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XR Demand Net Zero By 2025

July 3, 2020

By Paul Homewood



Just when you thought the loonies had gone away!



Extinction Rebellion has warned it will set up blockades in Westminster to prevent MPs from returning to work. A statement on its website said: "We’re not going to let them back in until they agree to start anew with justice, care and life at the heart of it. From September 1 we will peacefully blockade the UK Parliament in London until they promise that the first thing they’ll do is debate our three demands."

We will peacefully blockade the UK Parliament until they promise to debate our three demands

Extinction Rebellion

Extinction Rebellion said its first demand was for the Government to declare a climate and ecological emergency and work with other institutions to communicate the urgency for change.

The second demand is for the Government to act immediately to halt biodiversity loss and reduce greenhouse gas emissions to net zero by 2025.

And the group’s third demand is the creation of a "Citizens’ Assembly" on climate and ecological justice…..

Extinction Rebellion said: "We are at an intersection of global crises. Climate breakdown, COVID-19, racial injustice – all are symptoms of a toxic system that is driving us to extinction – a system built on economic inequality, extraction, the destruction of nature, and exploitation.



The idea that you can have a peaceful blockade that prevents MPs going to work is a contradiction in terms.

And talk of racial injustice, economic inequality and so on simply confirms the real, hard left agenda, hidden behind their green facade.

Of course, we knew all of this anyway, but what about their new demand for net zero emissions by 2025? Even if we drove the economy off the top of a cliff, it still would not make much of a dent in emissions.

Electricity only accounts for about a tenth of overall emissions in the UK, so even if we could miraculously quadruple our renewable capacity in the next five years, and find a way to manage with the lights going out half the time, it would make little difference.

Domestic users account for another 16% of non power emissions, mainly for heating, cooking and hot water.  Does XR recommend that we freeze to death in winter?

Industry emits about a quarter of GHGs, so that would have to all shut down. Another quarter comes from transport, which would raise the question of how we are all supposed to get to work, except for the fact that we would have no work to go to.

And finally there’s agriculture, with another tenth of emissions, so we would have no food to eat, even if there were lorries to ferry it around, and factories to process it.


Still, at least there is one consolation – Emma Thompson would be stuck would not be able to fly back from abroad every time she felt like it!

  1. grammarschoolman permalink
    July 3, 2020 2:09 pm

    Where’s Tebbit and his car when you need them?

  2. JimW permalink
    July 3, 2020 2:18 pm

    After the reaction to Covid and BLM what would you expect? XR thinks ( correctly) that they are facing a useless government and a cowed population. Now is the time to strike. Rather than write this off as ravings of a mad fringe group, I think I give it 50% chance of success. Terrible as that seems.

    • Robert Jones permalink
      July 3, 2020 5:23 pm

      Any strike will be entirely unsuccessful providing that the Met Police has recovered its confidence in dealing properly with illegal activity and manage to refrain from indulging in skateboard competitions with the protesters.

    • Mack permalink
      July 3, 2020 11:47 pm

      Good point Robert.

      The offence of ‘obstructing the highway’ is enshrined in law.

      Traditional old school police adviice to anyone blocking the highway was to go forth and multiply or else. Or, ‘move along nicely please’, in the more genteel fashion of modern plod parlance, ‘before you get nicked’.

      The end result of failure to adhere to the the directions of a constable to ‘un-obstruct’ the highway would, traditionally, be the same. Having ignored a warning, the perpetrator would be subject to arrest. The annals of British criminal history are littered with thousands of arrest records of common prostitutes, unlicensed chestnut sellers, ice cream men, sex shop doormen, leafleters and demonstrators etc etc who all fell foul of the offence of ‘obstructing the highway’.

      The law has not changed. Police practice may have. Should XR wish to impede any lawful access by any individual via a public highway then they should be subject to the full force of the law.

