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And so it begins: UK Government mulls emergency measures that would enable networks to switch off your electricity without warning or compensation

February 7, 2021

By Paul Homewood

 

 

You have been warned!

 

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A series of ‘modifications’ to the Smart Energy Code have been proposed by officials and look set to pass into law by next spring.

These include giving networks the right to decide when they consider the grid to be in a state of ’emergency’ and the power to switch off high usage electrical devices  such as electric vehicle chargers and central heating systems in British homes.

Under the plans all homes would need to have a third generation smart meter installed, to include a function that allows meters in the home to receive and carry out orders made by the energy networks.  

This would dramatically alter the role of smart meters, which are currently capable  only of sending data on energy use to energy networks. 

If passed unchallenged, these ‘modifications’ to the law would mean that electric vehicle owners could plug in at the end of the day and wake up without sufficient charge to travel the next morning.

Similarly, central heating systems could be turned off in homes across a whole area if too many electric vehicles are plugged in to charge at once, for example.

Currently, consumers are entitled to compensation if their power supply is cut off, but under these plans, this recompense would likely be scrapped.

There is also a question mark over whether to force households to install the new smart meters, or make it an opt in or opt out scheme.

When energy networks are allowed to declare an ’emergency’, triggering their right to switch off private domestic energy devices, is also so far undefined.

The modifications, tabled by Richard Hartshorn of Scottish and Southern Electricity earlier this summer, argue that networks must be given these powers if major power cuts are to be avoided as the UK switches from fossil fuels to renewable energy sources. 

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73 Comments
  1. JimW permalink
    February 7, 2021 3:53 pm

    Inevitable. Doesn’t help when the journo just gets silly response from some dunce at Octopus.

    • saparonia permalink
      February 8, 2021 8:49 am

      I’ve been with Octopus for a few years. My bills are lower than they were with the scamming Scottish Power who actually charged me for a non-existing extra meter that I took to a tribunal and won. Octopus have been great. I don’t have any affiliation with them except for being a customer.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        February 8, 2021 3:06 pm

        I very much doubt that Octopus are the cheapest supplier, not with all those TV ads to pay for plugging their Which? rating where cost only plays a small part.

      • saparonia permalink
        February 9, 2021 8:27 pm

        No you are probably right, but I appreciate them, they are a lot cheaper than I was paying before, and their customer service is very good.
        Also, although I’m not a green basher, the tarriff I’m on is for their green energy. I don’t watch TV at all, chucked it out years ago and can’t comment about that.
        If we do need coal, which we probably will if this is going to be a super grand solar minimum, we ought to clean up the pits and get them working again before the cold really sets in, even if it’s for back-up or there won’t be a tree left standing in England.

  2. Broadlands permalink
    February 7, 2021 4:08 pm

    How many straws are left to place on this camel’s back before the stakeholders get seriously angry at the leaders?

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      February 7, 2021 4:28 pm

      Tonnes (sorry it’s back to Tons now !); everyone complains but few fight, so the glorious leaders carry on unabated.

  3. February 7, 2021 4:19 pm

    So let me get this right. We all have to switch from gas, oil or solid fuel heating to electric, and petrol/diesel cars ditto, but because these are such high usage they can be turned off whenever the need arises. Does this also apply to public car chargers? Don’t fancy being caught with a low car battery miles from home and no chargers (not that I plan on getting an EV). Not keen on no heating,cooking either.
    Bad enough being increasingly reliant on intermittent and unreliable renewables. Freezing up here with little or no wind and sun for days.
    My new slogan again applies – was it “Thought Through Thoroughly”? Actually not thought through at all – obviously.

    • February 8, 2021 10:55 am

      The energy presently supplied to gas boilers dwarfs the energy sent as electricity. Once the gas boilers are forcibly removed, we will need a grid that is conservatively 2.5 times larger than now, and even then it will not be able to cope with times of high demand.

