not for the better. Just imagine what impact on your life reducing mileage by 60% would have.

It would almost certainly mean you could not use your car to get to work, and instead have to waste time and money using public transport. Maybe you would have to think twice before having a day out in the countryside, or taking the car on holiday.

Then there is the question of how they would enforce this reduced usage. Would there be punitive road pricing, in order to force poorer drivers off the roads, leaving them free for the better off? Would there be some form of rationing? Maybe a Paris style system where you are only allowed to drive on certain days of the week?

Or perhaps the simplest option of them all – increasing taxes on car ownership so high that most ordinary people could not afford cars at all.

 

Whatever the outcome, it is bound to be extremely bad news for ordinary motorists. Little wonder then that the Labour manifesto is so desperate to hide it from voters.

34 Comments
  1. December 1, 2019 1:10 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.press.

  2. Jason permalink
    December 1, 2019 1:11 pm

    The method for achieving this is simple. Driving and parking cars will be made increasingly expensive, impossible and illegal. It’s happening already in the UK and faster, with dire consequences, in Belgium. No thought whatsoever will be given to the often terrible consequences for millions of people.

    • grammarschoolman permalink
      December 1, 2019 1:34 pm

      Or to the protests on the streets that will inevitably result.

      • Jeff Todd permalink
        December 1, 2019 4:19 pm

        See the last 12 months in France for details

  3. Dick Goodwin permalink
    December 1, 2019 1:19 pm

    Paul, I like your optimism that some people will still be able to get on public transport in ten years time.

  4. Peter Yarnall permalink
    December 1, 2019 1:40 pm

    “Leaving roads (free) for the better off”? Knowing what Labour think of “the better off”, I think it is pretty safe to assume that they really mean “Government Officials”, with all the rest of us trapped in our communities, desperately banking on strike paralysed public transport.
    At least that will make us easier to control and observe!

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      December 1, 2019 2:37 pm

      Yes, there will be Zeal lanes…

      • Chaswarnertoo permalink
        December 2, 2019 10:50 am

        Zil. Zeal for ‘climate catastrophe’ aka lying their heads off.

  5. A C Osborn permalink
    December 1, 2019 3:27 pm

    Their assessment of the EV Electricity requirements seem just a tad low with an increase of 10% by 2030, which would be about 4Gw based on current demand.
    They have no concept of the amount of actual Power supplied by Petrol & Diesel ie about 40Kwh per UK Gallon.
    if my arithmetic is correct that is 21.5Million vehicles at 300Gallons/year (at 40Mpg doing 12000 miles a year) is approximately 255,000,000,000Kwh

    Like everything else about them they haven’t thought it through because they are incapable of doing so.

    • In The real World permalink
      December 1, 2019 4:48 pm

      Ministry of Transport figures show 45 million cars & light vans for the UK .. Even if they are all using the smallest rate chargers , that would need about 200 GWh of generation capacity if they all plugged in together .
      In the Winter months there is only about 10 GWh spare at night only , so it would need a generation capacity increase over 400% . Or would mean that you would be rationed to about 30 miles per month driving .
      Which is probably why they mentioned cutting back driving by 60% , which is still a lot more than could be done with the total amount of generation capacity .

      And that does not include commercial transport , which would probably double the amount again needed for cars .

    • dave permalink
      December 1, 2019 5:25 pm

      It is correct that a gallon of petrol “contains” about 40 KWh.
      However the thermal efficiency of internal combustion engines is low at about 25%
      while the thermal efficiency of electric motors is pretty high.

      The net result is that to replace a gallon of petrol (40 miles of transport) takes much less than 40 KWh drawn from the grid.

      Of course, it is still a silly idea to force such a change – for all sorts of reasons.

