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Torvill & Dean Skating On Thin Ice

January 3, 2021

By Paul Homewood

Torvill & Dean take the Climategeld!

 

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https://www.itv.com/hub/dancing-on-thin-ice-with-torvill-dean/2a7766a0001

 

In an hour long ITV documentary, Torvill & Dean get whisked off to Alaska to fulfil their long held dream of skating on a lake in the mountains.

Naturally, of course, it is all presented as their last chance before global warming makes it impossible.

Having jetted into Anchorage, they are advised to travel a thousand miles north to Fairbanks, if they want to find any ice. This is all very strange, because the programme starts with them skating on Lake Bonnie (above), which is only just inland from Anchorage!

Evidently, the scenery is not spectacular enough for them there, and stopping there would not fill up an hour of programming anyway.

We then see them taking a 12 hour rail journey to Fairbanks, followed by a helicopter flight to their chosen lake, which has to be cleared of heavy snow. (Yes, I know, you could not make it up!)

 

There is of course the usual whingeing about melting glaciers, but perhaps somebody ought to tell them that Alaskan glaciers began receding in the 18thC:

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https://web.archive.org/web/20160214051639/http://soundwaves.usgs.gov/2001/07/fieldwork2.html

 

Or that, as the glaciers melt, geologists are finding the remains of forests dating back to the Middle Ages and Roman times:

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https://web.archive.org/web/20160313151126/http://juneauempire.com/outdoors/2013-09-13/ancient-trees-emerge-frozen-forest-tomb

 

In short, Alaska is simply returning to its normal climate prior to the Little Ice Age.

 

One of course might question how a flight to Alaska, a 12 hour rail journey and a helicopter ride, all for the whole production team, not just the two skaters, could possibly help fight climate change!

But here’s a much more powerful take away message. Throughout the programme, we meet ordinary Alaskan folk going about their everyday lives, global warming or not. Just how the hell could any of them survive in Alaska without fossil fuels?

Solar panels? Not in winter. Wind turbines, which would freeze up for months on end?

But, heh, skating on a lake is much more important than the lives of 730,000 people!

36 Comments
  1. 2hmp permalink
    January 3, 2021 10:43 am

    Your comments are exactly as I felt watching the programme. How gullible are celebrities to the utter tripe spoken by commentators. I suppose you cannot blame them for an opportunity to earn but at least they should appraise themselves of the facts.

  2. JimW permalink
    January 3, 2021 10:47 am

    Interesting read across to covid/lockdown sceptics. They finally realise that they are in minority, the majority aren’t interested in facts or loss of liberty, they are influenced by safety, security and following the communal morals which are based on emotions, easily influenced by govt/media psyops. The same is true of climate change. The same controlling group who have felt threatened by the last 4 years of brexit/Trump etc are in hyperdrive, its their payback time.

  3. Harry Passfield permalink
    January 3, 2021 10:58 am

    The part that gave me the biggest laugh was the glacier park ranger who was taking them across a glacier and complaining that it was much smaller now. After all, he said, he’d been there ten years and knew that global warming was making a difference: “it’s all the carbon” he said!! A Nobel awaits that man!

    • yonason permalink
      January 3, 2021 5:27 pm

      I wonder how much they paid him, and how long it took him to memorize that script.

    • January 3, 2021 10:48 pm

      The ‘carbon’ can be captured for $400 a ton, this report says, but “In recent years, we’ve emitted 40 gigatons”.

      https://www.space.com/can-carbon-removal-slow-climate-change.html

      Covid-ravaged national budgets have no chance of doing much, if any, of that. Next fantasy!

  4. January 3, 2021 11:03 am

    Fighting climate change just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

    https://wp.me/pTN8Y-5YU

    • dennisambler permalink
      January 3, 2021 1:54 pm

      “I used to be a naturalist before I became a UN salesman to push this climate change thing.”
      Love it! Excellent piece.