      So we put in place policies to make the grid less stable, and then use the lack of stability to justify curtailing people’s electricity when they need it most. A great scheme.

  4. Michael Jane permalink
    February 7, 2021 4:22 pm

    Please can I implore everyone reading this to write to all their nearby MPs and local councillors and ask them where they stand on this and to seek their assurances that they will take a stand against any attempt to bring this into force.
    The zero Carbon activists are now so well organised that unless people start to oppose them now it will soon be too late.
    In Exeter a whole raft of roads have been made one way, including a major road leading to the hospital, without any consultation, forcing those who live nearby into longer journey when travelling to and fro their homes. The local activists are extremely well organised and have already send out a consultation paper where they tell us 80% of locals are in favour of changes which favour pedestrians and cyclists- as we all know, if you word these where consultation papers carefully enough, you can make them prove anything. One option which was not on the paper was to scrap the changes completely and return to the status quo.
    It won’t be long before only electric cars will be allowed on the road and no doubt the police will be given powers to stop and fine anyone transgressing the rules- although I can empathise with the need to observe COVID restrictions, the additional powers given to the police is just the beginning of what we could have forced upon us in future.

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      February 7, 2021 6:38 pm

      The Covid Lockdown and restrictions have proved that the public can
      1. Be terrified into submission by big number
      2. They will happily give up rights and freedoms in order to remain safe
      3. Will give up rights to see family and friends to stay safe
      4. Never ask difficult questions like why do we have to protect the NHS when a not exceptionally deadly disease arrives
      5 Doesn’t ask the question how did we get to this state, of having 80K fewer NHS beds than 20 years ago

      Politicians now know they are dealing with a supine populace willing to give up everything without protest

      • StephenP permalink
        February 7, 2021 7:56 pm

        This brings to mind H.L.Mencken’s quote:
        The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.

    • LeedsChris permalink
      February 7, 2021 6:45 pm

      I know what you mean. It’s the same extremists in our city. There appear to be no politicians now willing to stand up fro common sense and insanity is off the charts. I tried completing one of our Council’s online questionnaires about the future (anti car) transport strategy and it was impossible to find where to indicate disagreement. The classic was where one question only allowed you to agree that the proposals were ‘too ambitious’, ‘about right’ or ‘too cautious’, whereas I wanted to say ‘there is no way, these proposals are insane’. We are now headed into madness and I think the only way this will stop is for things to actually collapse into a full energy crisis.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      February 7, 2021 11:29 pm

      Hi Michael, there is a civil disobedience option that we could take. Scroll down this thread to my other post and I outline it there.

    • Gamecock permalink
      February 8, 2021 12:20 pm

      Empires die from decadence. The people are too prosperous to fight; they have too much to lose.

      They hope against hope that the alligator will eat them last.

  5. 1saveenergy permalink
    February 7, 2021 4:23 pm

    Don’t like to say ‘I told you so’ … but … I TOLD YOU SO !!

  6. Dave Andrews permalink
    February 7, 2021 4:37 pm

    Paul, off topic but have you seen this “Europe’s Unforeseen Renewables Problem” at

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Gene…opes-Unforeseen-Renewables-Problem.html

  7. Penda100 permalink
    February 7, 2021 4:44 pm

    I think that only a national political party can bring this debate into the open. A national party can force the BBC to give it air-time so as to maintain its tarnished obligation to provide “balance” in its reporting. All of the existing parties seem totally committed to the green lunacy so only a new party or Farage’s reform Party can pick this up. Until this happens we will be talking to ourselves or shouting into a force 10 gale.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      February 7, 2021 5:54 pm

      If the BBC can supress ANY talk of the ‘steal’ in the US they can do the same to any contra-AGW talk here. The BBC – our national broadcaster – is not our friend.

