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The ‘climate doomers’ preparing for society to fall apart

March 17, 2020

By Paul Homewood

 

Why does the BBC continue to give any credibility whatsoever to these cranks?

 

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An article by a British professor that predicts the imminent collapse of society, as a result of climate change, has been downloaded over half a million times. Many mainstream climate scientists totally reject his claims, but his followers are already preparing for the worst.

As the last light of the late-winter sunset illuminates her suburban back garden, Rachel Ingrams is looking at the sky and pondering how long we have left.

Her hands shielded from the gusts of February air by a well-worn pair of gardening gloves, Rachel carefully places tree spinach and scarlet pimpernel seeds into brown plastic pots.

Over the past year, Rachel, 45, has invested in a greenhouse and four bright blue water butts, and started building a raised vegetable patch out of planks of wood. It’s all part of an effort to rewild her garden and become as close to self-sufficient as she can, while society continues to function.

Within the next five to 10 years, she says, climate change is going to cause it to fall apart. "I don’t see things lasting any longer than that."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-51857722

61 Comments
  1. March 17, 2020 11:43 am

    Wrong question Paul
    Why are we still paying the BBC to brainwash it’s listeners?

  2. March 17, 2020 11:44 am

    If doom was coming, this lunatic would be better off building an arms cache and teaching her kids to shoot. Just how long does she imagine would she would hold on to her sustainable garden come the apocalypse?

    • Mike Jackson permalink
      March 17, 2020 12:47 pm

      Episode 1 of James Burke’s “Connections” should be compulsory viewing, and not just for the doom-mongers. I read this piece on the BBC website and took the same view as you — she hasn’t a clue about survival, and to be honest neither do most of us!

      • Mad Mike permalink
        March 17, 2020 2:44 pm

        I remember in the late 60s it was all about oil running out and pretty much everything else as well. The arguments were well backed up with statistics, graphs etc and It all seemed plausible and, being young and inexperienced then, I went out and bought books on survival. Of course it was all nonsense and the world got richer, better fed and healthier. How many doomsayers have we had since and how many went before?

        If anybody believes this carp let me know and I’ll send you any survival handbooks I’ve got left.

    • March 17, 2020 4:25 pm

      We have an over excited younger generation (almost anyone under 40) with very limited historical knowledge or context, guided by social media, and who seem unaware of the huge advances made in the human condition in recent decades and as regards climate measures, voluntarily want to take all of us back to the dreadful standards of the pre industrial age without seeming to realise renewables can not possibly fill the energy gap. Madness.

      Trying to deal with their irrationality is very good training for the hysteria of the corona virus era, which both echo hysteria through the ages.

      ‘Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds’ was an early study of crowd psychology by Scottish journalist Charles Mackay, first published in 1841. In this he initially discusses economic bubbles, including the South Sea bubble and Tulip Mania and European fervour for causes such as the Medieval Crusades.

      Two quotes stand out from Mackay’s book;

      ‘Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.”

      ‘We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first.”

      Incidentally, taking my walk today everything was eerily normal. Builders on the building site opposite working, people walking dogs, cafes open with some people in them, the cliff railway and model village open and on a grey cool day four of the six tennis courts busy, all with older people. The council were even busy painting double yellow lines!

    • The Man at the Back permalink
      March 17, 2020 6:17 pm

      David G-J –

      I have been saying that to idealists of the sustainable gardening/housing idea for 30 years, who believed collapse was imminent . I visited one such idealist at his place in mid-Wales. The man was an engineer and many of his ideas were well based scientifically and well ahead of his time – insulation levels/airtightness/lack of ex-filtration/seasonal heat store and more.

      He wanted to be a survivor in the coming collapse of society. He was dumbstruck when I told him that one thing was missing. “what” he said. “The mounting point for a bloody big gun” I told him.

    • John Palmer permalink
      March 17, 2020 9:25 pm

      I’ve tried Googling this “Professor’s” details/CV but can only find references to this Bul****t Broadcasting Corp’s article.
      She’s clearly a genuine fruit-loop – “pondering how much longer we have left”. How very touching that she cares so much about humanity!!
      Where the f**k do the Beeb’s staff dig these nutters up from?
      Let them eat tree spinach and scarlet pimpernel, I say.
      At the very least, they’ll likely shuffle-off sooner.
      Total c**p ‘journalism’ again from our National Broadcaster!

  3. Thomas Carr permalink
    March 17, 2020 11:47 am

    Answer to your rhetorical question – and the same applies to broadcast media as in printed do:: there is a lot of time to be filled on the airwaves and good news does not sell.

  4. MrGrimNasty permalink
    March 17, 2020 11:51 am

    If she means climate change panic and policies will destroy our way of life, economy, and security, she’s probably right!