      With regard to her force’s previous dealings with XR, the Met Police Commissioner seems to have been curiously reluctant to enforce the laws available to her officers, including investigating the much more serious offences of ‘conspiracy’ committed by the organisers of such pre-planned actions of obstruction/criminal damage. A cynic might suspect that the Met Police top brass are sympathetic to the small anarchic minority who cause such misery to the masses. One can only hope that, eventually, a conservative prime minister might find the courage to appoint an old school copper as Commissioner who actually believes in putting bad guys behind bars, keeping the peace, preventing crime, maintaining a decent presence in the communities in which they serve and doing it all without fear or favour, no matter what colour, political persuasion or gender you are, or bothering about the minority of very noisy, permanently offended lefties who do so little to look after the communities they claim to serve. We live in hope!

      • Chaswarnertoo permalink
        July 5, 2020 7:33 am

        Fire up the Quattro!

  3. Broadlands permalink
    July 3, 2020 2:19 pm

    XR Net Zero by 2020?? “…but what about their new demand for net zero emissions by 2025? Even if we drove the economy off the top of a cliff, it still would not make much of a dent in emissions.”

    Indeed. Net zero implies going further than zero which then implies lowering the atmospheric value itself. Virtually impossible to take and store enough CO2 from the atmosphere to make a difference to the climate, regardless of the costs. Stupid is a stupid does?

  4. matelot65 permalink
    July 3, 2020 2:29 pm

    May I suggest that the whole lot of them are rounded up and deposited on one of the uninhabited Scottish Isles that the crofters left due to living in conditions that ER demand from us. After 6 months they can come back and blockade Parliament (having walked all the way of course!)

    • Phillip Bratby permalink
      July 3, 2020 3:04 pm

      That s precisely what I was thinking. They could then have their own system of democracy.

      Alternatively, we could chip in and build XR an Ark Ship B, designed to relocate the useless part of the population. We could send them to Antarctica, which is becoming very warm (they say).

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      July 3, 2020 3:06 pm

      St Kilda, The National Trust for Scotland should allow zero carbon environmentalists without needing too much persuading. Gruinard Island would also be suitable

    • Geoff B permalink
      July 3, 2020 3:10 pm

      Gruinard Island (/ˈɡrɪnjərd/ GRIN-yərd;[6] Scottish Gaelic: Eilean Ghruinneard) is a small, oval-shaped Scottish island approximately 2 kilometres (1.2 mi) long by 1 kilometre (0.6 mi) wide, located in Gruinard Bay, about halfway between Gairloch and Ullapool.[7] At its closest point to the mainland it is about 1 kilometre (0.6 mi) offshore. The island was dangerous for all mammals after experiments with the anthrax bacterium in 1942, until it was decontaminated in the late 20th century

    • Sobaken permalink
      July 3, 2020 4:20 pm

      I’d imagine most of them are fanatical enough to go through it and come back. They just see no point in doing it as it doesn’t further their goals in any way. They don’t see living a modern lifestyle as hypocritical, just like Unabomber had no qualms using technology to print his manifestos and make his bombs, they will use all the tools of technological civilization in their fight against it.

      • JerryC permalink
        July 3, 2020 5:49 pm

        No. The idea isn’t for them to live 13th century peasants. The idea is for everyone else to live like 13th century peasants so that they can continue to live a modern lifestyle without “destroying the planet”.

  5. July 3, 2020 2:33 pm
    Dominic Cummings backs £100,000,000 air-scrubber plan to remove CO2

    Sounds like a good use of the money forest. Any one remember austerity well say hello to austerity 2.
    I am guessing with all the new unemployment there will be plenty of negative equity mortgages. But who needs employment we can always bring in the basic income.

    • Broadlands permalink
      July 3, 2020 2:59 pm

      “The UK’s target is to reach net zero carbon emissions by 2050, and some experts think without efforts to remove existing CO2 from the atmosphere, it will be next to impossible to meet this goal.”

      It IS quite impossible. “Atmospheric CO2 levels are expressed in parts per million by volume (ppm). To convert from ppm to gigatonne of carbon, the conversion tables of the Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center advise that 1 part per million of atmospheric CO2 is equivalent to 2.13 Gigatonnes Carbon. Using the 44 over 12 rule, this means 1ppm = 7.8 Gigatonnes of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere.”

