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Meet the people who could change the way we live

May 17, 2020

By Paul Homewood

 

The BBC has just broadcast this video with the thoughts of four members of the Climate Assembly:

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/science-environment-52685718/meet-the-people-who-could-change-the-way-we-live 

 

It emphatically shows not only how devoid of ideas they all are, but also how none of them have the slightest idea of what really is involved in getting to Net Zero.

I have summarised their conversations:

 

Girl 1 – I think we should buy British where possible.

Buy quality clothes that last longer.

Work from home if possible.

Man 1 – Eat less meat and concentrate on better cuts – (what does he suggest butchers do with the rest?)

Girl 2 – I have a Ford Mustang, which I will not give up.

Turn central heating down and make kids wear jumpers.

Man 4 – I am thinking about an EV, but I live in a flat so I cannot charge it up.

 

And that’s just about it!!

Nowhere is there any mention that the UK only emits 1% of the world’s CO2, and that the rest of the world is busy increasing emissions, at least until this year. They obviously must have been brainwashed by the lies of their indoctrinators, such as Joanna Haigh, who assured them that China was busy shutting down its coal power plants.

Nowhere is there any understanding that fiddling around the edges, as this lot is proposing, will not make the slightest difference.

Nowhere is there any recognition that to get to Net Zero will make our current lifestyles unrecognisable.

Forget about new clothes of any description. Forget about any kind of private transport. Forget about heating your house at all. Forget about any imported goods whatsoever. And be prepared to eat whatever food you can get your hands on, meat or not.

This is the stark reality of what faces our descendants in 2050.

The clip I have copied comes at the end of the programme:

And it’s really important that the government hears the voice of the people.

Yes, it is important. But that voice won’t be heard from a panel of 110 volunteers who have been brainwashed to applaud whatever the government has tells them.

53 Comments
  1. Bertie permalink
    May 17, 2020 11:03 pm

    I;d say they were brainwashed, except that there appears to be no evidence of any intelligence.

    • May 18, 2020 1:37 pm

      They sound to be totally illiterate to me, No Carbon no Planet, dream on!¬

  2. Pancho Plail permalink
    May 17, 2020 11:40 pm

    I managed a full 10 seconds. Apart from the sheer inanity of the stable lass, the presenter really irritated when she said that the girl had had an invite. For …. sake, BBC, it’s an invitation.

    • HotScot permalink
      May 18, 2020 1:17 am

      Pancho Plail

      At last, a fellow traveller.

      I despise the misuse of the term ‘invitation’.

      I also despise the misuse of the ‘text’ – He text me………..NO! He Texted me!

      ‘Forgot’ your password? No I have effing ‘Forgotten’ my password!

      I could fill this entire post with irritations of the unnecessary, ignorant and lazy abuse of the English language.

      And I’m a Jock!

      • iain reid permalink
        May 18, 2020 7:29 am

        HotScot

        I refuse to accept nouns being turned into verbs. :- He sent me a text?

      • May 18, 2020 9:33 am

        @ iain

        If you’ve ever elbowed a friend in the ribs, you have Shakespeare to thank for turning a noun into a verb.

      • Stonyground permalink
        May 18, 2020 9:38 am

        Will you do it for free Hotscot?

      • Mike Jackson permalink
        May 18, 2020 11:56 am

        HotScot — the most perfect English is spoken in Inverness, or so I’m told! Stop apologising; I was educated in Scotland — in the days when that sentence meant something and I agree with every word.

        Well, almost. Turning nouns into verbs has a long and honourable history as Jit has just pointed out. But there are rules; if you are going “to text” then the past tense is “texted”. “Forgot your password” — no. But “(Did you) forget your password” — OK. “Invite” is American and therefore not permissible.

        (Pedants of the world, unite! Please note that comma is important!)

        As for the article — comment is superfluous but we are reaching a point where if we don’t start seriously winning the argument then we lose by default. The argument will be won eventually but if we lose it now it will be two generations at least before the fightback gains any traction. Thank heaven for Paul and Anthony Watts (and a few others) but they can’t do it on their own and it’s still,”one brick at a time”.

      • ianprsy permalink
        May 18, 2020 12:22 pm

        The latest one I heard was somebody “onboarded”, a bit like Olympians “medalling”. Public sector, naturally.

      • Pancho Plail permalink
        May 18, 2020 12:32 pm

        I’m glad you bought that up.