    • Robert Christopher permalink
      March 17, 2020 1:58 pm

      Britain’s ‘Zero (CO2) Emissions by 2050′ puts them ahead of the curve!
      Someone’s life will be demolished: either the Country’s or the Green Activists’.

  5. March 17, 2020 11:55 am

    a mental illness epidemic??

    there are research papers being published in peer reviewed journals where the author, a climate scientist, grieves for humanity and the planet.
    is climate science really a science?
    if so, why do they need to use the word “science” as many times as they do?

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/10/19/emotion/

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      March 17, 2020 3:24 pm

      Yep, lots of people have said it’s more like Climate Scientology. Alex Epstein:-

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2013/11/07/the-church-of-climate-scientology-rationalizes-some-of-the-worst-policies-in-our-history/#2ee6f5653283

      • March 17, 2020 3:35 pm

        Brilliant. Thanks.

      • The Man at the Back permalink
        March 17, 2020 6:52 pm

        Excellent MrGrim,

        That article is 6 years old. It was true then and it is true now. But in that 6 years the crap has got more widespread and more unbelievable. I can’t make up my mind whether it will all collapse due to its absurdity or perhaps its gone too far to pull back.

        I think reality has to win in the end – BUT.

        Sadly I will not live long enough to find out how it ends – that’s maddening really. I told you there wasn’t a god.

        Still that nice Mr Johnson tells me I am to be locked in my house soon and arrested if I venture out.

    • Robert Jones permalink
      March 17, 2020 3:41 pm

      It has never been a science. It is a means by which the unscrupulous can gain influence and money which they would not otherwise never achieve. Like all scams it has a shelf-life, which is rapidly approaching.

  6. Tom Taylor permalink
    March 17, 2020 11:59 am

    How does planting a vegetable patch equate to rewilding. I think she is confused.

    • HotScot permalink
      March 17, 2020 12:03 pm

      Urbanit’s think going outdoors is ‘rewilding’. Taking the dog for a walk is an ‘outdoor pursuit’ as far as they’re concerned.

      But suggest putting a wind turbine near their house and they would be up in arms. I mean, that’s what the countryside is for.

    • Ian Magness permalink
      March 17, 2020 12:10 pm

      Absolutely Tom.
      Furthermore, she:
      1) “takes her two youngest daughters on an 450-mile round trip from their home in Sheffield to an organic farm in South Wales”. They cycle presumably? Nothing nearer?
      2) buys multiple large plastic water containers (spot-on for re-wilding); and
      3) wears clothes made from petrochemicals.
      Hmmm, no ignorance or hypocrisy there then.

  7. HotScot permalink
    March 17, 2020 11:59 am

    BBC staff are the cranks. This bird is quite normal compared to that lot!

  8. Tony Budd permalink
    March 17, 2020 12:01 pm

    But I thought COVID-19 had halted Climate Change: nobody’s flying, cruising, driving anywhere, or having mass Extinction rallies, so our carbon footprint must be much lower. Isn’t that so, Greta?

    • Broadlands permalink
      March 17, 2020 1:57 pm

      Indeed! The COVID-19 attack is rapidly lowering carbon emissions. It is, in essence, a global rehearsal for what the ‘green’ leadership insists we do to reach their net-zero goal. She (and those others) should be excited that their demand is now in progress. Of course, the CO2 already emitted is still awaiting CCS geological storage in impossibly large amounts.

    • March 18, 2020 8:52 am

      Re. carbon footprints, COP 26 is looking unlikely this year.
      https://www.thegwpf.com/un-climate-summit-under-threat-because-of-coronavirus/

    • Russ Wood permalink
      March 18, 2020 3:32 pm

      There’s an ‘orrible story on the ‘Net: https://underdogsbiteupwards.wordpress.com/2014/12/26/for-whom-the-bells-jingle/
      of a Christmas in a world where the Greenies have had their way. Oddly enough, I recently re-read Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle’s book “Fallen Angels”. This is based in such a ‘Greenie’ world, but in that universe, the lack of industry has triggered a new Ice Age.
      So, who’s gonna win? Little Ice Age or Greta’s Heat Death? Place your bets, folks!

  9. TinyCO2 permalink
    March 17, 2020 12:08 pm

    Does she think that in extremis, she’d be able to hold into her veggies?

  10. Tim. permalink
    March 17, 2020 12:09 pm

    She’d look good in red hood & cloak with her face whitened. What, no cows or pigs in the garden? Wilding it will not produce a lot of food. We don’t get a lot of eating out of the scarlet pimpernel or bluebells for that matter that grow in our garden. The apples & potatoes are good, though.

  11. AaronH permalink
    March 17, 2020 12:26 pm

    Tree spinach is a tender perennial unlikely to survive in Sheffield, and its leaves are poisonous until boiled. Scarlet pimpernel is a toxic weed, avoided by grazing animals! She obviously hasn’t learnt much!