      • In the Real World permalink
        December 1, 2019 6:37 pm

        It is true that electric motors are more energy efficient than petrol engines , An EV would only need about 12 to 14 KWh for the same range as a gallon of petrol .
        But it would be impossible to charge up the EV .
        Looking at Gridwatch at the moment , the total demand on the grid means that if 5% of the total cars were plugged in , then the grid would collapse .
        Complete blackout . There is no way to control the overload without shutting down .And the low rate chargers mean that they need 10 hours charging for 100 miles of range .

      • Iain Reid permalink
        December 2, 2019 7:38 am

        Dave,

        you can’t look at just the electric motor in isolation. The real load is what is drawn at the generator and lost in transmission, distribution, rectification and power electronic drives to run the motor.
        I don’t know what that amounts to but at the present time, and I think for many years to come this extra load of evs will be met by fossil fuel generation, so that efficiency comes into play.
        It is, I think, utopian to believe that evs will be running on renewable generation in even twenty years time due to the many and real technical problems of incorporating large amounts of renewable generation on the grid and still keep it reliable.

      • dave permalink
        December 2, 2019 8:49 am

        You can use more of the 40 KWh, available with a gallon of oil fuel, to actually propel vehicles, by increasing the compression ratio in the pistons. Oh, wait! That is exactly what you do in a diesel engine, which apparently is now an invention of Satan.

  6. Roy Hartwell permalink
    December 1, 2019 3:43 pm

    Visions of the films of Soviet leaders storming through the Moscow streets in their chauffeur driven cars whilst ordinary plebs plod the streets desperately wrapped up against the cold.
    How nice it will be for Comrade Corbyn’s successors !!

  7. Tony Budd permalink
    December 1, 2019 4:20 pm

    Presumably all trucks, buses and trains will have to be electric before 2025, so is the electricity required for those also taken into account? – bear in mind that making motorists transfer to public transport would greatly increase public transport usage and so require more buses and trains, and thus a lot more electricity.

  8. markl permalink
    December 1, 2019 5:19 pm

    Another typical edict from the Green crowd that lacks any real planning or knowledge of the consequences.

  9. Dave Ward permalink
    December 1, 2019 6:14 pm

    “Then there is the question of how they would enforce this reduced usage”

    The disastrous Galileo GPS project was intended to make In-Car tracking systems easier for the EU to mandate. If every vehicle has such a system it’s a simple matter to regulate where, how often, and even IF you can drive…

  10. Jason permalink
    December 1, 2019 9:33 pm

    The Belgian article I posted. Read to the end..

    NEWS

    FROM 2021 ONWARDS, CAR REPORTS CONSUMPTION TO EU: POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL TAX FOR THOSE WHO CONSUME TOO MUCH
    November 30, 2019
    From 2021 onwards, car brands must report the actual consumption of cars and light commercial vehicles to the European Commission. From then on, new cars must be provided with a meter that records the actual fuel consumption and passes it on if necessary. That obligation is one of more shadowy clauses that forms part of the WLTP regulations. This new standard also meant a significant tax increase.

    Everyone’s fuel consumption checked
    The so-called OBFCM (On-Board Fuel Consumption Meter) must enable the government to check whether the manufacturer’s stated use does not deviate too much from the actual fuel consumption.

    The OBFCM is already in the program at most manufacturers. It is essentially part of the on-board computer. It will save the actual consumption over a longer period of time. During maintenance, it can then be read out and disappears into the car manufacturer’s databases. The exact procedures for this have not yet been established. However, it is obvious that the ‘connected’ cars of tomorrow will simply send that data automatically.

    Extra tax for frequent users
    The German opinion magazine Der Spiegel states that the data will not only be used in the future to hold manufacturers to account. The EU is already theorizing about a tax for drivers who consume too much. Drivers with an inefficient driving behavior can easily be identified in this way and the bill presented.

    • dave permalink
      December 2, 2019 9:40 am

      “Drivers with an inefficient driving behaviour.”

      e.g working stiffs who decline all invitations to throw their cars away, and to wait at the bus-stop on the off-chance that a bus will come along which is not filled to double capacity, all the while being splashed with mud from the luxury EVs of their betters.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      December 2, 2019 1:42 pm

      Perhaps all the new ‘green’ jobs are for coding geeks to come up with ways to fix the consumption meter and then sell them on ebay.