      • Duker permalink
        February 7, 2021 9:29 pm

        There was no ‘steal’ , even Trumps Attorney General said so, along with the major republican election officials in the swing states. Its a fantasy.
        The type of voting machines is represented here, which shows touch screen with the printed ballot it produces for the voter to check the choices made.
        Paper ballots produced when recounted manually or rescanned were within normal ( minor) variations like all elections

      • February 7, 2021 9:32 pm

        It never was? And with the current lot of clowns, it never will be. And we are headed for a totaliterion state.

      • Chilli permalink
        February 8, 2021 2:29 am

        Duker, there was no Russia Collusion either – but that didn’t stop every major news outlet pushing ridiculous Russia conspiracy theories for the last 4 years. See the difference in reporting standards? Anyhow – quite apart from the voting machines claims, anyone who watched the coverage on election night would have seen enough funny stuff to raise legitimate suspicions. Last minute changes to voting rules allowing millions of unsolicited mail-in ballots to be sent out. Official observers being blocked from entering polling stations in Democrat cities, Windows being covered at the counts to prevent observers seeing what was going, Project Veritas videos of Democrat operatives driving around harvesting unsolicited mail in ballots by the thousand. Counts being suspended at midnight when Trump was comfortably ahead, then resumed the next day when mystery batches of thousands of Biden votes were conveniently found. Then the disconnect between the results in bell-weather states and the swing states the Biden needed to win. Not to mention Biden’s Freudian slip where he admitted he had “the most extensive voter fraud operation in history”.

      • Duker permalink
        February 8, 2021 3:32 am

        Yes, the Russia collusion was minor – they definitely did hack the DNC email system. And various Russian operatives did give Trumps campaign a heads up. Personally the US system is awash in advertising and news coverage and wouldnt make much effect. Trump just had a better back story and message and made the most of it.
        The reason for the investigation was foreign interference or money is a crime, and the whole thing , apart from boring me to death, produced a string of guilty pleas and convictions and a mysterious Individual X!

        However NO DEMS were saying the election was stolen, or disputed the narrow win in the Electoral college. Trump was meeting Obama in the WH by the weekend after the election day…and when did Trump meet Biden ? still hasnt. The only issue raised in Congress was a small thing about voting access, no one in Congress was saying Clinton won. They were miffed she won the national vote tally and that was that. Trump of course said he won the nationwide vote in 2016 and set up an enquiry to show this..they disbanded after 18 months with nothing.

        As for the election night vote count, countless court cases were raised in front of judges who found the claimants were dreaming and made baseless claims, every. single. one. These states had republicans who supported Trump and they like Trumps attorney general all said the vote count was pretty fair and Biden won.

        Thats the trouble with your video..you are hoodwinked by a narrative that bears no relation to what happened. Was there a single court case in any single county where what you claim was substantiated ? Of course not.
        The story about votes being suspended at midnight is hogwash …it was Trump himself who wanted the vote counting to STOP that night , his twitter was very busy if you look it up. In my country too the intial votes favour one party and later votes favour a different one. Has always happened like that in US elections too.
        The only proof of vote meddling was the recorded message of Trump himself asking the Georgia state election official ‘to find 12,000 votes’…he got turned down.
        That wasnt the only state where Trump intervened personally but those officials arent saying what he wanted.
        Trump had an amazing campaign style and reached his target audience, but hes a complete clown in the job and in the end the 30% of the voting age population who voted for him wasnt enough and Biden, a rather wooden politician got a lot more votes and this time in the right states

      • February 8, 2021 10:02 am

        The “Russian collusion” was not minor, there was no “collusion” at all

      • Gerry, England permalink
        February 8, 2021 3:16 pm

        The Russians didn’t have a chance to collude as the Chinese beat them too it. If duker wasn’t a Democrat his eyes would be open to the evidence that has been posted despite the left-wing censorship by the tech giants. All we get is ‘it didn’t happen’ but with no evidence to prove why.

