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Miliband Loses His Marbles

February 8, 2021
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By Paul Homewood

There’s a very good article about the proposed Cumbria coal mine by Dominc Lawson today:

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9235143/DOMINIC-LAWSON-sheer-madness-import-coal-essential-steel-industry.html

In it, Lawson refers to Andrew Marr’s interview with the idiot Ed Miliband yesterday:

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Guido covered it nicely here, exposing Miliband’s utter hypocrisy.

At one stage, Marr talks about the lost job opportunities, to which the man who brought you the Climate Change Act responds that “we’ve got to find alternatives”.

I found that segment utterly patronising. How dare he suggest local workers miss out on well paid, highly skilled jobs (and indeed job opportunities and training for youngsters), and instead have to rely on his generous munificence in finding them poorly paid, alternative work, probably miles away.

Miliband actually comes across as quite demented, arguing that we have to set an example for the rest of the world.

The problem is we have already been down that road. The main purpose of his 2008 Climate Change Act was to set an example for others to follow. Unfortunately the rest of the world totally ignored his “example”:

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BP Energy Review

Around the world there are 201 coal power stations under construction, including 92 in China, 30 in India, 24 in Indonesia and 10 in Japan. On top of that another 345 plants are planned:

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https://endcoal.org/tracker/

The idea that any of these power plants will be cancelled, just because we cancel the Cumbria mine, is absurd.

As I’ve commented before, you only have to listen to Ed Miliband to understand how Labour lost its working class base years ago.

45 Comments
  1. February 8, 2021 6:50 pm

    Completely agree with you. Miliband gets more manic on each appearance. It makes me fume the cavalier attitude he has to jobs and future prospects for workers.

  2. David Bains permalink
    February 8, 2021 6:52 pm

    Ed should never have prevented his more capable brother David from becoming Labour Party leader. And as you say the Climate Change Act is a continuing burden!

    • richardw permalink
      February 8, 2021 7:12 pm

      Doesn’t David run Thunderbirds now?

      • dennisambler permalink
        February 9, 2021 9:16 am

        Indeed…
        https://www.rescue-uk.org/david-miliband

        “In 2006, as Secretary of State for the Environment, he pioneered the world’s first legally binding emissions reduction requirements.”

        On the same page as his brother.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      February 8, 2021 7:13 pm

      It was, however, Brother David who bequeathed us an anti-nuclear stance that now leaves us with a big decline in very low carbon reliable power coming up.

      • A man of no rank permalink
        February 9, 2021 3:18 pm

        Quick check to see if I have my Milibands right.
        David brought us the Climate Change Act of 2008. Ed changed the method by which leaders of the Labour Party were chosen.
        Ed will be envious of Dave’s $1m annual pay packet but at least he will be proud of giving us Jeremy Corbyn.

      • February 9, 2021 6:10 pm

        No, Ed was guilty of both!

  3. avro607 permalink
    February 8, 2021 7:02 pm

    I agree with the word that you used above(demented).It really is a scary thought that there are hundreds of MP,s like him.In the Express today where they are even more scary with Green nonsense in full flow.Even a full page given over to Dale Vince.
    An insult to the memory of Lord Beaverbrook.

  4. Robert Christopher permalink
    February 8, 2021 7:06 pm

    More capable, in what way? 🙂

  5. richardw permalink
    February 8, 2021 7:10 pm

    ‘Unreconstructed’ is, I think, in the Miliband genes. His father Ralph was an unreconstructed Marxist to his grave.

    • Tim Spence permalink
      February 8, 2021 7:53 pm

      And the grandfather

    • Martin permalink
      February 8, 2021 8:28 pm

      I always described Milliband pere as one of Lenin’s ‘useful idiots’. Ed followed in his father’s footsteps, but by-passed the useful bit.

      • Duker permalink
        February 8, 2021 9:16 pm

        I see in the 1920s the Miliband family migrated westwards from Warsaw
        ending up in Belgium ( where Ralph was born) rather then eastwards to the new Soviet Union

  6. Robert Christopher permalink
    February 8, 2021 7:13 pm

    I think Ed’s ‘alternatives’ are about jobs:
    “We’ve got to find alternatives for those people …”

    So he isn’t considering why the coal is being produced.

    Maybe he doesn’t know.

    And, it looks like Andrew Marr doesn’t know either, otherwise he would have landed a ‘final punch’, or did the clip miss it off the end?

    Typical Legacy Media, living in a political bubble where STEM is banished!

    • Robert Christopher permalink
      February 8, 2021 7:19 pm

      And Stanley Johnson is in that bubble too!

      Don’t tell me, to get on TV, and to be treated with respect, it’s a prerequisite.