  11. December 2, 2019 12:59 am

    Reblogged this on ajmarciniak.

  12. Charlie permalink
    December 2, 2019 6:45 am

    What about the loss of tax revenue from petrol with the change over to EV’s? Or in general, the tax government gets from the whole fossil fuel cycle. Will electric cost just increase to compensate?

    • Gerry, England permalink
      December 2, 2019 1:38 pm

      Most likely every tax will have to increase to fund the green fairyland and with Laffer’s Law of diminishing returns, the UK will go bust.

  13. Gerry, England permalink
    December 2, 2019 1:44 pm

    If Corbyn’s Communists deliver all that they have planned then it is unlikely that driving to work will be a problem – there won’t be any work to drive to in the first place.

  14. December 2, 2019 1:57 pm

    Dead on Charlie! With no revenue from licences or fossil fuels, our roads will very quickly become like ‘Farm tracks’ and the additional problem of where to bury millions of clapped out batteries, solar panels, and Wind turbines,I don’t think burial at sea would be well received !!

  15. Alan Davidson permalink
    December 2, 2019 3:28 pm

    How would the huge number of people living in terraced houses, a block of flats etc who park in the street be expected to charge their EV? Cables trailing over the pavement? I don’t think so!

  16. swan101 permalink
    December 2, 2019 3:34 pm

    A very important posting – pity that the mainstream media has yet to expose same.

  17. swan101 permalink
    December 2, 2019 3:34 pm

    Reblogged this on ECO-ENERGY DATABASE and commented:
    IMPORTANT POST…please share.

  18. GeoffM permalink
    December 2, 2019 8:09 pm

    The idea of everyone going on public transport is already a joke. Our buses in my part of Scotland are already full. From my town buses can only go north or south on the same main road, and all the northbound buses before 8am were recently discontinued.
    And try Italy! Buses from Naples airport to the centre were packed in Sept, and people couldn’t get on buses on the Amalfi Coast because there wasn’t even standing room.
    When will the warmistas admit that the problem is too many people?

  19. john cooknell permalink
    December 3, 2019 10:11 pm

    Traffic congestion and lack of parking is a universal problem. Under Labour John Prescott policy, they built houses but nowhere for cars because we would all use public transport, failed policy, but if you listen to John he says a successful strategy failed in implementation, so not his fault. Idiot!

    Viewed from an aircraft the UK is dominated by traffic, so all them will be electric in 10 years time, alongside the flying pigs no doubt.

  20. December 5, 2019 2:56 pm

    all for removing cars from roads and having incredibly high taxes on cars and it taking me a little longer getting to / from work (maybe 20% on a 1 hour commute?)
    ….
    BUT, only if a reliable point to point cheap, all weather integrated transport solutions are developed first….

    ain’t gonna happen in my lifetime!

    massive investments in vehicle to vehicle communications technologies are needed,
    combined with integration to sensor solutions in highways
    only THEN will traffic become manageable – accident two miles away?, no problem, everyones car knows about it and work together to slow down / re-route, along with traffic lights staying static longer or less and roads being closed / opened to ‘unlock’ the mess.

    Private transport doesn’t work well for the environment right now because once a human’s shoved inside a significant lump of mass at a reasonable speed, they become incredibly selfish and will cause mile long snarl ups just to screw the guy that cut them up…

    Private transport with a massively integrated communications and sensor solution – Huge improvement in throughput

    Private Electrical transport with centralised road network intelligence and Vehicle to Vehicle communication……Massive efficiency boost!. your car will just slot into the motorway traffic as the vehicles on there will ‘know’ you’re approaching and all fractionally speed up / slow down to accommodate you

    At the end of the day, we all LOVE our own closed world private pods for transport,
    unless something DRASTIC is done, nowt’ll change

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