      • Duker permalink
        February 8, 2021 9:45 pm

        ” Guilty pleas, indictments abound in Trump-Russia probe”
        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-cases-factbox-idUSKCN1QG27V
        How many guilty pleas and indictments about China. Trump has been under the eye of eastern block intelligence since his marriage to Ivana Zelnickova and he was enamoured with Putin.

        These are actual court cases , not left wing media. As I said that sort of activity is a crime in US, even Flynn was sacked for his back room dealings – by Trump.
        Collusion doesnt mean Trump ‘stole the 2016 election’ , he won as was accepted by the media and the Democrats.
        Trumps problem now is incitement not collusion

  8. Lee Scott permalink
    February 7, 2021 4:44 pm

    Technology like this is coming whether the grid is powered by renewables or not. As more and more and more reliance is placed on electricity rather than gas and oil to heat homes, provide hot water, cook, and charge our electric cars, the more the existing infrastructure will be stressed to keep everyone supplied.

    Unless every home is upgraded from 50 or 100 amp service to 200 amp, there simply won’t be enough capacity inside the home itself to power everything without some kind of load-shedding device at the meter to prioritize which appliances get to operate now and which have to wait their turn. Having the water heater wait a few minutes until the furnace is done warming the house is almost unnoticeable.

    The technology to do it at the home and business has been around for years. What will be different is giving that ability to the power company to do it remotely.

    • Gray permalink
      February 7, 2021 4:48 pm

      How does a smart meter connect to individual appliances?

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        February 7, 2021 5:59 pm

        Smart appliances can be contacted by power suppliers via the web to turn them off. They already figure that’s what to do with car chargers that are taking too much.

      • February 7, 2021 9:21 pm

        I don’t think it can be, surely it can only measure the overall amount of electricity by duration and wattage entering a building?

      • Duker permalink
        February 8, 2021 3:55 am

        “Smart appliances can be contacted by power suppliers via the web to turn them off.”
        Doesnt work like that, you need a ‘smart appliance’ and you have to have it linked to the smart meter. Almost no one has a such appliances.
        I have electric hot water heating , its been controlled by power company since the 1950s- it was called ripple control as signals can be sent over tthe top of the 50 Hz frequency of the power itself. Im happy to pay a reduced rate , small, to let them do this, If I dont want this a different tarrif is applied and they dont.
        As I have plenty of hot water storage compared to the amount used, I never notice it ‘off’ – mostly winter evening peaks, of course it would come on later in evening and catch up .
        Remember the reason electricity is controlled like this for decades before global warming was invented is it must be produced virtually at the same time its used up. Most countries that control electric hotwater like this have done so long before even Margret Thatcher herself was raising the global warming issue in the 70s

      • I don't believe it! permalink
        February 8, 2021 8:28 pm

        Smart meters don’t have the ability to be selectively controlled hence the need for Smart Three which would probably mean fuse box alterations or ,more likely,smart controls on certain circuits
        Ps Any body else see that Ambrose has gone nuclear in the Telegraph.
        It’s hilarious

    • February 7, 2021 5:31 pm

      We have this system in Spain. When you are connected, you specify your ‘potentia’, that is, how much maximum power you will draw. You pay according to the potentia, the higher it is, the more you pay. We run at 2.5Kwh and if we go above that, for example, while switching on the kettle while the oven and dryer is on, the main switch trips and you have to turn something off and reset the switch. We did have quite a juggling problem during the cold spell when we were using freestanding heaters and had to turn one off before cooking!

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      February 7, 2021 7:10 pm

      “Technology like this is coming whether the grid is powered by renewables or not.”

      The switching from GCH to electric and ICE to electric IS part of the renewables policy. So no, it wouldn’t be necessary regardless.