    • Penda100 permalink
      February 8, 2021 10:22 pm

      Perhaps Miliband was talking about getting some alternative people.

    • mjr permalink
      February 8, 2021 10:48 pm

      Marr wouldnt know a testing question if it slapped him in the face with a haddock. And he would definitely not ask anything testing of one of his leftie luvvies .

  7. February 8, 2021 7:19 pm

    He’s not known as Ed Minibrain for nothing.

  8. Brian Smith permalink
    February 8, 2021 7:31 pm

    Going forward, I would like to see our gas cost projections quoted here and elsewhere based on what the price would be free of carbon levies and it we were allowed to frack.

  9. It doesn't add up... permalink
    February 8, 2021 7:38 pm

    As the Cumbrian mine is for coking coal it has zero relevance to thermal power stations. The essential point is that steel is composed of iron and carbon, and coking coal has long been used to provide that carbon and the general reaction conditions for the iron making process. Not mining in Cumbria will result in mining elsewhere, most likely with consequences that are far more polluting and lead to higher global emissions. There isn’t any virtue in Miliband’s opposition to the mine.

    • dave permalink
      February 9, 2021 8:44 am

      The opposition is a further tedious example of the deluded British chattering class
      (with its over representation of European, migrant, pseudo-intellectuals) and our politicians thinking their job is to make our weary little country “punch above its weight” – in this case by leading in the race* to the economic bottom, it seems!

      Even the PR guff of the mining company has to justify it as being “World Class” – whatever the hell that means for a hole in the ground.

      *The last time we led in a race was the Naval building-race with Germany, and the resulting wars ultimately destroyed both the British Empire and the progress of genuine civilization everywhere in the World.

  10. Andrew Argyle permalink
    February 8, 2021 7:39 pm

    You are right about Labour losing its working class base. The reason? Bourgeois policies like “tackling climate change”, from bourgeois politicians, Miliband being a prime example.

    UK climate policies are creating a vast underclass of poor people who can’t afford to keep their homes warm and are piling up debt owed to energy companies.

    Labour no longer represents the interests of working class and poor people or they would be demanding a different approach.

  11. Jackington permalink
    February 8, 2021 8:22 pm

    I wish Andrew Neil had a regular Sunday slot instead of the meek and mild Marr. That would be worth watching.

    • Devoncamel permalink
      February 8, 2021 8:34 pm

      I hope the forthcoming GB News channel doesn’t disappoint.

      • February 9, 2021 7:37 am

        The woke brigade are already trying to discredit GB News before it launches.

    • Vernon E permalink
      February 9, 2021 10:57 am

      Jackington.. You must be joking. Meek and mild Marr ain’t. He’s an unreconstructed Trotskyite who entire career has been based on “Gotcha” interviewing preferably to catch out tories. The very worst of the BBC.

  12. Devoncamel permalink
    February 8, 2021 8:33 pm

    Lawson was spot on with his ‘moral vanity’ observation. The self righteousness and utter stupidity of the net zero blob is breathtaking. As for Miliband, his type used to be packed off to the waste bin of failed politicians aka the European Commission.

  13. Paul Kolk permalink
    February 8, 2021 9:13 pm

    So like Tony Blair. A clone?? From the Dolly the sheep school.

  14. Penda100 permalink
    February 8, 2021 10:19 pm

    I read the article in the DM and some of the comments sent in. Some of these were frightening, showing closed minds who will never listen to any argument that doesn’t fit their preconceptions. One said you don’t need steel for wind turbines. I think it was our Paul asked him if the turbines could be made out of cardboard.

    • dennisambler permalink
      February 9, 2021 9:25 am

      Wood is the way forward, cut down more trees to save the environment.
      https://www.energylivenews.com/2020/05/01/sweden-launches-its-first-wooden-wind-power-tower/

      “Laminated wood is stronger than steel at the same weight and by building in modules, the wind turbines can be taller.

      “By building in wood, we also reduce carbon dioxide emissions in manufacturing and instead store carbon dioxide in the design.”

      Might be a problem if they had one of their frequent motor fires.

      OT slightly, Tom Heap is pushing a BBC app, 39 ways to save the environment

      • dennisambler permalink
        February 9, 2021 9:33 am

        Sorry, that is “Save the Planet”

  15. Cheshire Red permalink
    February 8, 2021 10:44 pm

    Miliband is a perfect example of why the UK is in such a mess.

    Parliament has become packed with loony activists like him, and they’re all emotionally incontinent basket cases.

    Yes that includes so-called ‘Conservatives’ too. The party is now a Lib Dem dripping wet basket case.

    Has anyone ever seen Green fanatics accept any reason or logic from another person?

    Rational thought just doesn’t enter their tiny brains, hence we have truly absurd and futile laws like his CC Act.

