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Facebook Censor John Stossel

October 10, 2020

Well known US TV presenter John Stossel has problems with the new Facebook censors:

You may recall a similar occurrence earlier in the year, when a group called Friends of Science were also awarded a “Misleading” tag by Facebook, again purely based on fake advice from the same Climate Feedback group who have attempted to censor Stossel.

And FoS’ offence? Simply to repost an article by the Volunteer Firefighters which pointed out that the major factor in why Victoria’s bushfires at the time were so bad was poor management of national parks and the failure to reduce hazardous fuel loads and clear vegetation. Yes, you read it right – the firefighters, who know all about the realities on the ground, were deemed by a climate scientist not to know what they were talking about.

As FOS had reposted the firefighters article via my website, they were advised by Facebook that I should appeal to Climate Feedback. As with Stossel originally, I never even received a reply.

So a bunch of self elected “experts” are allowed to censor anybody who does not share their version of the truth. And there is no right to an independent appeal!

John Stossel mentions that Stefan Doerr is one of the “experts” at Climate Feedback, who decided his report was misleading. Doerr was also at the heart of the complaint against FOS.

Stossel also mentions Zeke Hausfather, who was heavily involved with the Berkeley Earth project. In recent years, he has been one of the main go-to guys for climate alarmists.

Both are so heavily into the propaganda side, that their objectiveness simply cannot be trusted. Needless to say, neither have any expertise whatsover with forestry or the science of wildfires.

It is bad enough that the likes of Doerr and Hausfather can set themsleves up as self appointed Guardians of the Truth. It is simply astonishing that Facebook should kowtow to them.

BTW- John Stossel produces weekly videos, which challenge what he calls mainstream media bias and scare stories. I would recommend subscribing to Stossel TV here:

  1. cajwbroomhill permalink
    October 10, 2020 10:25 pm

    Needs wide publicity to illustrate the unscientific, biased snake oil salesmen climate alarmists who prostitute themselves as “scientists”.

  2. October 10, 2020 10:40 pm

    Fakebook (sic) has lost the plot, if it ever had it in the first place.

  3. October 10, 2020 10:44 pm

    You know the truth will always be censored by the rogues.

  4. October 10, 2020 10:50 pm

    Those shady creatures are everywhere. On Quora, there is a guy named John L. Grantham who will ruthlessly pursue anyone who dares to disagree with him with the aim to get the person in question banned. Those people are like the Taliban and thats how hey should be treated.

    • Broadlands permalink
      October 11, 2020 1:24 am

      Rudolf… I know that from personal experience. Grantham provides funds for the AAAS (a science organization that used to be politically neutral but no longer is). As a long time member and AAAS Fellow, I was banned from participating in discussions because of my skeptical comments on global warming. I dared to disagree. Follow the money??

      • October 11, 2020 12:21 pm

        My late father, a chemistry professor with his PhD from MIT, referred to AAAS as the American Association for the Assassination of Science.

  5. I_am_not_a_robot permalink
    October 11, 2020 1:18 am

    It’s remarkable, the physical resemblance Mann -> Schmidt -> Hausfather.
    They all seem to assume a similar smirk as if to say: ‘oh, you’re an idiot! I know better. I can outwit you and control you’ (German-born psychiatrist Fritz Perls – Wiki).
    It’s probably coincidence I guess that they all have surnames of Germanic origin.

  6. October 11, 2020 2:16 am

    Thank you for this very clear analysis and for the john stossel link

  7. Athelstan. permalink
    October 11, 2020 7:08 am

    When this happens……

    Facebook is launching a climate change information page in an effort to promote facts about climate change from trusted sources.

    Users in the U.S., U.K., France and Germany are seeing links and information from Facebook’s Climate Change Information Center starting Tuesday. It’s similar to the COVID-19 information page launched in March.

    The spread of misinformation of all kinds has been a huge problem for the company, especially after evidence emerged of fake news on Facebook during the 2016 election campaign.

    The climate information page features articles from reputable news sources and social media posts from government and international agencies like the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the World Meteorological Organization.

    Facebook says it partners with more than 70 organizations to fact-check misinformation, including that related to climate change. There has been some controversy over what is exempted from fact-checking as “opinion” when it comes to climate change.

    “We are hopeful this climate science information center will be very effective,” says Facebook Vice President of Global Affairs and Communications Nick Clegg.

    nick clegg, arch dissimulator, eu spokesgob, and worse.