      Thus, it is a non-negotiable fact that to lower atmospheric CO2 by just ONE part per million would require the permanent and safe storage of 7.8 gigatonnes, 7,800 million metric tonnes of oxidized carbon. And that is just ONE ppm! Obviously, many more than one would be required. I don’t think Mr. Cummings is aware of this?

      • Rosie Langridge permalink
        July 3, 2020 8:17 pm

        How much CO2 are they planning to remove, and what effect would that have on plant growth? Has anyone done the sums anywhere?

      • Philip Foster permalink
        July 3, 2020 10:36 pm

        “If seven maids with seven mops
        Swept it for half a year,
        Do you suppose,” the Walrus said,
        “That they could get it clear?”
        “I doubt it”, said the Carpenter,
        And shed a bitter tear.

        As you try to remove the CO2 from the air, CO2 will simply replace it from the oceans – Henry’s Law. So the process will, for all intents and purposes, never finish.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      July 4, 2020 3:12 am

      That newspaper article has got it completely wrong. Check out my recent postings and you will see I have offered real information about this technology.
      Direct Air Capture uses an amine adsorption filter to extract both CO2 and water vapour from the atmosphere. It is not an incredibly energy intensive process as the article falsely claims as most of the energy input is low grade thermal
      Climeworks (a Swiss DAC company) are currently claiming 10kWh electricity and 100kwh thermal at approx 80 to 10°C per 1000kg of extracted almost 100% pure CO2.
      That waste heat can be (and currently is at Beznau NPP) very cheaply sourced from a nuclear power plant. For example whilst Sizewell B is rated at 1200MWe it produces 3600MWth and literally throws away the 2/3rds surplus waste low grade energy into the North Sea. It is actually cheaper to use that energy than throw it away but up to now there has not been a use for it locally.

      Secondly, and equally importantly, the object of the exercise is not to sequester the CO2 rather to recycle it. By combining CO2 with H2 it is possible to produce synthetic hydrocarbons (Fischer Tropsch process). Again a nuclear power plant is particularly efficient at electrolysis. Much of the energy requirement can be supplied by cheaper heat and less electricity by High Temperature Electrolysis and even with no electrical input at all in some Gen IV designs by Thermal decomposition of water..

      The resultant synthetic hydrocarbons burn exceptionally cleanly and only return to the atmosphere the CO2 initially extracted i.e/ no SOX or NOX etc.

      None other than Rolls Royce and its Small Modular Reactor programme are promoting this option. For them it is a means to provide synth fuels for aviation in the gas turbines they manufacture as well as promoting their PWR programme.

      Whatever your views on the pollutant effect of CO2 may be, the other unpleasant byproducts in aviation from the volume of hydrocarbons they inject into the upper atmosphere are definitely not good for the environment. Electric planes are a non starter but synth fuels recycling CO2 are actually being manufactured now.
      Replace “renewable” with “nuclear” in the above and it is not such a silly idea after all.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        July 4, 2020 2:15 pm

        And you would bother because…….

      • It doesn't add up... permalink
        July 4, 2020 4:14 pm

        I have little doubt that when eventually oil supply reduces and becomes more expensive, we will continue to make premium hydrocarbon fuels for which there is not really a sensible substitute – particularly jet fuel. The question then becomes what are the most economic feedstocks.

        Current F-T production relies on either GTL from natural gas that has been considered otherwise stranded because of transport cost or low netback as LNG, or as with Sasol, from coal. If extraction of feedstock from air were economic, it would have been developed long before now. But there is a huge difference in the effective ore grade of air at 1 tonne per 2400 if your extraction process is 100% efficient and coal or methane where the relationship is 85% useful content or better. We are not likely to run out of coal for some time after we need to be making jet fuel. Coal is under $50/tonne CIF Rotterdam.

  6. lapford permalink
    July 3, 2020 2:48 pm

    How very democratic XR are. Never mind anybody else, they just want to impose their will on us all. Perhaps they would like to join one of those pleasant countries where democracy doesn’t exist – try north Korea. Could we not club together and buy them all one-way tickets?