    • geoffb permalink
      February 7, 2021 7:11 pm

      Point 1. Three phase will be needed in the home to meet the future electricity needs, The wiring is more or less in place (every third house is connected to the same phase) but it is unlikely to have the capacity to meet the new demand. Its 415V phase to phase so considered a bit dangerous.
      Point 2. Existing smart meters are not actually smart enough, the new idea is the Internet of Things (IOT) Each appliance has a bluetooth receiver connected to a solid state relay which can switch it on and off as commanded by “Big Brother”. Thus your freezer can be switched off for an hour, your air heat pump off for an hour hoping you do not notice. USA use a medium radio system to switch air conditioners off for an hour or two in the summer on rotation. Easily bypassed by the knowledgeable. (aluminium foil makes good screening)

      • Duker permalink
        February 8, 2021 3:58 am

        Interesting , what state is where they switch off by way of MW radio signals ?

      • I don't believe it! permalink
        February 8, 2021 8:37 pm

        Geoff, that’s the theory but not necessarily what actually happens on additions to existing supplies. I did a few courses with guys that did the wiring and I asked how they knew which phase to use. They didn’t, they guessed. However if the entire supply was going 3 phase that wouldn’t be a problem. Apart from having to run the other two phases in

    • February 7, 2021 7:28 pm

      surely we have the direct equivalent with such as microsoft who under the guise of updates reach into our computer and reorganise it often leaving things looking different, in different laces or no longer operable.

  9. Gray permalink
    February 7, 2021 4:45 pm

    When I said I was surprised that somebody had arrived to come into my house to read a meter during lockdown, he replied that he had to read all the meters, even the smart ones to check they were recording correctly.
    Says it all really.

    • Nancy & John Hultquist permalink
      February 7, 2021 7:09 pm

      We are in central Washington, USA.
      The provider uses an airplane.
      Once a month they fly over, get a reading,
      and soon a bill arrives.
      I expect there will be a switch to a non-pilot (drone).
      The reader used to use binoculars; saved time walking
      and opening gates.
      John

  10. ianprsy permalink
    February 7, 2021 5:22 pm

    Trying to force smart meters on people will hopefully result in resistance that makes the BBC licence revolt look like a vote of confidence. I’m glad to say that I’m safe for the time being as my small energy supplier (just re-signed) can’t cope with them

  11. John Palmer permalink
    February 7, 2021 5:50 pm

    We all realised that this was the real goal of ‘smart’ metering years ago, didn’t we.
    Tonight there’s a surprisingly modest – given the temperature etc., electricity demand of about 42GW and it’s blowing a hooley all over UK. The ‘Saudi Arabia of wind’ is contributing less than 30% of requirements leaving CCGT and nuclear to do the heavy lifting. Says it all, really.
    Lunatics running the asylum.

    • February 7, 2021 9:37 pm

      Of course, once the “smart” idea got in their little tiny minds was how much can we steal from the Public?

  12. MikeHig permalink
    February 7, 2021 6:37 pm

    There’s something slightly odd about this article. It says that “third generation” smart meters will have to be installed everywhere to facilitate this control function over EV charging. However, from what I have read on EV forums, most EV chargers are already “smart”. Indeed their capability forms part of the “smart grid” concept whereby the mass of EVs could serve as buffer storage (basically one of David McKay’s ideas in “Sustainable Energy without the Hot Air”).
    Has anyone come across any corroboration of the claims the Mail Online makes in this article?

    • Nancy & John Hultquist permalink
      February 7, 2021 7:12 pm

      Can they force you to leave your EV plugged in?
      Just saying!

      • February 8, 2021 10:43 am

        Of course, once their cars are brimmed, folks will unplug them. Seems entirely rational. (However, they may be denied power until 2 am or something.)

        I suppose in reality it is unlikely that people will wake up to flat car batteries, because in the middle of the night the electricity demand will be lower. The key thing would be to avoid plugging it in until bedtime, so that no juice gets sucked out in the evening peak.

