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Telegraph Discover It Was Windy Last Week

August 27, 2020

By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Robin Guenier

 

 

Compare and contrast!

 

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/26/storm-ellens-winds-79mph-set-record-highest-ever-share-wind/

 

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https://gridwatch.co.uk/

 

The dopey Telegraph “journalists” don’t seem to have worked out that the wind does not always blow!

20 Comments
  1. Geoff B permalink
    August 27, 2020 10:23 am

    Not much wind today 27/08/20, 1.5GW. Coal is running at 2.3GW. A modern economy, totally reliant on electricity, should not rely on intermittent sources of power. it is going to be a tough winter.

    • tonyb permalink
      August 27, 2020 11:20 am

      Have faith! Just pray to the weather gods and placate them with lots of money

  2. Joe Public permalink
    August 27, 2020 10:24 am

    Or that our remaining small coal capacity is once again is generating more than our 24GW of windmills’ capacity.

  3. MrGrimNasty permalink
    August 27, 2020 10:39 am

    “National Grid ESO said that wind turbines supplied 59.1 per cent of Britain’s power on Saturday at 1am.”

    Weekend – check
    Middle of the night in summer – check

    I think actually it was the lowest demand recorded all year ~19GW, so wind was supplying about 11GW. Big deal. Between about the 10th and 19th it looks like wind averaged about 2GW with negligible/none several times.

    Storm Francis produced a high metered output ~13GW, no idea if that is a record – I expect we’ll hear if it is!

    Hardly surprising, of course you can do more and more of something massively inefficiently and expensively if you want. It’s not an achievement, just a sign of stupidity.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      August 27, 2020 1:02 pm

      The people who do the wind stats are the same ones who produce tge “(almost) winning here” bar charts for the LimpDums.

      • MrGrimNasty permalink
        August 27, 2020 1:26 pm

        I see Sir ‘Dick’ Ed Davey’s back!

      • August 27, 2020 3:01 pm

        Wind stat test for dopey journalists: ten times zero = ___?

  4. Robin Guenier permalink
    August 27, 2020 10:40 am

    This is a perfect reflection of the desperate state of the UK’s electric power. At 1AM on Saturday (when demand was tiny) wind contributed 59 percent to demand. At 8AM this morning (when demand was huge) it contributed 2 percent. And, as solar could only manage 1 percent, the evil coal had to help – contributing more (5 percent) than wind and solar combined. As usual, CCGT did the real business at 65 percent.

    It’s a most important story. But I don’t suppose the media will report it.

  5. miket permalink
    August 27, 2020 10:45 am

    I notice that record share was at 1.00 am. Must be huge demand at that time!

  6. LeedsChris permalink
    August 27, 2020 10:46 am

    This sort of article leaves one in despair. Journalists now just push propaganda and never check, never challenge. The basic ignorance is appalling. Just lok at the whole of last night, when wind was generating less than 2% of our electricity and gas close to 70% (Gridwatch figures). On many days this month and last month gas and nuclear have been generating upwards of 60% of our electricity for considerable periods. Only on 4-5th August and for some periods this last week has wind been significant.

  7. August 27, 2020 11:19 am

    Must admit I scream in frustration every time I see a press article welcoming the latest huge windfarm which will power thousands or millions of homes and I think what homes? where? for how much of the day or even how many days a week? Do these journalists never think to question the figures provided by developers? Surely by now they know it’s all nonsense. Or are they just paid to ignore the facts? Remember our story of the milkman –
    You engage a milkman to deliver 2 pints a day.
    He delivers 2 on Sunday, none on Monday, 1 on Tuesday, 3 on Wednesday, 1 on Thursday, 3 on Friday, and 4 on Saturday.
    Job done, you have had your weekly ration of 14 pints. An average of 2 pints a day. You would sack your milkman after week one. You wouldn’t pay him extra for being unreliable, and you wouldn’t pay for the surplus milk on the days there is too much and you wouldn’t pay him more to take the surplus away when you can’t use it either.

    • August 27, 2020 3:21 pm

      An excellent analogy …tho it’s still to complicated for most ‘eco-warriors’ & politicians.

  8. Mike Jackson permalink
    August 27, 2020 1:00 pm

    As at this precise moment, wind and solar combined are barely outstripping coal! Duh!

  9. MrGrimNasty permalink
    August 27, 2020 1:20 pm

    Sea ice news (not that it matters)!

    The DMI Daily mean temperature for the Arctic area north of the 80th northern parallel has belatedly reached zero, so melting should be slowing. Looks like final volume and extent will be lowest or in the lowest couple of years, but not by any margin – not the melt out that some agencies were forecasting for this year.

    Meanwhile Antarctic sea ice extent has just popped above the 1981-2010 median for the first time in a long while.

  10. James Broadhurst permalink
    August 27, 2020 1:36 pm

    Wind turbines have to be feathered at that wind speed so the article is rubbish

  11. Tym fern permalink
    August 27, 2020 3:46 pm

    Ridiculous statistic! 59% of a little is not much!

  12. Bertie permalink
    August 27, 2020 8:37 pm

    It makes me smile to see coal making a contribution, however small/

  13. Robin Guenier permalink
    August 28, 2020 8:24 am

    The Times tells us this morning that early last Wednesday,

    Turbines produced almost 60 per cent of power output as the storm blew through with gusts of almost 80 mph. The renewable energy record follows Britain’s longest period without usage from coal-fired power stations.

    . For some reason, it doesn’t go on to tell us that, during the next morning’s rush hour, the same turbines produced only 2 per cent – with coal producing more than twice as much. I wonder why.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/storm-franciss-80mph-gusts-generate-a-new-record-for-wind-power-jrc2fsq82

    • Robin Guenier permalink
      September 1, 2020 7:37 am

      And this morning (7:30) coal is contributing 5%, CCGT 69%, wind 5% and solar 0%.

  14. It doesn't add up... permalink
    August 28, 2020 10:09 pm

    I wonder what the curtailment bill was

    https://ref.org.uk/constraints/indexbymth.php

    Or maybe many had to shut for safety reasons, saving the curtailment bill a little. What was the amount of grid inertia available? Any journalist with real nous would have asked those questions.

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