  3. Robert Christopher permalink
    May 18, 2020 12:02 am

    So, no one mentioned the document, Absolute Zero? 🙂

  4. Jonathan Scott permalink
    May 18, 2020 12:08 am

    Simple question. There is a claimed issue that the only way to know if it is real…or not is via scientific study. In the bad old world of science the burden of proof was on those making claims not on those challenging them but my, my how money changes rules! In this case, 1. It must be established first that there actually is a problem as claimed before there is any need to consider what to do about it. 2. The last people on this planet who can do anything except collectively contemplate navel fluff and fall prey to undue influence by groups with agendas are a sample of Joe and Josephine Public which is exactly what we have got. Seems like a plan is being enacted and the green slime thrive in wooliness. They hate science based facts so this is the perfect forum for them to coerce and manipulate to get the answer they want.

  5. May 18, 2020 1:55 am

    A really great comment. In real science the hypothesis to be proven is the alternate hypothesis and its negation is the null hypothesis that must be rejected by the data to propose the validity of the alternate hypothesis. But in climate science, the hypothesis to be proven is the null hypothesis and it is up to the stupid and ungodly deniers to prove it wrong. The sad part of the story, and the reason we are in the mess that we are in, is that the deniers fell for it and walked into that trap.

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/02/03/hidden-hand/

  6. b dussan permalink
    May 18, 2020 2:20 am

    Where’s the thinking about how to deal with overpopulation?….

    • tom0mason permalink
      May 18, 2020 7:18 am

      What overpopulation?
      It is a myth put about by Malthusians to justify killing people and controlling all others.

      Nature is in control and allows the human population to expand. When nature has had enough of us populations will contract to the point we WILL become extinct.

      • Mike Jackson permalink
        May 18, 2020 12:33 pm

        The UN estimates a 10.5-11 billion population by mid-century at which point it stabilises with a decline from the beginning of the 22nd century. Try reading Hans Rosling’s ‘Factfulness’ for the reasoning behind this.

        The Malthusians persistently get it wrong because the genuine ones are too dim to see beyond their own “stands to reason, dunnit?!” simple-mindedness and the fake ones (and their climate allies) are control freaks.

        The surest way to reduce the birth rate — as has been proved time and time and time again over centuries — is to increase wealth. Simply handing out contraceptives doesn’t work. If you are trying to scratch a living on poor soil and with nothing except your bare hands and a few primitive tools and half your kids are likely to die before they reach puberty then giving birth to as many pairs of hands as possible makes perfect economic sense.

        Once you can afford a tractor and a decent electricity supply (assuming the eco-warriors allow you such things) then you are in a position to create a surplus from your crop using less labour and you suddenly also create that wonderful human asset — spare time! And while sex is still fun there are more things to do than struggle to bring up a family, half of whom you no longer “need”! And so on. It really is quite simple, in theory at any rate.

        (As for “overcrowding”, I have made the point before that we could give the entire population of the world one-fifth of an acre in Australia and still have Tasmania and the rest of the planet left over. We are incredibly ignorant about anything that involves size.)

      • b dussan permalink
        May 20, 2020 1:53 am

        In other words, why think about overpopulation if Nature “will take care of it”?

      • b dussan permalink
        May 20, 2020 2:11 am

        Mike Jackson, lots of words, but not about what population does to earth: we humans waste natural resources while polluting our biosphere with toxic substances (from use of fossil fuels {CO2 is neither toxic not pollutant} and a myriad of manufacturing processes). And of course, the more humans the more pollution.
        By the way, there are plenty of affluent people with too large families (say more than 4). Did you forget that unfortunately religions have a tendency to promoting large families?
        As to your “idea” of cramming everybody in Australia, well I am at a “loss for words”.

      • tom0mason permalink
        May 20, 2020 8:32 am

        b. dussan,
        You say “lots of words, but not about what population does to earth: we humans waste natural resources while polluting our biosphere with toxic substances (from use of fossil fuels {CO2 is neither toxic not pollutant} and a myriad of manufacturing processes). “
        Please define ‘waste’ in this context. Please link to some evidence for your definition.
        IMO ‘waste’ is just a resource in the wrong place at the wrong time.

        You also say “And of course, the more humans the more pollution.” Is that really true? Is there really more pollution now than say during any period over the last 200 years? The smogs of the previous age were not as bad as those today? Or that in past times the disposal of sewerage was very poor, and it is worse now? I think not! Dumping of industrial effluent has not been curtailed in most Westernized industrial nations, and even to some extent in what was the old Soviet Union. And as India, China and all the rest gear-up industrially do you not think they too will clean-up their act?