    Be in no doubt, all of them part of the UN world communism scheme, a NWO and the transport: the great green/covid scam.

    • October 11, 2020 7:55 am

      Athelstan. What Covid scam? I hope you are just in disagreement with the government’s way of dealing with it, which is a valid viewpoint. I sincerely hope you’re not one of those nutjobs who say it isn’t real or some sort of plot to make money for pharmaceutical companies.

  8. knudgeknudge permalink
    October 11, 2020 7:47 am

    Athelstan, what is the ‘covid scam’ in your opinion. How are you using the term ‘scam’ in this context?

  9. Athelstan. permalink
    October 11, 2020 8:59 am

    words are unnecessary a nurse tells it all:

    • October 11, 2020 10:08 am

      Athelstan. That proves nothing, I can easily counter with, “my wife’s a nurse and it’s the opposite of that in her hospital now” Which is true in her hospital.

    • Mike Jackson permalink
      October 11, 2020 10:14 am

      Sorry, Athelstan, that “interview” stinks! I spent 30 years of my life interviewing, editing, and subbing, and that does not ring true. If it was genuine it was very, very heavily edited. No nurse I have ever known — and I had two aunts in that profession! — would have spoken in the way she did. That’s a propaganda piece, pure and simple.

      • Athelstan. permalink
        October 11, 2020 1:13 pm

        I can’t quite get over the thunderous echoing around the cliffs of black irony.

        On a site dedicated to debunking the nescience of man made CO2 causing warming and all the attendant miasma of Government BS lies and propaganda – evident.

        Then and but we are to be, in the same moment, compliant, to be utterly convinced to all the UK government utters on and about and covid-19 – really? To say the least I am somewhat nonplused.
        Let’s put it another way, shall I? Her majesty’s government overkill, what about the ‘lockdown’ and awful bloody phrase in the meantime crashing the economy in effort to ‘save’ the people and from what – the nhs? How is that for lunatic policy, done in panicked stupidity and washed down with vaulting arrogance? Supercilious know nothing politicians playing God and bounced along by the ‘science’, all too incredible it is.

        Mike and btw I might just mention here, this, the wonderful honest as the day is long NHS

        I will say here, you are entitled to your opinion, I note it. I am just a very sceptical observer covid a veil and what are they really hiding? Ineed, I’d trust this executive as far as I could chuck the PRC.

        Where did honesty and truth go Mike?

      • Duker permalink
        October 11, 2020 11:23 pm

        You are living in a bubble of bogey-men that has finally been popped

  10. Don Keiller permalink
    October 11, 2020 9:18 am

    I was suspended by Twitter for posting a link to this paper in a peer-reviewed journal.
    Twitter called it “harmful misinformation”.
    Twitter clearly know better than the scientists who wrote the paper and those who reviewed it.

    • Athelstan. permalink
      October 11, 2020 10:07 am

      Careful mate, cant have the truth getting out – now can we? HCQ and Zn, cheap as chips cure, big pharma and western gov’s couldn’t, wouldn’t approve of it.

      Furthermore, one wonders, even if big pharma arrive at a placebo ooops, erm a vax its efficacy would be as remedial as HCQ + Zn, would they ever dare to compare them?

      • October 11, 2020 10:10 am

        Dear goodness, you are a full on conspiracy theory person. The big pharma claim has not a shred of evidence to it. You probably also believe that “big pharma” is hiding a cheap cure for cancer. I despair at your gullibility

      • Harry Davidson permalink
        October 11, 2020 12:41 pm

        David Guy-Johnson: What an exceptionally low standard post. Firstly and most obviously, you assign him a belief that he has given no hint of, nd then despair that he believes it.

        In your ignorance you seem to be unaware yourself of the systemic problem with double blind trials. They are very expensive. Ergo a drugs company will for one with a drug they hope to make squillions out of, but nobody will pay for a trial of an established cheap drug that might work on a different condition. That’s fair enough, they are a business. That is not a conspiracy, he didn’t say it was, but you did. Why did you suggest a big pharma conspiracy when no one else had?

      • Duker permalink
        October 11, 2020 11:36 pm

        Big Pharma?
        many hospital doctors are running trials of existing medicines . Dont need ‘Big Pharma’ to do that as the patients present themselves everyday. Nor is ‘double blind’ always necessary, for example would ‘placebo surgery’ ever be done ? The answer is very rarely.
        One recent patient for a experimental treatment of antibodys was Donald Trump the combination ‘including zinc, vitamin D and the generic version of the heartburn treatment Pepcid’.

