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City of Sydney Goes Renewable!

July 2, 2020
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By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Joe Public

 

Clover Moore, the Lord Mayor of the City of Sydney, NSW has announced

"As of today, the City of Sydney is powered by 100% renewable electricity.” 

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https://twitter.com/CloverMoore/status/1278076256773222402

 

WOW!!

 

Except for the fact that she was lying through her teeth, as one critic inconveniently pointed out:

 

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https://twitter.com/yestiseye/status/1278109196169306113

 

This is the current position:

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 https://opennem.org.au/energy/nsw1/

37 Comments
  1. NeilC permalink
    July 2, 2020 10:58 am

    Well well, a politician telling porkies, who’d have thought it.

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      July 2, 2020 2:28 pm

      Let’s be fair, it’s 50/50 if a politician is telling porkies or just thick as pig ****.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        July 3, 2020 10:22 am

        In Boris’s case it is both.

  2. OldCynic permalink
    July 2, 2020 11:07 am

    Yeah, yeah… What she means is that Sydney Council is paying a premium for its electricity, equivalent to buying all their electricity as if it were generated by renewables, leaving the non-renewable power for the rest of us, who pay the standard price and nominally receive coal-generated electricity. ie nothing new. ACT makes the same claim and I’d expect other state/city virtue-signallers to do the same

    However what has always intrigued me is whether anyone checks up on how much “renewable” power the retailers sell, and how much they actually purchase. Is it the responsibility of the financial auditors? Dunno, do you?

    Taking it back one stage further, is anyone checking that the “green generation” certificates etc that generators sell are sold only to one customer, not several? eg the company sells them to an Australian purchaser, and a New Zealand purchaser, and a Croatian purchaser… etc

    I don’t know. Maybe someone better-read than me can tell us.

    • Graeme No.3 permalink
      July 2, 2020 12:00 pm

      OldCynic:
      Buying 100% “renewable” electricity frees you (or your retailer) from buying the RET Certificates (which would add to the cost). The producer can then sell them for extra money.

      The ACT ‘buys’ wind generation from S.A. and Vic. without the Certificates and pays a fixed price. How that electricity gets to Canberra is another question, as it has much distance to travel (losses in the line), no actual line, and there is no guarantee that those wind farms are working at the time. In practice Canberra relies on black coal fired generation from N.S.W. (and possibly some brown coal fired from Vic.) as this is the only connection they have. It would seem that the City of Sydney is using the same scam.

      As far as I know Australian Certificates are only saleable in Australia. All the emphasis for years has been on locals buying from overseas merchant bankers and friendly Mafia contacts.

      The problem for Canberra and Sydney is that in recent years the number of Certificates for sale has risen substantially, and “official” demand has dropped as lots of householders have installed rooftop panels. The result has been a drop in demand & price for electricity, leaving Canberra (and Sydney?) out of pocket. I think Shakespear said something about hoisting petards.

    • Broadlands permalink
      July 2, 2020 2:43 pm

      OldCynic… Checking up? I thought that Michael Moore’s people did that and it was embarrassing for the greenies so they took the film down. Made it all go away.

  3. Harry Passfield permalink
    July 2, 2020 11:31 am

    She looks more like a ‘Lady Mayoress’ to me. But then, I’ve always preferred the old ways.

    • Bertie permalink
      July 2, 2020 1:54 pm

      Well said – except that she ain’t no lady!

  4. Bloke no longer down the pub permalink
    July 2, 2020 11:32 am

    As of today, the city of Sydney is powered by 100% more expensive power. There, fixed it for her.

  5. It doesn't add up... permalink
    July 2, 2020 12:23 pm

    I’m sure the cow meant to say “Where’s the beef? We’re in green clover! More please.”

    Fictional accounting seems to be an essential green attribute.

    I think OPENNEM has one of the best presentations of grid data on the net. They only need to separate out the inter state interconnector flows and show a net demand line to improve it. Well, perhaps allow drill down by wind farm and power station. But you can isolate the contributions of individual types of generation, or combinations of them. And they give average values based on the regional reference prices.

  6. Joe Public permalink
    July 2, 2020 12:23 pm

    C’mon Paul, you can be more sarcastic than that.

    New South Wales’ largest operational wind farm (Sapphire) spent part of yesterday actually drawing power from the grid.

    The irony being that black coal was perhaps helping prevent its turbines’ bearings from brinelling.