      • b dussan permalink
        May 23, 2020 7:36 pm

        Waste like throwing away things without a valid reason, like driving a vehicle/motorcycle aimlessly, like driving instead of walking (say a few blocks), like abusing heating (hi temps) or cooling (low temps) and opening windows and doors unnecessarily, like buying new stuff of little or no use, like failing to properly recycle. IMO these are not just resources in the wrong place at the wrong time.
        More humans and more pollution is just a matter of simple quantification on a global scale. Your examples of smog (localized then, and much less except in China and India) and raw sewage (most likely it is much worse at the present time): you appear to have forgotten about the ongoing pollution of the rivers, lakes, oceans and arable land: remember “Silent Spring”? You are right about industrial dumping effluents: for the most part it is not curtailed, and most likely the dumping will continue to grow as the population grows….
        I suggest that you take a look at: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=planet+of+the+humans+michael+moore+youtube&&view=detail&mid=88AB038608B27A2A2FB888AB038608B27A2A2FB8&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dplanet%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bhumans%2Bmichael%2Bmoore%2Byoutube%26%26FORM%3DVDVVXX

    • grammarschoolman permalink
      May 18, 2020 7:46 am

      Presumably, as part of this, the lower orders will all starve to death, so that’ll kill two birds (as it were) with one stone.

      • b dussan permalink
        May 20, 2020 1:48 am

        so much for “thinking”…..

  7. Bertie permalink
    May 18, 2020 7:13 am

    Bloody girl doesn’t even know how to groom a horse properly!

  8. Chaswarnertoo permalink
    May 18, 2020 7:22 am

    Oh, goody. Morons telling us what to do…

    • May 18, 2020 9:28 am

      Not morons. Average people. But who wants average people to decide things? Should we have a people’s assembly to determine the organisation of our armed forces? Maybe they could write the next Education Bill?

      If we left our future to average people, we would still be ploughing the fields using Suffolk Punches.

      This is not their fault, it is the fault of the moron politicians (I now use the term “moron” because it is appropriate) who set the whole damn thing up. The only legitimate reasons I can think of for setting up such a scheme, other than that its organisers are morons, are as follows:

      i) This is a “give them enough rope and they’ll hang themselves” ploy (the environmental agitators, i.e.). (When the assembly returns with stupid and impossible ideas.)

      ii) It’s a way of drawing a few of the Fat Green Crocodile’s teeth for a few months. (Cheaper than having more protests.)

      or

      iii) It’s based on a calculation that, left to themselves, the people’s assembly will come up with half-assed measures that won’t cost the Earth but won’t have any effect on CO2 (“I’m keeping my Mustang”). (Will the document instead be written by people outside the assembly?)

      • JBW permalink
        May 19, 2020 3:53 pm

        Reminds me of the day when we let a family onto our 747 flight deck, enroute to the US. Mum, “My son wants to be a pilot”. “Great”, say I, “What qualifications has he”. Mum “Non he failed his GCSE’s – but that shouldn’t matter – they should let anyone do the job”. True story!

  9. tom0mason permalink
    May 18, 2020 7:28 am

    Where is the voice of all those people currently under-employed and unemployed? Where is the voice of the scientifically literate, or those who wish for a proper free market?
    Should they also be represented?
    How many of these people started life with times when they went to a cold bed hungry?

  10. Geoff B permalink
    May 18, 2020 8:25 am

    i did watch the live stream from the first day of the climate assembly meeting…the alleged experts were so biased and distorted the facts to present a worse case scenario and gave the impression that the fix was just to plant lots of trees and stop using fossil fuels and hydrocarbons and we would all live happily ever after. No mention of costs, inconvenience and the fact that if the UK stopped producing any carbon dioxide, it would not make the slightest difference. Madness any one on this forum could have demolished the arguments of just about every so called expert as well as pointing out that Joanna Haigh (retired) and Bob Ward are employed by the Grantham Trust at Imperial College, financed by Jeremy Grantham who is making money from planting trees (green carbon certificates which he trades to Apple and Google so they claim 100% green) and chopping them down for wood pellets, their salary depends on spouting the decarbonise message, hardly unbiased, in fact the BBC always use these two to reinforce their climate change doom reports.

  11. May 18, 2020 8:26 am

    Just a waste of the licence payers money

    • tom0mason permalink
      May 18, 2020 10:12 am

      Not completely wasted, they are fulfilling their agenda …

      • dennisambler permalink
        May 18, 2020 12:40 pm

        These assemblies were one of XR’s demands, a long term project from Gail Bradbrooke.

  12. PaulM permalink
    May 18, 2020 8:33 am

    I hate the term “Up for Grabs” it should surely be “To be won”

  13. Phoenix44 permalink
    May 18, 2020 9:00 am

    Amazing that it’s the “voice of the people” when the people say stuff the BBC agrees with but “dangerous populism” when the people say things the BBC doesn’t agree with, like Brexit or reducing immigration. They really are the most childish bunch of….

