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BBC Hype Climate Poll, That Goebbels Would Have Been Proud Of!

January 27, 2021

By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Philip Bratby/Robin Guenier/Vernon E

 

 

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Despite the pandemic, almost two thirds of people around the world now view climate change as a global emergency.

That’s the key finding from the largest opinion poll yet conducted on tackling global warming.

More than a million people in 50 countries took part in the survey, with almost half the participants aged between 14 and 18.

Conserving forests and land emerged as the most popular solution for tackling the issue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55802902

 

I don’t really think we need to read any further!

Half of the participants under 18 years old? Since when did we allow schoolchildren to decide how we run the world?

Worse still, what the BBC forgot to mention is that the poll was conducted by a mobile telephone app, making the results inevitably skewed and worthless.

And this statement sums up how badly informed (and misinformed!) most respondents are:

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Obviously we never use to have wildfires and hurricanes!

As we know, of course, opinion polls can easily be designed to give the results you want, as the Survey Methodology proves:

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https://www.undp.org/content/undp/en/home/librarypage/climate-and-disaster-resilience-/The-Peoples-Climate-Vote-Results.html

 

Mobile gaming networks? Give me a break.

As for the “big question”, you might just as well ask them if Christmas is a good idea.

 

It is meaningless to conduct any poll without putting the questions into perspective. Only last year, the LSE carried out a poll of the British public, finding that a vast majority believed climate change was happening:

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But when asked to rate how concerned they were about it, most people put in last or next to last place, alongside seven other issues:

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 https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/uk-climate-change-views/

 

If the BBC puts such great store in opinion polls, maybe they should abolish the licence fee, which polls consistently show is opposed by a large majority of the British public!

61 Comments
  1. Penda100 permalink
    January 27, 2021 12:05 pm

    As Goebbels knew, a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth. And brother is this lie repeated – endlessly.

    • January 27, 2021 5:11 pm

      And this way everyone can join in. All you need to know about climate science:

  2. Crowcatcher permalink
    January 27, 2021 12:11 pm

    Hhhmmmm! 14 – 18 – all youngsters who’ve been indoctrinated with “Climate Change” and received no education in real science – all very worthy.
    Someone in a post in the last week has reminded us of “Bullshit Bingo” the card fills very quickly these days, far quicker than when I was a BBC employee!!!!!

  3. GeoffB permalink
    January 27, 2021 12:13 pm

    Heres my comment on the article….first time I ever noticed a comments possibility on a BBC article, the guardian is also banging on about it…..

    Depends on the questions….Do you want a planet that uses green energy with no pollution and grows lovely trees with butterflies and birds as well as a few unicorns, Who would not answer YES.
    Do you want intermittent expensive electricity, no gas heating, no air travel, personal transport is a bicycle, live in small windowless rented apartments then the answer is NO.

    • saveenergy permalink
      January 27, 2021 1:43 pm

      Polls are used to mold public opinion, not measure it.
      An example –

    • Hivemind permalink
      January 27, 2021 9:57 pm

      You won’t be allowed a bicycle – they’re made from fossil fuels.

  4. January 27, 2021 12:18 pm

    I thought we already had a climate emergency.
    Why do we need another one?
    https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/12/23/climateemergency/

  5. January 27, 2021 12:26 pm

    Here’s an insider’s report on how to juice the survey numbers:

    https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2018/07/17/the-art-of-rigging-climate-polls/

  6. terryfwall permalink
    January 27, 2021 12:31 pm

    Where to start with these “opinion polls”?

    That the BBC publishes these results under “news-science-environment”?

    That a sample of voluntary responses half of whom are 14-18 is in any way valid, other than as a marketing exercise to sell something to teens?

    That such a sample can be extrapolated to “almost two thirds of people around the world now view climate change as a global emergency.”?

    That the participants in such a survey should be found by advertising on mobile gaming apps?

    That the purpose of the survey was “to find a fun way to send a message to global leaders”?