  5. Ian Magness permalink
    January 3, 2021 11:34 am

    Starting at one of the glacial outflows, I went to the Alaskan Harding Icefield in 2019 – in mid-summer but with a major icefield’s microclimate, it was seriously cold. The Harding is on the Kenai Peninsula, well south of Anchorage. Watching this, I must therefore have been seeing and feeling an illusion.
    Fairbanks – as a town close to the Arctic Circle and with direct climatic comparisons to the oft-quoted Verkhoyansk in Russia – is an interesting case in point for Arctic/sub-Arctic continental (ie well away from any maritime influences) regions. It achieves temperatures in excess of 30C each and every summer. In winter, however, temperatures regularly dip below -30C, reaching below -40C on occasion. So, that’s a 6-monthly temperature swing of over 70C twice every year. Animal and plant life survives and just compare that to the trivial 1C – 1.5C warming that the Earth’s surface has supposedly had in 150 years. I’m sure most Alaskans would welcome a bit of warming for most of the year!
    It’s little more than 300 miles north of Anchorage, by the way, although roads and “railroads” will be longer due to the terrain. Not 1,000 miles though.

    • Ian Magness permalink
      January 3, 2021 1:21 pm

      PS Just looked up the Spencer Glacier – which they ended-up on having left Fairbanks. In fact it’s SOUTH-EAST of Anchorage on the Kenai Peninsula, again where there wasn’t supposed to be any ice at all.
      The whole programme was such a fake. Poor national treasures Torvill and Dean – hoodwinked.

  6. C Lynch permalink
    January 3, 2021 11:40 am

    Why is anyone surprised at celebrities virtue signalling in the direction of the latest fashionable cause – particularly two washed up has beens like Torville and Dean.

  7. Devoncamel permalink
    January 3, 2021 11:44 am

    Something else on thin ice us the AGW theory.

    • Devoncamel permalink
      January 3, 2021 11:45 am

      ‘IS’ !

  8. January 3, 2021 11:52 am

    Celebrities, ice-skaters and others, tend to find intelligence a contraindication in their line of ‘work’

    • Gerry, England permalink
      January 3, 2021 1:04 pm

      Super-lovie and EMMA winner Emma Thompson is a good example. She is at her best when somebody tells her what to say, how to say it and where to say it.

  9. January 3, 2021 12:12 pm

    Science unless there is some revolutionary new discovery pushing the boundaries in a single leap is quite conservative and rigidly constrained, progressing ever so slowly by those who today stand on the shoulders of giants.

    I have spent my working life considering everything I do with Critical Thinking and constant checking to be as sure as possible to conform to the Scientific Method. There are constant checks and challenges and forensic peer reviews which search out and attack every weakness in the work which is proposed and rightly so.

    On merit only has science, the pursuit of truth progressed.

    It has therefore come as a complete shock to witness the incessant withering barrage of unsupported and so often cretinous claims and assertions we are presented with on a daily basis not by credible scientists who are open of course to challenge but instead by celebrities, unelected heads of public bodies and charities, media presenters and of course troubled teenagers from Sweden all of whom are promoted as the “unquestionable voice of authority and reason”.

    Claims and assertions are presented as fact, scientific facts because some nameless “expert” at best says so. Claims go unchallenged as if they came down from Mount Sanai carved in stone and never are alternative views requested or presented.

    Most offensive of all is that the baseless assertions are given authority and sprinkled with holy climate water at every opportunity with quasi religious nods of the head to the IPCC or some unqualified head of a charity or the feelings of a celebrity with a knowing look and some fatuous reference to the insulting notion of “scientific consensus” or the even more absurd “settled science”.

    Unchecked as it is, this this is dementing and a sure road to madness.

    What kind of 21st Century society which only exists because of the Enlightenment can reach such a point of wilful and collective asininity where it is required that its leaders present themselves to be browbeaten by a strange and troubled teenager from Sweden promoted as the unassailable voice of truth and reason supported by the equally absurd authority of “scientific consensus and settled science”?

  10. Paul weeks permalink
    January 3, 2021 12:33 pm

    This type of programme are so boring when the agenda is propaganda. Luckily we have recently gained access to Netflix so binge watching The Crown has given us a break from indoctrination. When one returns to watch the BBC/ITV it is obvious why ratings are declining.

    • yonason permalink
      January 3, 2021 5:38 pm

      “The Crown” – A Jewish comedian’s perspective…

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      January 3, 2021 7:07 pm

      The Crown is I gather indoctrination of a different kind. It’s just as much fiction, even if it’s more fun.

  11. MrGrimNasty permalink
    January 3, 2021 1:00 pm

    As I mentioned before in respect of this program, I’m afraid ITV is embarking on an aggressive climate change propaganda spree.

    The only bit I saw was them lighting methane from an iced over lake. Of course this looks dramatic but is entirely natural for normal lakes or thermokarst (it’s a similar to the dishonest gaslands/fracking water tap lighting stunt).