  7. Frosty Oz permalink
    July 2, 2020 1:22 pm

    In the Australian National Electricity Market the power retailers don’t actually buy power from wind and solar farms. Instead, those wind farms and solar farms sell their power to the grid operator (AEMO) for the half-hourly spot price, at times that those farms are generating.

    The grid supplies electric power to the connection points of customers (such as City of Sydney), and for this the retailers pay to the grid operator the half-hourly spot price as at the time that the consumption by their customers occurs. There is nothing very green about that. The retailers also pay the network charges for delivery of the power to the customer.

    The accredited reneweable generators in Australia earn a Renewable Energy Certificate (REC) allocated to them by the Clean Energy Regulator for each 1MWh of loss-adjusted renewable generation above their 1997-2000 baseline production (for most the baseline will be nil). The UK ROC was similar to the Australian REC.

    The retailers promise to their “green” customers such as City of Sydney that the retailer will annually purchase Australian RECs equivalent in quantity to the quantity of power consumed by the customer. The retailers surrender to the Clean Energy Regulator annually the number of RECs equivalent to the current annual prescribed percentage of required renewable energy, or pay a shortfall tax of A$65/MWh. The % percentage prescribed for 2020 is 19.31% in RECs from large plants, and a further 24.40% in RECs from small (<100kw) plants.

    What happens to the 81,69% of large RECs that are not surrendered to the Clean Energy Regulator under the mandatory scheme can differ according to the arrangements with the customer:

    * the most common arrangement is that the retailer participates in a scheme called the "Green Power" scheme, under which the retailer surrenders to a special sequestration account with the Clean Energy Regular the balance RECs, and is audited annually as to the amounts it has claimed to sell as "Green Power" versus the amount it has surrendered to the sequestration account.

    * an alternative arrangement is that the retailer transfers the remaining 81.69% of large RECs into an account of the customer at the Clean Energy Regulator, and the customer itself surrenders those RECs to a sequestration account with the Clean Energy Regulator. In this arrangement the customer becomes certain that it has seen RECs equal to the total of its power consumption come into its hands, but there is no-one particularly checking that the customer transfers its RECs to the Regulator's sequestration account. But making a "green claim" and on-sellling the RECs rather than sequestering them would constitute illegal "misleading and deceptive" conduct.

    In some cases, the retailer holds power price hedge contracts with the wind or solar farms in addition to purchasing the RECs, but the volumes hedged under those usually follow the renewable generator's production rather than the customers' loads.

    A REC can be generated anywhere in Australia, even a grid unconnected to the grid on which the customer who makes the green claim is located.

    Some customers just purchase the balance (81.69%) large RECs direct from the renewable generators, or from a secondary market, to "green" themselves without the involvement of the retailer that pays for their grid power consumption.

    The Regulator reported that in Q1 2020 large RECs were trading at a spot price of A$27.75.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      July 2, 2020 2:21 pm

      Frosty: You just made my head hurt!

    • Gerry, England permalink
      July 3, 2020 10:29 am

      In the old days you generated some electricity, shoved it down a cable to the users and billed them for what they used – one sentence covers it.

      But these days everything is made so complicated. The UK guide to taxation known as Tolley’s ballooned during Gordon Brown’s dismal reign as he kept fiddling and introducing taxes. It is now so large you probably don’t live long enough to read it – and it changes every year.

  8. JerryC permalink
    July 2, 2020 3:38 pm

    Climate indulgences, what a racket.

  9. July 2, 2020 3:54 pm

    Straight from the Critical Theory marxist handbook, if in doubt lie and lie and lie and the 99% useful idiots will believe you. Claiming the opposite of reality appears to be par for the course from those wishing to ride the Climate pantomime horse!

  10. July 2, 2020 3:56 pm

    Isn’t that a name that you give to a cow? Certainly in Yorkshire the farmers call their cows Clover or Buttercup and often some less polite things if they have a habit of misbehaving! What were her parents thinking?

  11. Nancy & John Hultquist permalink
    July 2, 2020 4:05 pm

    I can believe the solar panels by which she stands could power her office lights and a copy machine, and her cell phone. In the sense of the “Royal WE”, she may be correct.

    I wonder what % of the vehicles owned/used by the City of Sydney are ICE versus EV.

  12. Curious George permalink
    July 2, 2020 4:15 pm

    In a sufficiently complicated market, no one can tell the difference between renewable and non-renewable. A sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from witchcraft.