    Cost: trillions.
    Benefit: zero.

  16. Lorde Late permalink
    February 9, 2021 12:29 am

    I bet he has a huge diesel generator in his cellar next to one of his kitchens for when the lights go out.

  17. February 9, 2021 9:06 am

    Miliband had marbles to lose?

  18. February 9, 2021 9:24 am

    “Milliband Loses His Marbles”

    Which one? (I mean which Milliband of course.)

  19. Phoenix44 permalink
    February 9, 2021 9:45 am

    The whole thing is like some crazy parody. Most people working themselves up don’t know its coking coal and none seem to have bothered to think about reality. If the world produces more steel using coking coal then we will use more coking coal. Why not have it from the UK? If the world doesn’t increase consumption of coking coal then either UK coal will displace other coal or it won’t and so the coal won’t be used. Either way there’s no increase in coal use. So unless the new mine encourages additional coking coal use, which is unlikely, the mine will not change anything.

    Miliband and others just can’t bear the thought something they don’t like is happening. Little spoilt children stamping their feet again.

  20. Les Saunders permalink
    February 9, 2021 9:50 am

    His brother was even more demented:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/sep/07/david-miliband-global-warming-tour

  21. James Coupe permalink
    February 9, 2021 2:03 pm

    Champagne socialism at its very best!

  22. Dave Gardner permalink
    February 9, 2021 2:55 pm

    On Labour losing its working class base, I came to the conclusion that Labour had effectively become a modern liberal party under Tony Blair at the end of the 1990s. I’m using the term ‘modern liberal’ to distinguish from ‘classical liberal’. Modern liberals are also known as ‘metropolitan liberals’, ‘progressives’ and sometimes (sarcastically) as ‘illiberal liberals’.

    Tony Blair’s New Labour were virtually the same as the Lib Dems. After seeing Corbyn in action as leader, I would say the left wing faction of Labour MPs are modern liberals as well, but they are just doing the student version of modern liberalism, which is a sort of more loony version of it. There are probably no ‘Old Labour’ people left amongst the Labour MPs apart from Graham Stringer, who seems to be their only opponent of Greenery.

    I think what finally convinced me that Labour was now just a modern liberal party was in the 2016 EU Referendum, where they were arguing to stay in the EU to protect “workers’ rights”. A party which was founded in the first place to fight for workers’ rights had delegated that job to the EU, and was attributing all the progress in that area to the EU.

    When it comes to the Conservative parliamentary party, they suffer from the same problem of transforming into a modern liberal party as well, but it hasn’t happened to quite the same extent as Labour. The rot set in back in the 1960s, when a minor party which catered for the more liberal-oriented type of conservative called the “National Liberal Party” was allowed to merge with the Conservative party. That brought in Michael Heseltine as a Conservative MP (Heseltine used to stand as a candidate for the National Liberal party). Since then the number of Heseltine-type MPs has built up, and something like a third of Conservative MPs could be regarded as de facto Lib Dem MPs. I have regarded the Conservative parliamentary party for many years as just being a watered down version of the Lib Dems, it essentially does modern liberal stuff, but at a slower pace than the Lib Dems would.

  23. Rowland P permalink
    February 9, 2021 3:04 pm

    Yes, we’ve got to to set an example to the rest of the world – just like Colonel Nicholson in the “Bridge over the River Kwai” who determined that the British prisoners show how good they are in the building of the bridge only to realise what he has done before falling on the plunger to blow up the bridge; he utters “Oh my God, what have I done”?

  24. Micky R permalink
    February 9, 2021 5:34 pm

    Ed Miliband was responsible for “one member, one vote” for the Labour party leadership, which led to Corbyn and his manic cronies = Labour party unelectable.

  25. February 9, 2021 5:49 pm

    This from the Director-General Daily Mail; Miliband interview.

    In a debut speech, Mr. Tim Davie said: ‘If you want to be an opinionated columnist or a partisan campaigner on social media then that is a valid choice, but you should not be working at the BBC.’

    I wonder whether this applies to Harrabin

    I

    • February 9, 2021 10:19 pm

      We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
      (John F. Kennedy) Do you think he would be allowed to be a member of the Democratic Party nowadays?

  26. stevejay permalink
    February 10, 2021 4:08 pm

    “Madness to import coal”, yes but madness seems to be behind all the Government’s policies. With what is happening in the world, we need to be as self sufficient as possible.
    Boris seems to be antagonizing the property market, the building trade and now the farmers,
    all to meet the pointless zero carbon emissions target.

    • Brian Smith permalink
      February 10, 2021 4:28 pm

      It’s the same madness that stops us fracking leaving us dependent on unstable foreign countries for our gas needs and with a massive balance of trade payments deficit.

      Still, as long as we are green eh?

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