    • Mad Mike permalink
      July 4, 2020 11:44 am

      I suggest they could kill 2 birds with one stone by going to live and work in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, aptly named for them I think, where they could replace all those children currently employed to mine cobalt used in lithium batteries and lead a democratic life. Now that’s virtue signalling with action.

  7. July 3, 2020 2:52 pm

    As long as we use the word “net” it may be possible.

    • Broadlands permalink
      July 3, 2020 3:16 pm

      The only greenhouse gas that can easily be absorbed from the atmosphere is carbon dioxide. There are two basic approaches to extracting it: by stimulating nature to absorb more, and by building technology that does the job.”

      Stimulating nature can only be temporary as long as the oxygen created by the biomass is available to recycle it back to CO2 by aerobic respiration. The time involved is highly variable, with algae recycling faster than trees. There is no technology that can accomplish that in the huge amounts required to make a difference… billions of tonnes.

      • July 3, 2020 3:20 pm

        So the word “net” is meaningless? Why is it used?

    • Mack permalink
      July 4, 2020 1:08 am

      ‘Net’ is one of those ‘elastic’ words in the English language that means everything to everybody.

      ‘Net’ zero, as you well know Chaamjamal, particularly when it comes to carbon emissions, doesn’t actually mean producing ‘zero’ carbon emissions. It means producing lots of carbon emissions but, at the same time, doing something nice and friendly to the planet like, er, paying someone like Al Gore or the government loads of money for a ‘carbon offset voucher’ that might result in doing something nice and friendly to the planet or maybe not, who knows, but your carbon emissions have been disappeared and you can feel all fluffy and nice about your green virtue. In the meantime, it enables someone like Al Gore to whizz around the planet in private jets and gas guzzling limos to lecture the poor unwashed on how their fossil fuelled lifestyles are ruining the planet and raising sea levels to such an extent that someone like him might be almost tempted to sell a beachfront property that he had acquired since climate change became a thing! Or, perhaps not. I understand that the Obmas, in Martha’s Vineyard, and Di Caprio, with his island in Belize, are equally shocked that their realtors didn’t tell them that their squillion dollar close to sea level acquisitions were vulnerable to man made global warming. How amazing is that? Anyone would think that they didn’t actually believe in their doom laden forecasts of the future. Surely not?

      • July 4, 2020 1:16 am

        Great comment, Mack. Thank you. You can just come out and say the things I am too timid to say.

  8. LeedsChris permalink
    July 3, 2020 3:29 pm

    The pointlessness of this is demonstrated by the Annual Energy Review, just recently published by BP. It showed that emissions from the developing countries of CO2 had risen by in excess of 400,000,000 tonnes in one year. That means that even if the UK went for total zero on next New Year’s Day 2021 (ie closed everything, stopped all energy use and produced no CO2) the emissions from developing countries alone would have increased to ‘replace’ the entire amount of CO2 saved by the UK closing down by October 27th.. 2021…..

    • July 4, 2020 5:03 am

      “emissions from the developing countries of CO2 had risen by in excess of 400,000,000 tonnes in one year”

      That’s only 0.4 gigatons of CO2 or about 1% of annual emissions and well within the estimation uncertainty.

  9. It doesn't add up... permalink
    July 3, 2020 3:54 pm

    Cressida should be announcing that any such attempt will be met with instant arrest. Now where is she?

    • July 4, 2020 1:32 pm

      Hiding underneath her hat?

      • Gerry, England permalink
        July 4, 2020 2:18 pm

        Perhaps she is still scarred from having an innocent Brasilian electrician shot under her watch.

  10. Curious George permalink
    July 3, 2020 3:56 pm

    There is an extremely simple way to achieve a Net Zero locally: Stop breathing for 30 minutes at least. Every serious supporter should consider it.