    That the LSE asks for belief levels in climate change without explaining that they mean “caused by humans”?

    That they deliberately place the item they are measuring at the head of the list of options (and still it comes 7th of 8 choices)?

    That the “most highly educated” (i.e. those most susceptible to accepting the ‘received wisdom’) who believe even more strongly than the average, actually improves their argument?

    Why do the proponents of this South Sea Bubble not realise that every spurious and pathetic argument that is so laughably easy to reject actually weakens their case?

    And why do they not realise that wasting so much time and energy on this one element of a single topic means those efforts are therefore not spent on addressing the vast numbers of ways in which we are despoiling and polluting the planet, where they could be of some genuine use to the future of mankind?

  7. January 27, 2021 12:39 pm

    Really? I have an image of a UN poll taken a few years back, with 7,679,273 respondents, in which “climate change” ranked LOWEST in importance after 15 other categories. Sadly I can’t post it here

    • Robin Guenier permalink
      January 27, 2021 12:55 pm

      See my post below.

  8. Beagle permalink
    January 27, 2021 12:47 pm

    It reminds me of a US FEMALE TV presenter. Her kids came home from school and said they had been told about Climate change and they were very worried and we must something about it. Mum agreed and later in the evening she said to the kids, OK time for bed. They said it’s too early, to which mum replied well you have to get up early so you can walk to school if you want to help the planet. That was the end of their commitment to the ’emergency’.

  9. Robin Guenier permalink
    January 27, 2021 12:54 pm

    As is clear from the Methodology, this is another hopelessly misleading one issue survey. As well as that LSE poll, it’s instructive to compare it with the UN ‘My World’ survey that’s mysteriously been discontinued. The last findings are no longer available, but here’s a screenshot of the result to November 2018 (at nearly 10 million responses): https://postimg.cc/ZCx8bL36. Click on ‘Download original image’ (and then expand for a better view of the detail). You’ll see that, when people are asked what issues most concern them, climate change appears last (of sixteen issues).

    This unsurprising finding was confirmed by a recent University of Warwick survey that revealed “climate-change complacency” across Europe: https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2020/09/17/research-reveals-climate-change-complacency-across-europe/ Unsurprisingly, people thought issues such as health, social security, prices, the economy and unemployment more important – with only 16% citing climate/environment/energy as a major concern. Had climate been specified on its own, I’m sure it would have been attracted even less concern.

    One other issue: India is one of the countries surveyed. Yet India has a population of 1.3 billion of whom 1 billion are desperately poor. I wonder how many of those play Angry Birds? This applies to at least half the countries surveyed.

    • Mad Mike permalink
      January 27, 2021 2:50 pm

      I think I’ve mentioned before but I went out canvassing for 9 days during the last election and not one person mentioned CC.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      January 27, 2021 2:58 pm

      Robin: And in the post-pandemic recovery – which could take 10-20 years (think how long the smaller 2008 crash has taken to work through) – I wonder what priority the general public will put on going green and changing the weather.

      (I’ve now decided that ‘climate-change’ – as these fools like to think of it – can only be achieved by changing the weather for thirty years).

      • Robin Guenier permalink
        January 27, 2021 3:09 pm

        The trouble is Harry that, because we’re hosting COP-26 in November and because we’re desperate to get on with Biden, we’re inescapably locked into all this. Perhaps – just perhaps – when the outcome of COP-16 makes it clear that most of the non-Western world isn’t particularly interested in cutting emissions, the Government will rethink the issue. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

      • A C Osborn permalink
        January 27, 2021 4:09 pm

        Of course not, they will want to “lead the world”, “show them how it is done” and any other jingoistic nonsense they can come up with.

      • chriskshaw permalink
        January 27, 2021 6:13 pm

        The scary thing is that Biden will be wanting to show off and double down… and others will wish to flatter and will follow his lead. I am pessimistic and see a large hole looming that will shortly be siphoning $$ from my pocket (I write from Houston). And impacting my life in all kinds of horrific ways. I need to move to an area with houses with a larger yard and learn how to grow veggies. Absolutely baffling, I prefer going to the store/shops.