  12. JimW permalink
    March 17, 2020 12:37 pm

    She is a sad, slightly loopy person. There seem to be millions like her across much of western societies. I think we have created a world which is bereft of meaning for millions. They are well fed enough and have enough money not to have to worry too much about normal survival. But their lives have no purpose. So they fret, they get very bored and they lack drive because our education and welfare systems have destroyed it.
    No religion, so they latch onto anything to give them some self worth, even if its barmy.
    But there are literally millions of people like this. They are ‘sheeple’. They can be led, they want to be led.
    Hence ‘climate change’ supporters, and also it explains to some extent the unquestioning support for draconian measures to ‘contain’ a virus.

    • Vernon Warner permalink
      March 17, 2020 1:17 pm

      Quite agree. G K Chesterton said ‘ When men choose not to be believe in God, they don’t thereafter believe in nothing but believe in anything’

  13. Ian Phillips permalink
    March 17, 2020 12:38 pm

    What caught my attention, in the BBC news story, was showing “Michael Mann” joining in the debate, trying to defuse the panic and sound like a normal balanced human being….remember them?
    He looked awfully like Michael Mann, the co-author of the hockey stick graph which set this whole charade going in the first place. Has he now seen the light?
    Or am I seeing things?

    • March 17, 2020 2:08 pm

      It’s ironic that both Mann and Allen, major causes of this sort of hysteria, are now trying to walk away from it.

      • JCalvertN permalink
        March 18, 2020 8:56 pm

        They sowed the wind.
        And now . . . “Holy frack Bats Mann, I think I see a whirlwind over there!”

  14. deejaym permalink
    March 17, 2020 12:39 pm

    Bendell, a professor in sustainable leadership at the University of Cumbria………..

    & these people get exposure from the national broadcaster….

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      March 17, 2020 7:11 pm

      Worse, thse people get money from the taxpayer for their absurd coure at their absurd university. And the taxpayer then picks up the debt their students take on to “study” on this course.

  15. Harry Passfield permalink
    March 17, 2020 12:53 pm

    Maybe BBC should resurrect their 1975-77 series called, ‘Survivors’. The plot:
    “An unknown virus pandemic kills more than 90% of the world’s population. Those immune must strive to survive and overcome the difficulties of this new world order, hoping that the virus will not mutate”
    /s

    • JBW permalink
      March 17, 2020 1:17 pm

      Or read John Wyndhams ‘Day of the triffids’ or Earth Abides
      by George R. Stewart.

    • ThinkingScientist permalink
      March 17, 2020 1:48 pm

      Er….the BBC did resurrect it. 2008 – 2010.

  16. David Allan permalink
    March 17, 2020 12:57 pm

    Dopey people like her represent the biggest danger to society.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      March 17, 2020 1:08 pm

      Agreed given that they have the same voting rights as normal people.

    • Mad Mike permalink
      March 17, 2020 2:51 pm

      Its not people like her that are the greatest danger to our society, its the people that give them publicity.

  17. Gerry, England permalink
    March 17, 2020 1:22 pm

    Rewilding, my neighbour supports that but can’t see the problems. Ask the Dutch how their rewilding project went that involved trying to hide or remove the starved carcasses before the trains came past. Featured in the Daily Mail where deer, horses and cattle were left to roam without any thought for controlling numbers in relation to the food supply. Since human culling is thought bad they look to the missing food chain predators such as wolves. But letting wolves loose in our current countryside is a far cry from when they were last in Britain.

    With wild boar over-running the Forest of Dean wolves are mentioned but with no thought to what would happen to the local livestock farms when they find calves and lambs much easy to take than wild boars. Aerial raptors are just as bad. They bemoan the loss of skylarks and other small birds but ignore the raptors that require 800lbs of meat per year. Think of that in terms of numbers of small birds.

    Fans will point to the Knepp Estate in East Sussex as a rewilding success on land that was marginal for main agricultural production. East Sussex is very accessible from London and so they get plenty of visitors to glamp their at a few hundred quid a night which certainly helps them turn a profit on the estate but it is not something everyone could make work.

    • JBW permalink
      March 18, 2020 3:00 pm

      Interesting that you mention Knepp. Part of the reason for the project was that the original farm as such was not really sustainable financially. Then along comes Horsham District Council and the developers who want to build a large housing development just up the road.

  18. Stonyground permalink
    March 17, 2020 1:32 pm

    My garden rewilded itself without my help. With retirement imminent I’m hoping to unwild it a bit in the near future.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      March 18, 2020 5:33 pm

      Cutting only the grass that is necessary in my garden allowed me to see a barn owl come down and hover about it hunting for prey. Bloody marvellous. In the past there has been a flock of goldfinches I lost count at 20 so many were there.

  19. NeverReady permalink
    March 17, 2020 1:43 pm

    Does that mean if we kill them we’ll really just be saving the planet?