  11. mjr permalink
    July 3, 2020 3:58 pm

    It is all irrelevant anyway.. The way this government is destroying the economy with this lockdown they are quite capable of achieving net 2021

  12. Dave Cowdell permalink
    July 3, 2020 3:59 pm

    Poor deluded Roger Hallam, who gained a Phd in civil disobedience. He became convinced that the climate was in trouble when his Welsh organic farm failed after “unprecedented bad weather” Nothing to do with him being a rubbish farmer then.

    • July 3, 2020 11:48 pm

      More on Hallam here:

      Also his business partner, Gail Bradbrook:

      “Hallam’s running mate, Gail Bradbrook, is an adult version of Greta Thunberg, spouting pure weirdness. In a speech sponsored by HSBC Bank, she began,

      I am speaking to you as a rebel, as a mother, and more than anything, a mother of life on earth … [School strikers] are not protesting, they are begging. Begging for their lives …

      We are f***ed. Humanity is f***ed. It [climate] is a disaster of Biblical proportions. We have to let in that feeling of grief. This is a feminine peace for all of us, men, women and other genders, to feel the grief …”

      • July 4, 2020 9:44 am

        Has this dimwit heard of water vapour? It amounts to about 90-95% of so-called greenhouse gases. What does she propose to do about that?

      • Lez permalink
        July 4, 2020 7:38 pm

        Is there a common theme here? All the main proponents of ER appear to be devoid of a Y chromosome.

  13. bobn permalink
    July 3, 2020 4:10 pm

    If the softy softy police allow this blockade on public streets, then they must allow a blockade of this blockade. I suggest inviting the centerist protesters who came out to protect statues to come back and blockade this far-left XR blockade.
    After the centerist counter-protest in London it was noticable that the far-left stopped their violent protests. So well done the statue protectors for doing what the police dont want to do. Anyone got Tommy Robinson’s number?

  14. martinbrumby permalink
    July 3, 2020 4:29 pm

    Where are the water cannon?
    Needed NOW!

    • Gamecock permalink
      July 3, 2020 5:12 pm

      Water? How ’bout canister?

      You can’t block Parliament. Attempting to do so will get you jail time. This isn’t complicated.

      What? The police won’t stop them? That can’t be right.

    • July 3, 2020 11:51 pm

      The water cannon…
      I think Sadiq Khan sold the ex German ones that Boris bought on Ebay and never got to use.

      • CheshireRed permalink
        July 4, 2020 3:09 pm

        The Maybot sold them to spite Boris.

      • Lez permalink
        July 4, 2020 7:36 pm

        Yes, it was the Maybot, doing her best to humiliate Boris.

  15. tonyb permalink
    July 3, 2020 4:57 pm

    There was an XR protest in nearby Totnes last week which involved the symbolic use of children’s shoes

    as the organiser said;

    “When my (yet to be born) grandson is old enough to wear the slippers (10 years?) ‘the world will be in catastrophic and irreversible breakdown if we continue with business as usual, we have to find a new way of living for the future of every child alive today ’

    How do you argue the science with such people who no doubt is a sincere and nice person but goes along with the notion of net zero emissions by 2025. How is this possible? Its not and the XR website carefully skirts round the scientific means of achieving their aims

  16. Pancho Plail permalink
    July 3, 2020 5:01 pm

    Perhaps someone can explain how blocking access to parliament will affect what China does.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      July 4, 2020 2:21 pm

      They could also explain what use Parliament and its members are in the running of this country? We have never had such a poor bunch of no-hopers in decades.

      • July 4, 2020 2:49 pm

        It’s amusing to see the “no entry” signs on alternate seats in the Commons. It seems to have made little difference to the numbers turning up for important debates.

  17. M E permalink
    July 3, 2020 5:27 pm

    Carbon dioxide is not causing any climate on Earth to change. No one has been able to prove the hypothesis which was ,even when arrived at in the last century ,a tentative one. If they had all the data the result of manipulating it would still result in another hypothesis and weather systems would vary as they always have in their climatic regions

  18. July 3, 2020 6:25 pm

    Let them do it. They can place anything they have that is derived from or manufactured by fossil fuels in the trays provided before they enter the protest.