      • Robin Guenier permalink
        January 27, 2021 8:53 pm

        others will wish to flatter and will follow his lead.

        But not I think China, India, Iran, Russia, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Brazil …

    • January 27, 2021 4:05 pm

      @ Robin, it has been replace by Myworld2030. I’ve just filled it in. https://myworld2030.org/

      • Robin Guenier permalink
        January 27, 2021 5:01 pm

        Thanks Jit. But it’s very different. For example, one item is ‘affordable and clean energy’. Well, I like ‘affordable’ but I’m suspicious of ‘clean’. Anyway I completed it, pressed ‘submit’ and am still waiting for a spinning disc to stop so that (I hope) I’ll be able to see the overall results.

        I’m still waiting. But no progress.

        Ten minutes later – and I’m still waiting.

      • Robin Guenier permalink
        January 27, 2021 8:22 pm

        Three hours later – and I’m still waiting. Did this happen when you responded?

      • January 27, 2021 8:59 pm

        Nope, it took it right away. A multicoloured spinny thingy for half a second, then “THANK YOU FOR VOTING.” I used Chrome.

      • Robin Guenier permalink
        January 27, 2021 9:01 pm

        Well my spinny thing is still spinning. I used Safari.

      • Robin Guenier permalink
        January 27, 2021 9:07 pm

        I had another try. Same result. Perhaps it’s only happy if you prioritise climate action.

      • January 27, 2021 9:21 pm

        You might be surprised to note that I didn’t pick climate action either!

      • Robin Guenier permalink
        January 28, 2021 7:20 am

        Er, not at all surprised. Can you access the overall results so far?

      • January 28, 2021 8:37 am

        I don’t think so. The thanks page has an opportunity to subscribe. You must enter your email (I did just now). Mobile number is optional – but I can’t proceed just with email (click subscribe and nothing happens).

        Seems to be glitchy all round.

  10. January 27, 2021 1:01 pm

    “Since when did we allow schoolchildren to decide how we run the world?”
    Well, since St. Greta of Thunberg woke up and smelt the co2 (literally according to her mother, we must remember).
    There’s an argument that all polls are self-selective to some extent. But this one takes the biscuit with the tin hat and bells on.
    The BBC has a head of statistics who seems well qualified on paper. I wonder whether he’ll comment on this. Or resign maybe?

  11. olddigger permalink
    January 27, 2021 1:11 pm

    As a keen amateur archaeologist when young, I thought I would like to be buried to be available for future excavation. Now I have left instructions that I am to be cremated so the carbon in my body can be converted to dioxide to help plants grow and thence oxygen for my children and grandchildren. Could not be greener and the gift that keeps giving!

  12. Broadlands permalink
    January 27, 2021 1:17 pm

    “Conserving forests and land emerged as the most popular solution for tackling the issue.”
    Wrong issue?

    Meanwhile…In the US, Mr. Chuck Schumer of the Senate has just made a request to President Joe Biden for the US to declare a climate emergency. Maybe adding a few teenagers to his Cabinet would help John Kerry lower the mean temperature and sea level?

  13. tom0mason permalink
    January 27, 2021 1:20 pm

    The luvies of the BBC displaying the “Echo-Chamber of Dooooooom” (que scary music), and self referencing it’s own poll, proves it to be more popular with the target audience of 14 – 18 year olds than Dr. Who!

    Who bothers to watch the BBC these days. They’re so out of touch with reality.

  14. europeanonion permalink
    January 27, 2021 1:22 pm

    Opinion polls are bunkum. The setter invariably uses phraseology that is interpretable, in the asking, to favour the sponsor or addresses the issues that no one has any issues with. The BBC’s current questionnaire is of this type. A broad stroke ‘do you listen to BBC radio’, can mean you listen to our entire content without questioning not, you only listen to their one channel which has no political comment, Radio4Extra (although they just can’t resist issuing a warning before airing particular archives referring to dated attitudes and language. In all other respects the listener has the power or the choice to switch off. Without little niggles such as the use of ‘modern era’ and the reporting of ‘Winterval’, Radfio4Extra is a haven of representation.