    • GeoffB permalink
      February 7, 2021 7:16 pm

      It would need an inverter(like solar panels have) to convert the dc battery to ac 240V, is that in the EV charging structure now in the home? I doubt it.

  13. billbedford permalink
    February 7, 2021 6:47 pm

    Seems to me that someone is going to make a killing selling diesel/petrol generators to the middle classes.

    • February 7, 2021 6:53 pm

      I’ve already got my generator. It runs on propane.

      • Gray permalink
        February 7, 2021 7:00 pm

        Think they’re going to let you buy propane?

      • John permalink
        February 7, 2021 11:00 pm

        Build a wall around it

  14. Cheshire Red permalink
    February 7, 2021 7:08 pm

    Keeping the lights on is a fundamental obligation of government. Failure to fulfil this obligation is not acceptable in any way. No excuses whatsoever.

    If we have extended power cuts due to government policy, those responsible (ie 15 years of energy secretaries, PM’s and climate activists) deserve to be held fully to account.

    • February 7, 2021 7:50 pm

      Back in the day they would get voted out, as per the Heath government. But now the alternative parties all whistle the same absurd climate/energy tune.

    • Nancy & John Hultquist permalink
      February 7, 2021 8:25 pm

      “Keeping the lights on is a fundamental obligation of government.”

      This seems to be true only for developed countries. Even then, this
      has been a slowly developed situation. Historically, at least in the USA,
      a person or group would start a system with the intention of making money.
      These were often sold to an official agency (city or such) as the need
      for electricty grew. Large regional grids were nonexistent.

    • February 8, 2021 3:36 pm

      And they will be.
      The green train will come off the tracks, when people up and down the land, sitting in there freezing homes, realise they have been duped.
      The next time they go out to vote it won’t be for more of the same.

  15. Neil Turner permalink
    February 7, 2021 8:35 pm

    I have a heart condition which required fitting an implanted cardio defibrillator in my chest. If my heart goes too fast it intervenes with shock therapy.
    It connects wirelessly to a phone dongle which sends data to the hospital. If Ive had an episode, which I may or may not be aware of, I getna call PDQ from the cardiac unit at the hospital.
    If they switch off my electric, the dongle loses power, so no warning.
    My premature death due to power saving will make a great headline for the Daily Mail.

    • Duker permalink
      February 7, 2021 9:39 pm

      Smart phone or tablet connections are available.
      Anyway the standard phone line doesnt use domestic power they have their own at the phone network -plus battery backup

      • Dave Ward permalink
        February 8, 2021 2:16 pm

        “Anyway the standard phone line doesn’t use domestic power they have their own at the phone network – plus battery backup”

        That may be true (at the moment), but fewer & fewer customers have landline phones these days, and many telecos are planning to convert standard phone lines to VOIP. This will instantly remove the back up provided with present systems, since each customer will need a mains powered digital to analogue converter in their house. They may contain a battery back-up, but these rarely last for more than a few hours, and will take time to fully re-charge when (if!) the mains comes back on. And don’t assume your “Smart Phone” will come to the rescue – mobile networks also rely on mains power at the mast sites, hardly any of which have generators, and they will only last as long as the batteries hold a charge…

      • Duker permalink
        February 8, 2021 9:59 pm

        Thats why cellular networks will replace fixed wire or fiber optic lines.
        My older brother has a small digital ‘finger pad ‘pad that can connect to tablet or phone. It records much more information than just a the monitors described. The data is produced in a clinical useful form by software ( all US FDA approved) which can be sent to a cardiologist. So it can catch those intermittent heart faults that the patient is aware of that usually require a short stay in hospital to observe. Digital medicine is going in leaps and bounds and goodbye to the old POTS network with dumb monitors is a good thing

  16. Dodgy Geezer permalink
    February 7, 2021 8:43 pm

    Too late for Water. The government has just changed the law to make water meters compulsory, and has specified the whole SE of England as a water shortage area.