    • July 2, 2020 10:30 pm

      Turn the coal off and the ‘100% renewable’ fantasists will soon discover reality.

  13. markl permalink
    July 2, 2020 4:40 pm

    Nothing but propaganda like all the virtue signaling.

  14. Coeur de Lion permalink
    July 2, 2020 6:21 pm

    If Sydney is buying all that renewable electricity, does that mean everyone else has to use coal? Does anyone check that these certificates are actually backed by a quantity of renewable electricity or is this another fraud?

    • Duker permalink
      July 4, 2020 3:17 am

      No , its the Municipal Council known as ‘City of Sydney’ , its territory is a tiny speck around the CBD and various trendy suburbs out of a metropolis of something like 5 mill.

  15. Davy permalink
    July 2, 2020 9:37 pm

    At least someone is seeing through this.
    Don’t expect any MSM report though..

    https://principia-scientific.org/ex-un-ipcc-scientist-trashes-new-climate-change-report/

  16. July 2, 2020 11:58 pm

    I doubt Clover will get her bicycle out again after the last time.

    Clover Moore is a cycling statistic (2010)

    As Sydney’s Lord Mayor tumbled from her bike and broke an ankle on Ride to Work Day last week, the State Parliament, where she is also an MP, was hearing about other victims of Sydney’s cycling obsession.

    She should get a Nissan Leaf as her mayoral car. Or an electric golf cart.

    • Athelstan. permalink
      July 3, 2020 12:28 pm

      Bruce,

      Ahem, is “broke an ankle”s some Aussie newspeak way of saying that,

      “she fell on her head and we don’t think that she’ll ever get better”………….

  17. Iain Reid permalink
    July 3, 2020 7:51 am

    I think I have said before on here that companies that use, as their marketing strategy, the fact that they sell only ‘green electricity’ is fraudulent.
    Not fraudulent in the sense that they cause their customers a financial loss but the customer is led to believe that they are helping to ‘save the planet’ and so their customers choose to buy from them on a false basis. Buying only renewable power or certificates by the vendor makes not one iota of difference to the total amount of CO2 emitted by generation.
    The basis that what electricity a customer receives is due to simple electrical criteria. For example if the household is fed from a substation that is fed only by wind generation or one that is fed solely by a gas generator determines what type of power the household receives. That is an over simplification but electricity takes the easiest and most direct route. Suppliers have no control over the type of power they sell and they must be aware of this.

    • July 3, 2020 8:54 am

      People who ‘convert’ to so-called renewable electricity suppliers should ask themselves: am I or am I not getting the same electrons at the power socket as I was before changing supplier? The answer of course being: yes.

      • Duker permalink
        July 4, 2020 3:23 am

        Not quite. Electrons dont travel like cars on a highway. There is transfer between atoms but its more the electric potential which is transferred at almost the speed of light along a conductor , as we know when we flick the switch

  18. RICHARD JARMAN permalink
    July 3, 2020 9:44 am

    White lies and Green lies –

  19. col1664 permalink
    July 3, 2020 10:02 am

    The analogy of “100% renewables” = Pouring a tanker load of Glennfidich into a reservoir then telling everyone you get single malt straight out of your tap.

  20. It doesn't add up... permalink
    July 3, 2020 10:13 am

    Still the best and funniest explanation of how this all works. Stick on the English subtitles and enjoy.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DxW-VLPyxqAM&ved=2ahUKEwjp-qvG3bDqAhXQTxUIHSrbAQ0QtwIwAHoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0XMf_pHX-G_t9DEpG2D2mZ

    • Bertie permalink
      July 3, 2020 11:15 am

      Hilariously profound.

    • Joe Public permalink
      July 3, 2020 11:28 am

      Bloody brilliant IDAU. Thanks for sharing.

      Paging Paul – That vid warrants a dedicated posting!

  21. Athelstan. permalink
    July 3, 2020 12:40 pm

    “clover”

    Fathered by a goatherd, backlit under Empyrean illuminated. ‘T was sired in a hayrick, mother gaia bestowed on the world another faerie queen given to ‘we can have it all sheilas’! and much gweeen thinking too. Dancing on moonbeams and believing in the magic renewable bog moss scented waste products of der leprechauns – down under version and poetic motions.

  22. JCalvertN permalink
    July 4, 2020 9:19 pm

    I wonder if any of her family have shares in the 100% renewables energy company?

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