    How odd that these dated attitudes or language cause sniffiness when they deploy propaganda without so much as a blush. Paul has caught them out so many times (but changed nothing). McGrath is that man who could aver, “I became so popular as to become unknown even unto myself”. One wonders if the common editorial policy of the BBC, the many minority and scrupulously inconsequential items they have to consider, leads to inattention. As long as their departments originate copy and get a tick that is sufficient.

    That you get a number of the misinformed and lied to, answering carefully phrased questions, only gives us an idea of how many people they have duped. I suppose that is the only real metric that is significant. We see what an enormous job it is to propagate facts, especially when matter are shoved through the mesh of BBC censorship. And it is censorship. It applies most obviously to climate where coercion suits the sensibilities behind all this hokum at the BBC. When we know as a fact that the head of BBC news had all her staffers in and forbade them to proclaim any other ‘truth’ than that is adopted by the BBC on climate, we have a stark reminder. If the same pattern is repeated throughout the BBC’s output you end up in a world of smoke and mirrors pandering to the certainties that the BBC relies on to the exception of revision, discovery and misdirection.

  15. Gamecock permalink
    January 27, 2021 1:35 pm

    BBC: There is a climate emergency.

    BBC survey: Do you think there is a climate emergency?

    BBC headline: PEOPLE THINK THERE IS A CLIMATE EMERGENCY !!!

  16. Barbara permalink
    January 27, 2021 1:46 pm

    ‘Britons are world’s most concerned by climate change’ – this is the headline in today’s Daily Telegraph clearly reporting the same press release that the BBC has taken up. The piece concludes: Richard Black, senior associate at the non-profit think tank the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit, said of the survey: “This shows that ministers have a social licence to enact policies in the coming months that will put the UK on track to its net zero target.” ‘Social Licence’ that’s a new one on me.

    • January 27, 2021 4:07 pm

      And if the next question on the quiz was “do you like doing homework?” then the government would have a social license to get rid of homework?

  17. dennisambler permalink
    January 27, 2021 1:50 pm

    The climate bunkum is fed out on a 24 hour news cycle and then harvested back as “public opinion”.

  18. January 27, 2021 2:40 pm

    What motifies the BBC so to breach its Charter re bias?
    How much of that depends on the newspapers advertising for, said to be the Grauniad and its fellow travellers?
    Would it be possible to clear out these Augean stables of bias and who could do it?

    -can anyone suggest answers?

    • January 27, 2021 3:52 pm

      What “Motivates” the BBC, not as written above-sorry, but the Corporation should be mortified!

  19. January 27, 2021 2:53 pm

    A voodoo poll if ever there was one. If this had shown the reverse, the BBC would have been quick to claim it was rubbish. Assuming they ever mentioned it of course

  20. January 27, 2021 3:13 pm

    Surely Mobile phones, laptops, tablets, streaming, cloud storage, gaming, are all part of the fastest growing source iof co2 emission and exceeds air travel? Quite apart from the dubious provenance as to how the materials for these devices are mined and processed

  21. Broadlands permalink
    January 27, 2021 3:21 pm

    Joe Biden will be signing it today: “The executive actions include establishing climate change as a national security priority, conserving at least 30% of federal land and oceans by 2030 and canceling new oil and gas leases on public lands and waters.”

    How that will lower the planet’s temperature (or sea level) remains to be explained, never mind the costs or the time involved. By 2050?

    • January 27, 2021 3:55 pm

      Biden will do a lot more damage to the US than ever did Donald T., despite the latter’s serious faults, mark my words!