    But even less seriously folks……. let’s actually get Boris to agree to this. He can stand up in parliament and explain the measures that would be required to reach Net Zero by 2025. He could start by announcing that the electricity grid was going to be turned off, & that the petrol stations were not going to be refilled. Government was going to be disbanded 30 minutes later, and replaced by a new system called “everyone for themselves.” The next ferry to Calais would also be the last, as our continental friends feared a massive influx of refugees.

    Then, rounding off: “all thanks to our friends XR, who may be found loitering in Parliament Square.”


    • David Albert permalink
      July 3, 2020 8:21 pm

      Seriously why not agree to debate (that’s what XR asked for) each of these demands? It is an official sanction and venue for a real debate including the erroneous assumptions that support XR’s views. It would necessarily include real cost-benefit calculations. It seems to me that XR is demanding what we skeptics have tried to effect for years to no avail.

  19. Tonyb permalink
    July 3, 2020 6:57 pm

    Just to demonstrate that we have collectively gone mad whether climate or covid related, scroll to the bottom of the link to see that the majority of the public want to see a four day week but with five days of ay

  20. Bertie permalink
    July 3, 2020 8:54 pm

    Problem is that Carrie probably approves.

  21. Huw T permalink
    July 3, 2020 8:54 pm

    If these dangerous lunatics attempt to blockade Parliament I think that a strong dose of tear gas and some water cannons should do the trick. No talking to them and playing music. Remove them in a severe and determined way.

  22. bobn permalink
    July 3, 2020 10:29 pm

    Of course who really cares if they block parliament. if it doesnt sit for 6 months we’ll be spared all the damaging new stupid laws they may enact. Now if they pla ned to block somewhere that does useful work, like a mine or manufacturing plant that would be serious. But given Parliament is a useless waste of time most of the time -so what? No new climate change acts!

  23. Ken permalink
    July 3, 2020 11:01 pm

    Who is going to plug the volcano thay push out more gasses than all the cars in the world so if you get rid of cars lorries trains tractors we would all starve to death. and the air would be so clean the sun would Bern you.

  24. tom0mason permalink
    July 4, 2020 12:25 am

    And I, all my friends, and relatives DEMAND that all media outlets stop detailed reporting of anything from the XR idiots or their antics, other than just the abreviated facts.
    Maybe we should form the radical movement of ‘Extremely Honest Reporting’ or XHR.

  25. RICHARD JARMAN permalink
    July 4, 2020 11:15 am

    Is this does go ahead and the police perform as they did last time, then expect or demand an advert for a New Commissioner of the Met Plod

  26. July 4, 2020 11:48 am

    These people are marxists and should be treated with the full weight of the law. All marxist entities should in any reasonable world be outlawed given the amount of blood and abject failure which follows this accursed ideology from devastated land to devastated land. More than one hundred million dead of their own people who did not conform and this obscenity is still given air to breath.

  27. Vernon E permalink
    July 4, 2020 12:38 pm

    Ray Sanders: I can assure you that the Fischer-Tropsch reaction does not include CO2. It reacts CO with hydrogen to produce low grade crude oil (“syncrude”) and a voluminous and environmentally disgusting by-product called “reaction water”. Don’t even think about it..

  28. CheshireRed permalink
    July 4, 2020 2:55 pm

    Don’t get your hopes up. What’s lacking in this XR ‘debate’ is government criticism of these loons. Last summer government made the barest minimum of fuss over the XR London protests (including a police escort while XR paraded a pink boat in central London!) which in turn HAD to be sanctioned by Khan’t and The D*ckless Wonder to go ahead.

    The truth is government and opposition alike see XR as very useful public campaigners, giving ‘climate change’ policies a gigantic big shove. XR are going nowhere because they’re useful to the authorities. That’s the reality.

  29. Broadlands permalink
    July 5, 2020 1:00 pm

    Reality is having a rough time dealing with such purveyors of ‘truth’ as this…

    “I’m not saying facts don’t matter or the scientific method should be watered down or we should communicate without facts. What I am saying is that now the climate science has been proven to be true to the highest degree possible, we have to stop being reasonable and start being emotional.”

    The highest degree possible???

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