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Without fossil fuels, the Wuhan Flu would have us beat, Greta

May 17, 2020

By Paul Homewood

h/t Messenger


Quite ludicrously, Greta Thunberg was invited onto a CNN Town Hall panel last week to discuss the coronavirus crisis.

Maybe she should have been asked to explain how we would be tackling the problem without fossil fuels, as Australian MP Craig Kelly points out:


  1. MrGrimNasty permalink
    May 17, 2020 11:16 am

    Yep, I made a list of similar thoughts in a comment somewhere else on here! The greens are delusional, dangerously stupid.

    A couple of links that came up on GWPF twitter.

    You get 2 free looks so may be £££££:-

    And not one for Jo Nova!

  2. May 17, 2020 11:29 am

    The BBC has been pushing the campaign to ban single-use plastic for well over a year. Strangely the BBC has gone completely silent on the billions of items of PPE made of single-use plastic. I wonder why?

    I have noticed, since starting to do online shopping for groceries, that the supermarkets must be using millions more items of single-use plastic to dispatch the groceries.

    I would also mention that all the deliveries have arrived in diesel-powered vans; not a single EV in sight. We would all be dead by now without those pesky fossil fuels.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      May 17, 2020 12:25 pm

      Catching up on Secrets of the supermarkets they compared the cost of bags of fruit and veg with loose produce. Not surprising if you think about it, most loose stuff was more expensive. It will take greater resource to put out single apples where you can’t just tip them out than bags or trays. Add to that as I bought some broccoli wrapped in plastic, you need somewhere for the barcode. French supermarkets have points where you take your loose produce – now placed in a plastic bag – and print off a label with a barcode. Don’t see that here. And in these strange times I feel that with people queued outside it is better to shop quickly so bagged items rule.

      Milk & More were bought by the Germans of Mueller and they have said they are going to use battery vans but not sure it that is true. They use paper bags for non milk items having at first gone to bags with no handles which I assume avoided the charge as not being carrier bags.

      • Stonyground permalink
        May 17, 2020 12:34 pm

        “French supermarkets have points where you take your loose produce – now placed in a plastic bag – and print off a label with a barcode. Don’t see that here.”

        They have them at Asda.

      • May 17, 2020 12:39 pm

        Tesco too

      • Mad Mike permalink
        May 17, 2020 1:12 pm

        We ordered some shopping on line for the first time recently. I couldn’t believe how it was delivered. The bill came to about £60, several item were substitutes for what we had ordered and had to be returned to the driver and all the items were packed in to 12 plastic bags. It was a Waitrose delivery and, if this is a normal experience, we shan’t be shopping on line again.

        CC is one thing but the use of all that plastic is definitely a no-no for us.

      • Pancho Plail permalink
        May 17, 2020 1:22 pm

        Given the questionable standards of hygiene of some members of the public, the only things I get that aren’t prepacked already come in their own disposable packaging like citrus, bananas and nuts.

      • Devoncamel permalink
        May 17, 2020 1:27 pm

        Re-usable plastic mesh bags are on sale at my local Sainsbury’s for 30p. Waitrose bags are degradable and very useful for your food waste caddy.

      • May 17, 2020 9:24 pm

        A couple of years ago when my wife was away for an extended spell, I tried ordering groceries online, for the first time, from Asda – never again! So many items were substituted for things I would never eat and ended up giving most of them away. All the items I ordered appeared to be in stock on the web page – but evidently not in my local store.

  3. cajwbroomhill permalink
    May 17, 2020 12:13 pm

    She should be treated like a normal, naughlty child and be sent up to her bedroom with bread and water for supper and a hot bottom!

    • Mad Mike permalink
      May 17, 2020 1:07 pm

      Are you still in communication with your children?

      • cajwbroomhill permalink
        May 17, 2020 1:20 pm

        Born in 1963,65,80and 82, they have all done extremely well, are University graduates and , amazingly , we are are still on goodterms, indeed the best of!
        Shows again how important and effective is a good upbringing.
        Unfortunately. however, we are not able to to exploit them for ££££s, unlike Greta T’s parents, nor do they impress silly politicos and the UN.
        They are not climate catastrophists.

  4. Broadlands permalink
    May 17, 2020 3:00 pm

    And try to manufacture all that and then get it all to the hospitals with PV vehicles. They cannot even replant vegetation for biofuel ethanol without carbon fuels. And biofuels are 90% fossil fuel anyhow. Go figure?

    • Mack permalink
      May 17, 2020 10:12 pm

      Slightly O/T but I’ve noticed that biofuel demand in the States has plummeted as the economy has tanked. There’s thousands of farmers out there who rely totally on the their crops going for biofuel. Without biofuel demand, they’re going to be toast by harvest time. It’s a tad late for them to diversify now without very deep pockets. A situation undoubtedly mirrored in a fair few developing countries who have sold their souls to the green wet dream. Interesting times.

  5. MrGrimNasty permalink
    May 17, 2020 4:05 pm

    Another good article.

    Of course it is obvious the government is just trying to find reasons/metrics to extricate us from the lockdown without admitting it was a very stupid error in the first place.

  6. Otto permalink
    May 17, 2020 5:56 pm

    Without fossil fuels would there not be world wide spread due to no aircraft? Contained in China would have been better. Travellers from there would have died en route back to Europe. (Fleas travel but these viruses don’t hop do they?)

  7. Jonathan Scott permalink
    May 17, 2020 6:21 pm

    She is being promoted by Big Climate. They HAVE to keep her in the publish eye because as they know the public has a very short memory. She has no contribution to make so her place on the panel was bought one way or another! What can she say? She has deliberately made herself ignorant by removing herself from education. How can she tell what is said is right or wrong or at least how to express an opinion on what is a scientific subject without a scientific education? Answer, she can’t so as I said she is being forcibly grandstanded by those with so much money invested in the Climate Circus.

    • martinbrumby permalink
      May 18, 2020 8:11 am

      Like all of GangGreen, she FEELS the truth. So much better than having to learn anything.

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