      • M E permalink
        October 12, 2020 8:04 am

        I keep repeating that you should just take a look at MedCram on Youtube
        There are lectures with references to peer reviewed medical literature from a doctor who is treating people on the ward and also teaching medical personnel. it is very interesting. Even the non biologists such as myself can follow the diagrams. It’s something to do during lockdowns and who knows what you may learn.?

      • October 14, 2020 5:09 am

        “Nor is ‘double blind’ always necessary…” – Duker

        That’s correct.
        Whenever a blind study seems to be showing that an unusual number of patients are responding to treatment, the study is exposed to see if it’s the drug that’s accomplishing that. If it is, it is no longer ethical to continue with placebos (where more people will have a bad outcome), and the drug is not withheld from those who were on placebo. So, for Fauci to insist on a double blind study, in the face of evidence that HCQ is of great benefit, tells me he’s on the wrong side of reality. I don’t want to speculate on the thinking that led him to be wrong, but it is obvious that he is wrong. Very very wrong.

  11. October 11, 2020 12:35 pm

    Facebook began the day after the closing of Lifelog with the puppet, Zuckerberg at the helm. Lifelog was a product of DARPA Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency under the US Dept. of Defense). Basically, it is for information sweeping on individuals. Not nice.

    However, FB like YouTube, Twitter, etc. are beginning to run afoul of the US Justice Dept. As they were “originally” a platform for putting out your thoughts w/o censorship except in some very specific cases (porn, etc.), they had special immunity from being sued as the individuals were responsible for what they posted and not these platforms.

    Not surprising, the left has taken them over and do not want anything which they do not like to be put up and are shadow-banning, taking down, putting people in FB jail, etc. It is conservative and Christian postings in addition to others telling the truth. And, of course, it is about the election.

    The Justice Department and Attorney General Bill Barr are telling them that when they begin to govern what people say they have become a publishing platform and as such can be sued by the individuals they harm. Let the games begin…….

    • Harry Davidson permalink
      October 11, 2020 3:50 pm

      When I was a member Facebook (it was useful for clubs, they use it to inform members) I changed my password regularly. Three of them still turn up in “we know you password” spam. Basefook’s policy on security seems to be that it’s cheaper to just not bother. I left when I came to that conclusion.

  12. October 11, 2020 12:46 pm

    Let’s start a group “Defund those Denier Firemen” and get rid of their lies about what is causing the fires. Get some posters, some protest leaders and hit the streets. Zuckerberg will be proud. (Make it illegal for Zuck to have his own fire fighters and any other rich people. They should NOT be employing deniers.)

  13. Ben Vorlich permalink
    October 11, 2020 4:28 pm

    I’m with you Athelstan, there is an element of saving face for the government yet the number of deaths from CV19 is very low in my opinion. Having hit the vulnerable earlier it is infecting many more, apparently, but killing fewer and those fatality numbers seem dubious to say the least. Less than 4% of cases with an outcome are fatal and this number is falling daily. Better outcomes infers initial treatments were incorrect.
    I’m of the opinion that we have a cabal who enjoy the unbridled power they now hold, with no checks and balances anywhere apart from a few on social media. Unfortunately Boris and his cohorts are not like Cincinnatus and so will be with us for the foreseeable future., God help us

    • October 11, 2020 7:10 pm

      Your Popinjay does not seem to be any better!

    • Athelstan. permalink
      October 12, 2020 6:38 am

      “Boris and his cohorts are not like Cincinnatus and so will be with us for the foreseeable future., God help us”

      indeed, well said, all of it.

      Gawd and the bigger lunacy perhaps, expecting, praying that Doris Johnson can put humpty back together again?!

  14. Sobaken permalink
    October 13, 2020 4:36 pm

    I wasn’t aware that Hausfather is with the Breakthough Institute. That kind of redeems him, at least he’s not your typical malthusian, “100% wind and solar” greenie.

  15. October 13, 2020 11:06 pm

    There’s mention above about a “scam,” and while it can appear that way, it may be explicable by gross incompetence.

    Also mentioned was the HCQ/Zn/Azithromycin combination, which we do know works. (Yes, it does.)
    Why it’s being suppressed demands an explanation!

    One major “scam” or “conspiracy” is that of how and why the tech giants suppress information they think shouldn’t be public. Who are they do decide that?! That is vigilantism, and can legitimately be called those names. It is outrageous, not only that they are doing it, but are being allowed to.

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