    This stunt was in order to promote the old failed and long since disproved Arctic methane monster/bomb causing runaway warming. Obviously the Arctic has been much warmer in the last few thousand years (the Holocene optimum is not controversial) and the thawing permafrost then did not cause the earth to fry!

    • January 3, 2021 1:15 pm

      Holocene Glaciers likely did not exist in Alaska until 5000 years ago and they became much larger during the LIA. They are now melting from that high point

  12. January 3, 2021 1:08 pm

    Using a “green screen” they could skate anywhere in the world using stock footage, and saved the Beebs tax payer Pounds. I’m sure the whole thing was put together by some Wokie Producer trying to escape a boring and fruitless existence.

  13. January 3, 2021 1:20 pm

    Glaciers in Alaska are less than 5000 years old as shown on the Parks own notice boards

    https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2019/09/fact-check-no-the-glaciers-are-not-growing-in-glacier-national-park/

    • January 3, 2021 1:33 pm

      Was it last year that the BBC promoted the absurd notion of a wake for a glacier in Iceland with the ex primate of Ireland jetting in for the circus. Like with all the climate hysteria there are no checks and balances so if you let them talk they will shoot themselves in the foot eventually. They even held a mock funeral procession up to the glacier. The BBC totally overcome with the emotion of the event let it slip that the glacier was 700 years old……They really do not think anymore

      • yonason permalink
        January 3, 2021 5:41 pm

        A thought I had was that after the glacier melted, they would find under it a plaque ,put there by an ancient people to commemorate the last time that area was ice free.

  14. Candyjet permalink
    January 3, 2021 3:33 pm

    If you’d stayed until the end, you’d have seen them preparing the ice using some flame-powered device, no doubt carried thousands of miles.
    The hypocrisy is staggering.

  15. Coeur de Lion permalink
    January 3, 2021 4:27 pm

    There seems to be a sort of climategate frenzy going on at the moment. It can’t last at this intense level. When nothing continues to happen, people will get bored.

  16. jack broughton permalink
    January 3, 2021 4:54 pm

    The advocates of AGW do not care about their dishonesty, they are saving the planet, so a few whoppers are okay. The trouble is that it is all part of the brainwashing of the populace and, unbelievably, there is no counter to this anywhere other than web-sites.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      January 3, 2021 6:14 pm

      Jack, you’re right, they don’t care about dishonesty. If not CC then the US election is up for grabs – sorry, graft. These people are in hock to the Chinese and will do anything to gain their goal.
      NOTE: the one word that is gaining more traction lately is ‘TOGETHER’. It is, IMHO, a UN trigger to get people to think that only a NWO can save them. Listen to the govmnt ads…

  17. Neil Wilkinson permalink
    January 3, 2021 7:19 pm

    Well the scenery was pretty good……..

  18. January 3, 2021 8:43 pm

    More GLobal Warming activism TV
    Sun #1 Countryfile “young activists”
    #2 Attenborough
    Mon #3 Feast to Save the Planet programme
    Wed #4 Wednesday BBC 1 has a 90 minute Greta special

    • January 3, 2021 8:50 pm

      Tonight The Countryfile piece has a brand new piece from Bird Girl founder of Black to Nature
      “I flew up to the Arctic to investigate Climate Change with Greenpeace
      you know it was the second lowest ice *EVER*”

      #1 it wasn’t
      #2 Greenpeace’s ship runs on diesel of course.
      Greenpeace promo tweet
      .. another promo tweet

      The 9pm Monday more preaching
      BBC2 Feast to Save the Planet programme
      Presented by Greg Wallace and Hannah Fry to make it look sciency
      A load of tickbox mates
      Amol Rajan, Nikki Fox
      Comedians Desiree Burch and Sara Pascoe (who is BBC 2 tonight in Georgia)
      promo tweet

      Then 10:45pm Wednesday BBC 1 has a 90 minute Greta special
      (Where they will explain the huge public relations organisation that she’s a front for … /sarc)

      • mjr permalink
        January 4, 2021 4:10 pm

        “Presented by Greg Wallace and Hannah Fry to make it look sciency”
        a gurning greengrocer and a mathematician?. A note she is ex University college and we all know what a reputation that has for reliability. I wonder if she was taught by “500.000” will die modeller Ferguson?

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