  14. May 18, 2020 9:07 am

    We always knew that this so-called “People’s Assembly” would end up being hand-picked and filtered numb-skull eco-loons. If they were asked I seriously wonder how many of them have even heard of Not A Lot of People Know That or Watts Up With That or the GWPF, etc?

  15. May 18, 2020 9:32 am

    If their role is to legitimise government stupidity, they seem to be on course.

  16. Joe Public permalink
    May 18, 2020 10:13 am

    “Girl 1 – I think we should buy British where possible.”

    Great to learn that Auntie gave airtime to a fracking supporter! (Am I understanding this game correctly?)

    • tom0mason permalink
      May 18, 2020 1:14 pm

      “Girl 1 – I think we should buy British where possible.”
      Fat chance…
      The UK’s percentage global manufacturing is 2%, and that supplies just 10% of the national requirement of manufactured goods (probably lower since these figures were compiled in 2015.)
      From https://www.brookings.edu/research/global-manufacturing-scorecard-how-the-us-compares-to-18-other-nations/

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      May 18, 2020 8:43 pm

      Buy British?? Not while Bezos is going for trillionaire status. I am trying hard not to buy from China but Amazon do not tell you (clearly) the source of goods.

  17. May 18, 2020 10:40 am

    Reblogged this on Wolsten and commented:
    At some point the stark reality of what a net zero lifestyle would look like may sink in but I strongly suspect it would be too late by then, and without doubt the poor will be hit the hardest.

    • Broadlands permalink
      May 18, 2020 3:36 pm

      And none of them even understands the difference between zero and net-zero. But, it doesn’t matter. There is no way to get even halfway to zero, never mind on to net-zero….negative emissions.

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        May 18, 2020 8:38 pm

        I think I have a handle on what is ‘Net-zero’ (carbon-trading; CCS, etc) rather than total shutdown, but I feel I’m missing something here, Broadlands. Can you enlighten me? Many thanks.

    • Russ Wood permalink
      May 20, 2020 3:10 pm

      Well, the ‘lockdown’ is a good lab-test of the zero principle! And, you’re right! It DOES hit the poorest the hardest. In Baragwanath, Johannesburg’s biggest hospital, they are already seeing malnourished (i.e. starving) children!

  18. Stonyground permalink
    May 18, 2020 12:16 pm

    Presumably that Mustang could be used to grow tomatoes once she isn’t allowed to drive it.

    • dennisambler permalink
      May 18, 2020 12:38 pm

      Mustang Sally…

    • May 18, 2020 2:11 pm

      Of course, it might be a horse!!

      • StephenP permalink
        May 18, 2020 5:30 pm

        Sorry, she will have to get rid of the horse as it produces about 20kg methane per year.

  19. dennisambler permalink
    May 18, 2020 12:37 pm

    “and concentrate on better cuts”? Pork Belly is on trend in all the cookery programmes!

    • roger. permalink
      May 18, 2020 10:48 pm

      Pork belly for the hoi poloi perhaps, but it’s pork barrels for upper classes all the way.
      This scam will never end whilst the Lords and Commons control parliament. The medieval robber barons never went away, just morphed like Dr Who through the time zones, rapacious as ever.

  20. MrGrimNasty permalink
    May 18, 2020 3:29 pm

    True this time, but even so, the prize for crass hypocrisy goes to climate shill:-

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-brian-cox-minister-follow-science-comments-a9520041.html

  21. CheshireRed permalink
    May 18, 2020 4:37 pm

    The total recklessness of the governments Net Zero policy requires the most robust pushback ever.

    I suggest a ‘Say No to Net Zero’ campaign is started asap.

    The BBC won’t offer any sceptical opinions or allow sceptics to be heard, so maybe it’s time WE forced our own narrative on government and on the BBC?

    If we don’t try then we can’t complain when Net Zero nonsense is heaped on us.

    ‘Say NO to Net Zero’

    • Stuart Brown permalink
      May 18, 2020 5:04 pm

      Remember this?

      https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300316

      I know we all got distracted a bit, but this still hasn’t got 2/3 of the way there 😦

      • CheshireRed permalink
        May 18, 2020 5:14 pm

        Yeah there’s no doubt the public has been brainwashed into subservience. That’s why there should be a massive concerted campaign, to force this onto the news agenda.

        It won’t do it by accident. It needs money and organisation.

    • CheshireRed permalink
      May 18, 2020 5:11 pm

      ALL websites – about 15 or 16 covering all domains, are available for both ‘saynotonetzero’ and ‘notonetzero’.

      Cost isn’t prohibitive if there’s a big campaign on the back of it. Something has to be done before Boris and the ‘Conservative’ party wreck this country.

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