    There is, of course, no water shortage. There is a shortage of infrastructure. So we are to be rationed. This is the way water has gone, and the way electricity is going. And there was no complaint at all…

    • Tonyb permalink
      February 7, 2021 9:10 pm

      Lack of infrastructure combined with an excess of population. Both easily solved by building more and drastically curtailing immigration.

      • MikeHig permalink
        February 8, 2021 1:57 pm

        Apparently something like 1.5m people have left the UK since the start of the pandemic – 700,000 of those from London. Presumably these were mostly from sectors like hospitality. It may be one reason why unemployment has not surged as much as expected.
        The new rules on immigration will make it hard for a lot of those to return.

  17. February 7, 2021 9:01 pm

    So our conversion to Socialism is virtual complete. The Conservative Party has become so used to being part of a totalitarian State when we left the European Union after so many years they have become so indoctrinated that they have forgotten what freedom and free enterprise is really like. Ever since they were elected this government has lost no opportunity to impose more and more restrictions on the people and of course the Virus emergency has given them an ideal opportunity to exercise without opposition their Socialist agenda.
    When the next General Election comes, if Johnson allows it, I will find it very difficult to vote for him and his fellow Socialists.

  18. Worried permalink
    February 7, 2021 9:51 pm

    In Finland we have water meters too…
    And for the same purpose.

  19. February 7, 2021 9:51 pm

    How will the rich and powerful, including all elected and retired politicos avoid this mad violation of the people’s wellbeing, indeed safet, to no useful purpose.?

    A French revolutiion rerun is justified. The CCC, Ed Milliband, Liberals, BBC, Grauniad and
    Greens have richly earned the “chop”, but these are only the most .obvious turds.

  20. Ray Sanders permalink
    February 7, 2021 10:32 pm

    If anyone is interested I can describe a fairly simple way to highlight this problem in such a way that it would definitely be noticed – though it would probably be illegal!
    Basically the GB grid is now so weak that a relatively small number of households working in synchronised unison at the right time could cause a demand surge well above the Infrequent Infeed Loss Limit that NG allows for.
    50,000 homes could almost instantly add 1200MW of demand and even if the Grid held (extremely unlikely if done at a time of low demand) then the simultaneous “switch off” of that demand would bounce the system beyond frequency limits.
    In reality a smaller amount could achieve the same result if geographically focussed but would likely be much more difficult to organise.
    A bit like the fuel price increase protests back in the early noughties – direct action to stop this green madness. Will it have to come to it?
    If it sounds improbable remember that computer hackers are already working on means to attack grid tie inverters on solar panels to achieve the same end result as this link demonstrates.
    https://horusscenario.com/

  21. John permalink
    February 7, 2021 10:54 pm

    This was predicted and part of the NetZero stupidity, done via SmartMeters or Linky in France. No one voted for this madness.

  22. February 8, 2021 7:30 am

    They have known all along this will not work, the lack of science behind the whole concept of NetZero notwithstanding.

    So let me get this straight. To “combat” an imaginary problem we throw away our energy security and impoverish the most vulnerable in society creating a whole bunch of new problems which never needed to exist. Not only is the population growing thereby increasing the load on a deliberately more and more exposed electricity supply but we add to this by “forcing” more dependency on that increasingly marginal electricity supply. That by the way will just be the beginning.

    Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

    • Penda100 permalink
      February 8, 2021 11:29 am

      Got it in one!

  23. Gamecock permalink
    February 8, 2021 4:38 pm

    This smacks of an act of attainder: they have no right to turn YOU off.

    They can reasonably and legally justify turning an area off. But the switch for that is NOT YOUR METER!

    Turning YOU off is assault.

    DO NOT ACCEPT ANY PLANS THAT USE YOUR METER AS A SWITCH.

  24. Micky R permalink
    February 9, 2021 6:12 pm

    Fuel poverty is already a problem in the UK, leading to deaths. Guardian 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

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