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      January 27, 2021 6:19 pm

      Joe has just used an Executive Order (FFS!) to outlaw the use of the term, ‘Chinese Virus’.
      Like all titalitarians he thinks that if he orders it, it shall be so.
      He needs to read up on the fate of Ceausescu.

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        January 27, 2021 6:20 pm

        Spoonerism alert!

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        January 27, 2021 6:21 pm

        OK. Not quite Spooner…

      • terryfwall permalink
        January 27, 2021 7:41 pm

        More Mrs Malaprop!

  22. January 27, 2021 3:23 pm

    The report I heard stated the the survey was conducted in association with Oxford University. Let’s hope this was a lie.

    • Robin Guenier permalink
      January 27, 2021 3:33 pm

      It was carried out by the University of Oxford Department of Sociology.

      • January 27, 2021 4:09 pm

        Jesus!

      • Russ Wood permalink
        January 30, 2021 12:01 pm

        I’m reminded of the Thomas Sowell comment: “Next time an academic lectures you on the importance of diversity, ask him how many conservatives there are in his Sociology department”.

  23. REM permalink
    January 27, 2021 4:23 pm

    Wow! A million people around the world view climate change as a global emergency. So 7,800 million don’t.

  24. Vernon E permalink
    January 27, 2021 4:26 pm

    All the above explained by studying Agenda 21 (now rebranded Agenda 30). With the likes of the Rockefellers funding all these NGOs what chance do we have? Its as good as all over bar the paying.

  25. Mad Mike permalink
    January 27, 2021 4:51 pm

    And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you don’t give the vote to the under 18s.

    Personally, I would also exclude anybody who works for the BBC but you can’t have everything.

  26. January 27, 2021 10:06 pm

    The survey was distributed via mobile gaming apps? Give me a break! I would guess that the largest proportion of users would therefore be youngsters – already indoctrinated through their more-recent education than say those of us with better things to do with our lives. Hence, I did not see this so-called survey.

  27. January 28, 2021 11:24 am

    The BBC is off on another pitiful climate alarm promo today…

    The foods that reverse climate change
    https://www.bbc.com/future/bespoke/follow-the-food/the-foods-that-reverse-climate-change/

    Sample: Overseeing the cow’s welfare is Mette Nielsen, a professor in animal sciences at Aarhus University, who explains the purpose of Daisy’s confinement. Inside the box, every burp, belch and gaseous emission can be measured. Cows’ burps are rich in methane, a greenhouse gas, and only by recording them in this way can we start to unravel how to mitigate the damage livestock farming can do to the climate.

    • Broadlands permalink
      January 29, 2021 1:14 am

      “…only by recording them in this way can we start to unravel how to mitigate the damage livestock farming can do to the climate.”

      And your answer is?? Eat more vegetation that sequesters CO2 and provides energy for humans to do the same as all other animals? Eat vegetation that makes ethanol for those biofuels that you put into your car or truck. Peculiar reasoning Professor Nielsen.

  28. January 28, 2021 7:58 pm

    You ask “since when did we allow schoolchildren to run the world?” The answer is when the United Nations allowed a high school drop-out to tell them what to do.

  29. Huw T permalink
    January 28, 2021 8:27 pm

    Wouldn’t it be nice if we woke up one morning and the BBC was gone? We must live in hope.

    • January 28, 2021 9:54 pm

      The BBC and all the lefty press represent a bias emergency.
      Whereas paying for the print media is optional, the BBC infringes the Charter while one is compelled to pay for BBC .TV.
      An excess of conservatism.

  30. Broadlands permalink
    January 29, 2021 1:41 am

    “burps are rich in methane, a greenhouse gas, and only by recording them in this way can we start to unravel how to mitigate the damage livestock farming can do to the climate.”

    Livestock, like all other vertebrate animals in the end need vegetation to live. And they all burp and fart. Vegetation sequesters CO2. If we are supposed to eat more vegetation instead of meat, and plant more for biofuel ethanol, where is the saving to mitigate climate?

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