  20. Old Grumpy permalink
    March 17, 2020 2:22 pm

    Judging by that new greenhouse, she is serious about nothing lasting more than 5-10 years.

  21. TimRules permalink
    March 17, 2020 2:46 pm

    Yet another doomsday cult …

  22. March 17, 2020 2:51 pm

    The constant drip, drip, over so many years gets through eventually. The heightened hysteria began back in 2005, under Tony Blair and has multiplied under successive governments since.:

    January 24, 2005 Independent; “Climate Change: Countdown to Global Catastrophe”,
    by Michael McCarthy

    “The global warming danger threshold for the world is clearly marked for the first time in an international report to be published tomorrow – and the bad news is, the world has nearly
    reached it already.

    The countdown to climate-change catastrophe is spelt out by a task force of senior politicians, business leaders and academics from around the world – and it is remarkably brief. In as little as 10 years, or even less, their report indicates, the point of no return with global warming may have been reached.

    The report, Meeting The Climate Challenge, is aimed at policymakers in every country, from national leaders down. It has been timed to coincide with Tony Blair’s promised efforts to advance climate change policy in 2005 as chairman of both the G8 group of rich countries and the European Union.

    And it breaks new ground by putting a figure – for the first time in such a high-level document – on the danger point of global warming, that is, the temperature rise beyond which the world would be irretrievably committed to disastrous changes.

    The report says this point will be two degrees centigrade above the average world temperature prevailing in 1750 before the industrial revolution, when human activities – mainly the production of waste gases such as carbon dioxide (CO2), which retain the sun’s heat in the atmosphere – first started to affect the climate.”

    Note how 1750 quietly became 1850 for the same temperature increase, in 2005, 0.8C. So 25.5 decades became 15.5 decades and now we are told that anthropogenic CO2 had no effect before 1880, so now it’s 14 decades for 1.1C and the new “limit” is 1.5C, leaving just 0.4C to go!. Global warming really has accelerated…

    • jack broughton permalink
      March 18, 2020 8:16 pm

      I also noticed on Chaamamal’s posts that the critical temperature rise for Armageddon has reduced with each IPCC report; as the projected temperature rise is looking less each year.

  23. Stacey permalink
    March 17, 2020 3:32 pm

    It seems that we should all be more worried about civilization being taken out by some small microbes than climate change at this point!

  24. March 17, 2020 3:33 pm

    After last years locust invasion of East Africa, the bush fires in Australia and the floods in England, we now have a worldwide plague! If anything, this is bringing people closer together as volunteer groups spring out of nowhere to help out.

    Looks like the Greta Broadcasting Corporation are going to be disappointed – yet again.

  25. Phillip Bratby permalink
    March 17, 2020 4:11 pm

    The lesson from this is that are are plenty of gullible idiots about (Green Party and Extinction Rebellion)

  26. March 17, 2020 4:33 pm

    The most frightening aspect of this whole global warming fiasco is the general ignorance of the public about science! If people believe that an atmospheric concentration increase of CO2 from 0.028% to 0.041% over 300 years constitutes an ‘climate emergency or climate ‘crisis’.I would suggest that it has nothing to do with climate, it is an educational emergency or an educational crisis.

    • Broadlands permalink
      March 17, 2020 5:24 pm

      You needed to add that after the 45% increase in atmospheric CO2 the global mean temperature anomaly is only plus 0.8°C (~6%). A global educational failure?

  27. Chaswarnertoo permalink
    March 17, 2020 5:13 pm

    You can’t fix stupid.

  28. kathy marquard permalink
    March 17, 2020 6:24 pm

    well, good thing we have already lived through the end of the world several times in our lives. what’s one more?

  29. Richard permalink
    March 17, 2020 8:39 pm

    The climate apocalypse element is (of course) utter rubbish. But, the spending time outdoors and teaching her children where proper food comes from is not – in fact I would say it’s good (if not great) parenting. I loved this sort of things as a youngster. The difference is my parents didn’t fill my head full of ‘world ending’ nonsense alongside it.

  30. Nordisch geo-climber permalink
    March 18, 2020 10:59 am

    6 degrees here (UK Lake District). March 18th – seems like very cold weather for the time of year. 40 years ago I would have expected much warmer weather by now.

  31. March 18, 2020 10:59 am

    From 2004:
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver

    “Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters.

    A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.

    The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents.

    The findings will prove humiliating to the Bush administration, which has repeatedly denied that climate change even exists.”

    Notice how they are presented as “findings” rather than computer simulations. Just the same as The IPCC reports.

  32. Stephen Skinner permalink
    March 18, 2020 11:19 pm

    Pol Pot never acknowledged he was wrong and look at what he ‘acheived’ with his ‘Year Zero’. Why would we expect any of the corrent environemental zealots to come to their senses?

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