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Petition To Continue Mining In Whitehaven

August 10, 2020

By Paul Homewood

 

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https://www.change.org/p/cumbria-county-council-confirmation-of-mining-in-whitehaven?redirect=false

 

There is a new petition to lobby Cumbria County Council to continue coal mining at Whitehaven

I’m not aware of any potential local issues, but the mine certainly should not be closed to satisfy climate targets.

Please check it out.

19 Comments
  1. Tony Budd permalink
    August 10, 2020 7:45 pm

    Even if the climate freaks get their way, we could still do with coal for steam trains, steam boats and other historic pieces of equipment.

  2. Harry Passfield permalink
    August 10, 2020 7:46 pm

    Checked it out. Couldn’t get past the ‘leave it in the ground’ nonsense. Well, there is an easy way for those that believe this nonsense: if they want to ‘leave (energy) it in the ground, they should refuse to put their lights on; cook a dinner on electric; or drive their cars. Someoe has to make a start – let them show the way. No?

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      August 11, 2020 10:40 am

      Surely cooking on gas is out too?

  3. Mark Hodgson permalink
    August 10, 2020 7:56 pm

    Paul, on a point of detail, this is not to allow coal mining to continue, but refers to a permission granted for a new mine to commence operations – and which the usual subjects are frantically lobbying to derail. The owner’s website is here:

    https://www.westcumbriamining.com/

  4. August 10, 2020 7:59 pm

    I still question the lack of empiricism in the arguments to spend OR equally ban things vs climate benefit in respect of a cost benefit analysis of the climate not doing whatever the climate is supposed to do if we do or do not do those things. I wait for the time they promise when herds of unicorns once again swim cross our currently getting greener and pleasanter land.

    • Chaswarnertoo permalink
      August 11, 2020 6:59 am

      Well, we need the unicorn poop to power the electric cars we’ll all be driving in ten years time. 🤣😂🤣😂😎

  5. ianprsy permalink
    August 10, 2020 8:29 pm

    One of the stories linked to this one is this. I can’t think how I missed it first time round:

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/09/16/south-kesteven-district-council-to-spend-50000-as-it-declares-a-climate-emergency/?relatedposts_hit=1&relatedposts_origin=45868&relatedposts_position=0

    Paul expressed surprise that a council had actually committed $£50K to the scam. That’s nothing (as Monty Python would say) my council’s budgeted £3.64million. Still trying to get them to admit they need a mandate, among other things.

    • Cyan permalink
      August 10, 2020 10:29 pm

      ianprsy, my council, which has 38.5k households, has spent £100k employing a “Carbon Reduction Officer” and producing this piece of fact-free nonsense:

      Click to access climate-emergency-rapid-action-plan.pdf

      Now they have approved £115k for solar panels on the roof of the HQ which will reduce their carbon footprint by 2%.

      Paul, if you read this can you spare a little space on your excellent blog to collect statistics on local councils from which we could organise coordinated action to counter this nonsense?

      • ianprsy permalink
        August 11, 2020 9:20 am

        Thanks Cyan, that would be good. Readers are, I guess, from all parts of the UK (and abroad), so should be able to get this info and report. [Can’t see your insert btw]

      • August 11, 2020 9:37 am

        Where does the £100K come from?

      • Ian Wilson permalink
        August 11, 2020 2:24 pm

        South Gloucester Council boast they are wasting (but that’s not the word they use) £8 million of our money on “fighting climate change”. Unless the council has found some way of influencing the sun I can’t see them achieving much.

        Back to the main story, Highthorn Colliery in Durham was approved by local planners back in 2015. If opened, its coal will power cement and steel-making in Britain and avoid reliance on Russia and other dubious sources, but the government has been dragging its feet for nearly five years. I fear with Boris/Carrie in charge we will see a repeat of the fracking fiasco, total capitulation to the Green mafia.

  6. MrGrimNasty permalink
    August 10, 2020 8:46 pm

    More BBC laughs:-

    Antarctica is 26,500,000 gigatons, the BBC is worried it’s losing ~150 gigatons a year.
    Of course they come up with impressive sounding visualizations of this ‘vast’ quantity.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-53725288

    Even that tiny amount will be a model and exaggerated and from various causes (maybe not even climate change at all), and are they even counting mass that goes back in……?

    I had to use duckduck to easily find the total mass, every link from Google I tried – even links that said How much ice is there in….. actually answered by telling you about loss!

    • John Dawson permalink
      August 10, 2020 10:44 pm

      They have run this on every news bulletin on TV and Radio 4 today. “Enough ice to fill the grand canyon”. I thought to myself – Antarctica is about as big as America (actually I see it’s 1.5x the area of the USA) – so that’s really not very much. I am surprised they didn’t use Olympic swimming pools as a metric to make it even more impressive.

      Your numbers suggest it’s under 6ppm per year – not quite negligible but pretty nearly so.

    • August 10, 2020 10:50 pm

      In 2015 NASA reported a net gain in Antarctic ice sheet mass:
      “A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers”.

      Argo Circum – Antarctic ocean temperatures from surface to 1900 m depth 2004 – 2020 show no apparent trend:

      (Climate4you).

  7. Christopher Hall permalink
    August 10, 2020 11:02 pm

    I was under the impression that this was a coking coal mine where the carbon in the coal is used to reduce iron ore to steel. Still produces CO2 but no substitute on the horizon.are we banning steel next?

    • Gerry, England permalink
      August 11, 2020 11:38 am

      It is and it is like the one that has been forced to close. Supplies will now come 6000 miles from Russia.

  8. August 11, 2020 12:23 am

    Thanks Paul

  9. Mark Hodgson permalink
    August 13, 2020 12:26 pm

    “Decision on new £165million coal mine plans delayed again”

    https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/18648740.decision-new-165million-coal-mine-plans-delayed/

    “A key decision on a proposed new £165million coal mine has been pushed back again.

    West Cumbria Mining’s controversial plans to extract coking coal off the coast of St Bees, with a processing plant on the former Marchon site at Kells, was set to be considered by Cumbria County Council’s development control and regulation committee next Thursday.

    That meeting has now been cancelled, delaying a decision again after one was initially due to be made in July but was postponed due to the number of people wishing to speak at the meeting.

    The next meeting of the committee is currently scheduled for October 2.

    A county council spokesperson said the meeting had been postponed because the report on the plans was not yet ready….”.

  10. avro607 permalink
    August 13, 2020 9:50 pm

    So it was all hot air by Boris to help the North.Now he has CONNed the voters,we will remember.
    Not a nice person.

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